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Russian Missile Parts Found At MH17 Crash Site
An anonymous reader sends this report from the BBC: Fragments of a suspected Russian missile system have been found at the Flight MH17 crash site in Ukraine, investigators in the Netherlands say. They say the parts, possibly from a Buk surface-to-air system, are "of particular interest" and could help show who was behind the crash. But they say they have not proved their "causal connection" with the crash. ... Ukraine and many Western countries have accused pro-Russian rebels of shooting down the plane, saying they could have used a Buk missile system supplied by Russia. Russia and the rebels deny any responsibility and say the Ukrainian military was to blame.
Cue hordes of astroturfing Russian trolls in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1...
Literally no-one on this thread will be who they claim to be. Not even me.
I had a dream, bright and carefree, but now there's doubt and gravity
Probably similar to the consequences of someone in Den Haag tried to get a US serviceman to the International Criminal court. Remember that the US made a law to make it possible to invade the Netherlands if anyone from the US was attempted to be prosecuted there.
Oh, how many US people have been prosecuted for torturing people in Europe again? What's that ? No one ?
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" It's as if the they've learned nothing over the last 100 years since the coup."
They haven't. A lot of russians have an even more bunker cut of from the world mentality than a mid west survivilist. Most of the last part of the 20th century has passed them by, never mind the 21st. They're still in denial about their place in the world - sure , they're a superpower , but only because of some aging nuclear weapons. Their conventional military is worn out and their economy is in the toilet even with the oil and gas.
Well the French government decided to cancel the delivery of 2 "Mistral" battleships that Russia had ordered. This was a way of condemning the role that Russia played in Ukraine. The result: a huge cancellation fee will be payed to Russia and now France must find new buyers for the 2 ships. It leaves you wondering who the sanction was really against ...
It seems that the story about two attack jets shadowing the airliner may be red herrings.
As was overwhelmingly obvious at the time.
So, at this point in time, the most important question is, "Which Buc missiles, precisely, were used to down the aircraft?"
If it was a model from the '70's or '80's then we blame Porkochenko and Ukraine.
If it is a modern, up-to-date model, the Putin bites the big green weenie. They haven't sold any new model missiles to Ukraine, or any of the other former client nations.
Even if it were old Buks Putin's still the main suspect. The idea Putin loaded up the rebels with old Soviet equipment that looks like stuff taken from Ukrainian bases is hardly implausible, I think the rebels were even claiming to have taken their Buks from Ukrainian bases!
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