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Lightning Wipes Storage Disks At Google Data Center
An anonymous reader writes: Lightning struck a Google data center in Belgium four times in rapid succession last week, permanently erasing a small amount of users' data from the cloud. The affected disks were part of Google Computer Engine (GCE), a utility that lets people run virtual computers in the cloud on Google's servers. Despite the uncontrollable nature of the incident, Google has accepted full responsibility for the blackout and promises to upgrade its data center storage hardware, increasing its resilience against power outages.
Permanently erased? How can this be? Doesn't Google keep an off-site backup of my pr0n on tape or DVDs or sumpthin? So much for best practices, I guess.
So Google doesn't distribute my data geographically?? I have been mislead.
Which PaaS provider distributes geographically, if any?
Thanks.
Lightning struck the same place not twice, but four times?
Google is always wider than deep.
If you don't build your data center to be totally safe from lightning strike, it is your fault. What is this rubbish about uncontrollable nature and taking responsibility? This is just plain negligence.
... Alphabet's new "personal re-vivification" project is making good progress. The project leader, V.Frankenstein was unavailable for comment however.
Morans.
You mean to tell me users data is stored in a SINGLE DC and not redundant elsewhere?
I find that easy to believe for most "cloud" providers but google? Really?
Ummmmmmmm?
So presumably if someone took out the right, big big DC in a huge fasion, many users would be fucked by it?
n/t
who where what when now?
If you RTFA you'll see they mention it only affected "recently written data" that had not yet made it to persistent storage. So probably only a few hours old at most.
GCE is not a backup solution.
Google cloud data is geographically replicated.
Probably from the Church of the Broken God...
That comes to 4.84 Jiggawatts! No wonder there was outage.
But google said that that it "....replicates data three times for redundancy. It can afford to be cavalier about hardware failures. So a drive fails. Log it, switch queries on that data to a replica and move on. It's all pretty instant".
Thats no excuse. It should be distributed amongst seperate machines in seperate centres instantaniously.
You forgot to post anonymously, TheHaikuLover. Now we know who's been posting all this shit here in the past few months.
Google will have to accept full responsibility for bringing those data centers back to American soil.
Thats no excuse. It should be distributed amongst seperate machines in seperate centres instantaniously.
So faster than the speed of light using the infinitely-wide infinite improbability data bus?
Some privacy policy Slashdot.
And a mad scientist with a cobbled together corpse.
If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
You'll be sick of hearing it soon... just like the bullshit word 'sustainability'...
All part of the Jews' plan to totally destroy the West.
Germany to take 800,000 'asylum seekers' over the next year. What joy. How 'democratic'.
Sheep joke
Nuf said.
That's not what "full responsibility" means. Accepting full responsibility would mean replacing any lost data with replacement data of equal value* to the dataholder, or with equivalent monetary compensation.
*Those who have other backups and haven't lost data, would, of course be entitled to no compensation, as other than some unwanted downtime, no costs were incurred.
*Those whose data was not valuable would also be entitled to no compensation.
*Those whose data was valuable, but should have known better than to store it in the cloud with no backup, are guilty of negligence, and are also entitled not only to no compensation, but, in some cases, are also entitled to spend some time in jail.
Moooooo *twitch* moo moo moo *twitch* *thud*
location location location ... all data should be replicated in at least THREE locations around the world.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
hours to replicate data? why so long? are they still running __________? (insert your most hated system/language)
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Come on people. This has the potential to be legend... ary. What a complete failure.
Even just form a quick punt we could glimpse such lyrical word play as:
"Lightning strike inside Cloud"
"Cloud damaged by lightning"
"Cloud not lightning-proof"
Please read the fucking Register until you gets it.
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Even Google doesn't have unlimited bandwidth.
This is why you need offsite backups, preferably on hardware under your own direct control.
*GUFFAW*
You're wasted here, you should do stand up.
According to posting history, this is the only thing the account has posted. Repeatedly.
You mean The Cloud needs actual hardware to run?! That can't be right.
How about learning to meme?
http://ct.weirdnutdaily.com/ol...
Fool.
At least his user name is appropriate...
That's why you don't put things in the cloud, put them in the aether.
Thats no excuse. It should be distributed amongst seperate machines in seperate centres instantaniously.
You can have that services if you want to pay for it. You get that, right?
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
'What, like with a cloth or something?"
The telco's have quite a bit of history in protecting from it.
They had a hard problem with all that outside copper entering the CO's.
Now days with fiber, much easier, but still non-trivial.
Sound like big G has a few lessons to learn about routing fault currents.
I wonder if they have a published mitigation strategy?
...is now requiring all of her email servers be hosted by Google.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
meme
noun \mm\
Definition of MEME
: an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture
You can't "meme", Moran.
it was the NSA or CCHQ what better way to cover stealing the information than making people blieve it was wiped?
Despite the uncontrollable nature of the incident, Google has accepted full responsibility for the blackout and promises to upgrade its data center storage hardware, increasing its resilience against power outages.
If it is uncontrollable, then any changes Google makes won't matter. On the other hand, if using other equipment, hardening the system, installing better grounding, etc. would have kept the loss from happening, then it is controllable. Maybe what they meant to say was unpredictable. Of course, then they would have had to explain why they didn't plan for the possibility.
Wait...
Are you saying Google users lost their data from the cloud due to lightning?
Whoever scripts your reality down there is the most inept of hacks.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Yes. We were low on unobtanium, hence running on batteries.
Thats no excuse. It should be distributed amongst seperate machines in seperate centres instantaniously.
Wow, it's just not possible to keep people like you happy, is it?
The customer explicitly and directly specifies NOT to distribute their data outside of the single data center, and you bitch and moan that when that single data center goes down they lose data.
The customer explicitly and directly specifies NOT to distribute their data outside of the single data center, and Google does so anyway to meet your current seconds demand, and you will bitch and moan that Google doesn't honor user demands when explicitly made.
Then you wonder why no company wants you as a customer!
Around here, there is a guy that runs for sheriff (never really cared if he won) named Moran, it is entirely possible that the poster is a joke.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
All his signs say "Moran for sheriff", I always read it as Moron for sheriff and wondered why anyone would vote for a moron for sheriff.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
If I understand this correctly, to get your personal data removed from Google search engines it requires 4 lightning strikes to the exact same location?
Must have missed that part in the EULA...
[I know I shouldn't do this here, but I've got a serious question.]
Google's announcement about the damage includes the statement that "less than 0.000001% of PD space in europe-west1-b" was irrecoverably lost (PD is "persistent disk"). That's a very small fraction (~1GB out of 100PB, for those of us who commonly think in terms of storage size), but it obscures the actual number.
[Here goes...get ready...prepare yourself...a serious question]
Does anyone know the actual storage capacity for GCE in europe-west1-b?
[OK, done, now we can resume rampant speculation and juvenile gossip]
Of course, loosing a small number of bytes may correspond to a much larger amount of data loss...if, for example, a few bytes of the encrypted Snowden archives or compressed Ashley Madison dump got flipped, the whole data set would be lost.
come ON, google eyes... slack-writing disks is always a danger. you don't have generator backup for the battery backup, and you're slopping data all over the floor as a result?
losers.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
and all data flushed to disk, and resources examined, before they opened for input again.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
The electricity hit 4 times in rapid succession? The planet actually felt the presence of the localized power in the googleplex, such that the voltage struck there to 'equalize' the potential between it an the atmosphere? Cue random sci-fi electric jacob's ladder effects over all the blade runner landscapes..
at some point in your life, have you ever listened to AM radio or broadcast television? their stuff gets hit with lightning all the time. if a really good thunderstorm happens to float over their tower, AM radio tends to sound like "Weather Desk Radar shows the //SPLATbzzHummm// county, with //SPLATbzzHummm// t's the latest repor //SPLATbzzHummm//" with the transmitter knocked off the air every few seconds by a direct hit. in NTSC television, the return would be about 3-4 seconds of variable contrast and variable quality sound all over the place.
many are the films and photos of multiple lightning hits on the Empire State Building, because it's tall enough and prominent enough that folks single it out for their photo assignments.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
you left out about 99-44/100 percent of the technology and art of lightning protection.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
if it's yours, I could give a shit.
if it's mine, it's war.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
You're wasted here, you should do stand up.
And get hit by lightning?
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There's a Senator, and Representative by the same name. Speaks volumes for Congress.
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they have a copy
Novelty accounts: not just for reddit!
AC possibly works for Amazon, could even be Jeff.
Well that what Google gets for building a data center at the top of castle Frankenstein.
the lightning wiped my data.