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The LibreOffice Story

An anonymous reader writes: Jono Bacon in his latest column writes about the story of LibreOffice and how it rose out of the ashes of StarOffice and OpenOffice.org. Bacon also touches on why he feels LibreOffice is such a key piece of Open Source for communities across the world. Jono says: "To look at LibreOffice today and compare it to Microsoft Office can be tempting. Sure, LibreOffice does not provide the same level of features and finesse Microsoft's suite may boast, but when I think of the before and after vanity shots of the suite back in 1999 and today, what the community has accomplished is phenomenal. Developing LibreOffice has been hard, technically challenging, and at times demotivating work, and contributors' efforts can be seen by millions of users across the world."

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  1. LibreOffice didn't rise from the ashes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    LibreOffice was forked from OpenOffice over a licensing dispute several years ago. It didn't rise from the ashes. StarOffice was around until 2010 until getting merged into Oracle OpenOffice, which lives on in Apache OpenOffice? Confused yet? The project would probably be farther along if there was simply one branch of development and not so many forks.

    1. Re:LibreOffice didn't rise from the ashes by Kobun · · Score: 4, Informative
      I disagree about your reframing of #4 - Oracle sat in silence far after Libreoffice was created, and it was longer still until Apache had the new project up and running. Let's come back to that in a little bit, however.

      Let's discuss licensing.
      • OpenOffice.org was dual-licensed, with the world at large caring about the LGPL v3. The final release with this code was on 25 January 2011.
      • LibreOffice is licensed under the LGPL v3. Its initial release was also on 25 January 2011.
      • Apache OpenOffice is under the Apache License v2. Initial release was 8 May 2012.

      LibreOffice is under exactly the same license as OpenOffice.Org was - it defies logic to maintain that LibreOffice broke away from OpenOffice.org because of the license, and then kept that exact same license.

      Consensus is that, after Oracle's purchase of Sun in 2010, OpenOffice.org was likely to be axed. Oracle showed little to no interest in it, and said even less. LibreOffice had nearly a half-year of uncontested mind-share before Oracle finally axed their paid developers and dumped the remains of OpenOffice on the Apache foundation for resurrection (re-licensing it in the process) in what was widely seen an attempt to save face. And it still took almost another year after that for the first release, due to the Apache re-licensing (which came well after the decision to create TDF).

      Wikipedia is extensively sourced here. Perhaps it would be better to point out the specific pieces you feel are wrong?
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  2. Re:My parents and software. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Assuming they are on Windows then MS Office 365 Home was what you likely should have recommended. $99 per year, up to 5 PCs and 5 phone/tablets and up to 5 users each of whom get a TB of space on OneDrive. Then you don't have to fiddle around with backup drives and taking them offsite or getting carbonite subscriptions for each of them, etc. Show them how to put their data into the OneDrive folder and let it sync and you are done. Next time they want to rebuild a machine or the drive crashes all their data comes back magically.

  3. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by BadDreamer · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is one crucial feature that isn't covered perfectly: absolute compatibility with MS Office.

    Not even MS Office has that, and that doesn't seem to matter. No, that is not where the problem lies. The compatibility only has to be good enough, and for pretty much everything it is.

    Quite often it is even better than MS Office. I have used Libre Office to rescue documents which MS Office stopped loading because something broke in them. And that did not sway people enough to even make them try out Libre Office. Compatibility is a non-issue. It's all inertia.

  4. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    No. The compatibility is *not* "good enough" for "pretty much everything". I can (and do) see breakages in just about every document I ever try to convert.

    For instance, look at the indentation of bullet point items. This isn't hard, the rule is perfectly simple. Yet to this day, LibreOffice can't correctly convert from a document saved in MS Word.

    Or headers and footers. The spacing is screwed up, and sometimes the fonts change for no reason. The same thing sometimes happens with styles. Unless you stick with the default fonts, it seems LibreOffice just doesn't care.

    These are not obscure, edge-case, one-in-a-million features. I use them in pretty much every document I produce, and so do lots of other people I know.