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Wikipedia Founder Jimmy Wales Is Now Chairing Lessig's Presidential Bid
Funksaw sends a followup to Tuesday's news that Lawrence Lessig is pondering a presidential campaign: Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales is now chairing the committee for Lessig's campaign. Wales said, "Larry's run for President is different. He's crowdfunding his campaign instead of seeking out rich donors. He's showing people that we can change the rigged political system. ... The Internet community came together to fight back against SOPA and we were successful. Now we’re behind Lessig to fight for citizen equality." Lessig's goal is to raise a million dollars by September 7, and they're already at roughly $300,000. Relatedly, Newsweek had a brief interview with Lessig over his potential campaign, and Eric Posner wrote an insightful piece about it at Slate.
Rand Paul and Ron Paul are the only voices of reason in American politics.
Nice of them to split the left vote.
headline says it all
...Of all the bullshit, fake wiki articles that will appear that all the Kool Aid drinkers from the DailKOS and Democrat Underground will lap up without question.
along with Wikimedia Foundation, every time a google search hit (which is invariably in the top five entries) takes someone to a wikipedia entry.
That's a match for the Koch Brothers' $900 million right there.
Why is /. giving this guy so much news space? Isn't this place news for nerds? Something has to be going on in the STEM world. Sure he created CC and some CS law stuff. I guess there is some nerd news links, however not enough for 2 articles in 2 days... Seriously, Vermin Supreme is going to get more votes than this guy. So please refund me for the bandwidth and electric I wasted pulling up and replying to this article. Off to go check arstechia for some computer news.
Jimbo needs to fix Wikipedia first by grtting rid of abusive admins and deletionists.
Any candidate that has a poll on their "plan" page that even entertains the notion of Jon Stewart and Neil Degrasse Tyson for VP has already convinced me to stop listening.
for doing a trick. Donald will toss him a million if he barks like a dog? For two million, eat his own shit? For THREE million, lick himself? For FIVE million, all the above plus pee in his own house. Easy money. I'd do it.
It's the Campaign Platform Anyone can Edit!
... they aren't going to win. They are wasting time and resources trying to fix the government when the public is so stupid and easily manipulated. They don't know what science has discovered about the human brain, you should all watch the below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ
Something about censoring certain methods of political campaigning? I can't quite remember how it goes...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
If I'm going to support a candidate for the job of POTUS I expect them to get elected and then do the f***ing job for at least four years.
If he says he will be a one term president up front I then applaud him for that. But getting elected so he can resign makes no sense.
Go back to academia where you can play what if. We need a real POTUS committed to the job of running the country.
... "crowd funding" in politics is ancient. And I'd point out that most crowdfunding systems have no problem with rich donors. Go to kickstarter... scroll down... they've got prizes for people that give 10k. Generally involves people going to some stupid party with the developer or them inserting you into their work or something.
There's nothing new about Larry's campaign. Guy that founded Wikipedia likes him? Okay... that's interesting sort of... but the crowdfunding argument? I'm not such a low information voter that that doesn't pass the smell test.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
If he has only one bill he wants to pass, and then resign, that doesn't seem like much of a vision to me. The country can't be "fixed" by changing one law. I'd rather elect somebody who has a vision with a bit more scope.
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Better yet, they can form a political party made up of all the biggest Internet personalities. Of course, with how uncivil the Internet is, it'd certainly be dysfunctional. Therefore, they should call it the Lemon Party.
Wikipedia pages are rarely balanced, I noticed. Now, I understand why.
I'm going to invent this great thing... but this guy with the beard and dedication will fix all the bugs for you. Sounds like Jobs and W all over again.
...that contributors will have their contributions blocked or reversed at the behest of vindictive campaign insiders without explanation or appeal in order to stroke the insiders' petty egos?
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http://www.lawrenceperson.com/
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Jeez, this is like reading Xinhua News. Just a collective ignoring of the fact that all these people are on the far left of politics, and instead pretending that "the internet community" is some sort of monolithic bloc that supports this. SOPA wasn't a divisive issue, it was something everyone could get behind. But come on, simply presenting statements like "Now we're behind Lessig to fight for citizen equality" with no context? Look at how it assumes the sale and doesn't give anyone the chance to raise objections. If you're not for these hard-leftists, you must be against citizen equality. Man, I feel really despicable being against citizen equality.
If you read a lot of Xinhua like I do, this is a common occurrence. They will simply ignore important context and call everyone to action. The obvious questions that everyone sitting at home is asking? Unanswered. In Xinhua's defense, they regularly receive instructions from the Communist Party instructing them to leave important information out of their stories. Western journalists are under no such oppressive restrictions and deliberately do such things of their own free will. Which system is worse?
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Lessig wants Proportional Representation via his Citizen Equality Act and ranked choice voting system.
If he manages to achieve that for the USA then it will be a huge historical leap forward.
It will mean the introduction of democracy to the USA - long overdue.
work in progress
They want to elect a 'reform' president who will serve only long enough to turn it over to a "biz-as-usual" VP from their same party and who were pigs sucking at the public swill they now seek to reform, just like the other party. Delusional idiots. Usefull idiots to the demokrats perhaps.
I nominate Bennet Hasselton for president. He's the president we deserve, but not the one we need. Imagine the 400 page state of the union address he would write every year.
"INSERT NAME HERE"'s run for President is different".
No. He's a politician. The only difference is the tie or the shoes. Or both.
Lessig 1.0 believed in freedom of information. Lessig 2.0 believes in one half of the two party system, and also that the government that currently screws us will save us.
Obama wanted to change the game, when he came into office he got told what the game and the stakes were, and now he is of a different conviction and has agreed to play the game, as can be seen from him adopting the politics he campaigned against. Why do you think Lessig, or anyone else, would be different?
There is no chance of democracy in America under the current system. Corruption is effectively legal, and the whole system is corrupt. I can't think of a worse political system in any country on earth.
One of Wikipedia's primary goals is that its articles have a neutral point of view. Jimmy Wales is the co-founder of Wikipedia and a board member of the Wikimedia Foundation. The latter is responsible for raising money for Wikipedia. Generally speaking, candidates for political office resign their positions as commentators for news networks so there's not a conflict of interest. That conflict of interest would exist both for the candidate and the network. The candidate would influence his or her own campaign by providing political commentary, which is a conflict of interest. The network also would have a conflict of interest because they couldn't report fairly on the campaign of one or their commentators or any competing candidates in that race. Commentators don't maintain a neutral point of view, but it's still a conflict of interest that is best for all parties to avoid. While it's not precisely the same situation, it seems like a conflict of interest for the Wikimedia Foundation. They raise funds for a number of sites including Wikipedia and Wikinews, both of which attempt to maintain a neutral point of view in their articles. It's a conflict of interest for the Wikimedia Foundation when the sites they fund expect to maintain a neutral point of view but one of their board members is actively involved with a political campaign. I question whether they would deserve to maintain their status as a tax exempt organization in that situation.
Lessig is a fanatic by Churchill's definition: he can't change his mind and won't change the subject. That alone makes him unfit to be President. That he's a raving left-wing kook is just icing on the cake.
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Trump is selling low taxes, greatness deserved by lethargic individuals for simply having been squeezed from a vagina in such a manor as to qualify for US citizenship, and of course hate and fear.
Lets be honest, wasting time and money to beat Trump is futile. You simply can't prevail over stupid.
Oh... I feel with absolute certainty that Trump is the optimal representative of the vast majority of the American people. I will actually register to vote for the first time and vote for him. I hate his guts, I believe he's dangerous, I dread everything about him... but I believe he is very likely the huge kick in the ass America needs to finally understand that America needs an overhaul.
Oh... I also like GWB quite a bit and think he deserves either Jeb or Trump to win so he won't be considered the worst president since LBJ
Ron could raise a million dollars in a weekend, and he did it 25.00 to 50.00 at a time. That's called real grass roots.
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I spent the past two years pointing out that if you're trying to convince someone you're nonpartisan, you shouldn't name your PAC after a communist holiday. Or rail against how money from big corporations is distorting the political system because they give most of their money to one side. (In practice, big business needs to be friends with whoever's in power, so they give money to both sides roughly evenly.) Or rail against money from big corporations, while other big special interest money (i.e. from labor unions), which is actually donated one-sidedly.
Now that he's running for the Democratic Party's nomination... NOW can we agree that he's a leftist and his PAC was leftist?
In order for America to break the two party mess it has split into, it will be necessary for people, liberal and conservative to 'give up' a few elections in order to get their candidates onto the ballots for at least two elections so they can recieve federal campaign funding and mindshare necessary to make their 2nd or 3rd presidential bid a success.
But everybody liberal or conservative prefers to tell you that is silly or insane and sticks to their small pictures rather than looking at the changes and sacrifices that have to be made to ensure the system will change, even if it is not TODAY.
If you give any money to them you will be put on a watchlist, lose your job and your home, and your loved ones will suffer the consequences of your folly.
Please read:
A personal appeal from Jimmy Wales.
Please give our campaign some money or else we'll use your Wikipedia donations (aka my money) instead.
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The trouble with trying to keep money out of politics is that money is very powerful so has a strong motivation to find its way around whatever obstructions you put up. So the fix isn't to put up stronger gates, it's to reduce the incentive by making that money less powerful.
Donors dominate because individual legislators have a lot of autonomy and are easy to push around. But if you take away the legislator's autonomy by strictly enforcing party discipline then they're a much less tempting target and they have less liability for "you voted for X" style ads.
Make it into a Parliamentary systems where the house leaders aren't just wrangling cats, they're actually telling their members how to vote on important issues. Sure it sounds authoritarian but it's a lot more accountable because when a bill passes (or doesn't) everybody knows who to hold accountable.
You don't even need to change the constitution, it's just a change in the legislative traditions.
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Donations to Wikimedia Foundation are tax deductible. Donations to a political action committee are not. So if Jimbo wants to use Wikimedia's donation drives for politics, it's going to have to make a separate entity to receive political dollars. It's the same reason that NORML is two different companies.
Anyone see the hypocrisy of a politician who wants to restore an elective democratic government, so that it can champion gun-control laws and climate remediation, hiring an avowed anti-government, pro-gun Libertarian to rattle the cup for the politician? There will certainly be thousands of nitwits duped into giving money to this campaign, but the majority of observers will see it for what it is -- a fundraising drive for the personal aggrandizement of Lessig and Wales, which is *disguised* as a political movement.