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Finland Considers Minimum Income To Reform Welfare System

jones_supa writes: The Finnish government is considering a pilot project that would see the state pay people a basic income regardless of whether they are employed or not. The details of how much the basic income might be and who would be eligible for it are yet to be announced, but already there is widespread interest in how it might work. Prime Minister Juha Sipilä has praised the idea, and he sees it as a way to simplify the social security system. With unemployment being an increasing concern, four out of five Finns are now in favour of a basic income. Sipilä has expressed support for a limited, geographical experiment, just like Dutch city of Utrecht is executing this autumn.

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  1. Communism doesn't work by Billly+Gates · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    We tried this in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe and ended up with 10 year waiting lists for cars.

    Just don't be surprised when no one serves you latte and breakfast on the way to work. After all why should someone wake up at 4:30 am and bust their butts when they could be still be being paid sleeping in and watching TV for the rest of the day

  2. Re:4/5 in favor by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It looks good on paper. Until the working folk stop working, and nobody is left to pay for the bill. The number of people who flat out quit, will skyrocket, leaving the few that have ambition left holding the tax bag as the nation collapses under its own foolishness. Socialism never works out quite the way the designers think, because human nature isn't what they believe it to be.

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  3. A country sized face palm event. by Charcharodon · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    If you are going to have a retard theft based (taxes) welfare system the best way to do it is just give everyone a check and get rid of 99% of the bureaucrats needed to run it.

    That being said what a fucking STUPID idea. Its hard enough to get people to get off their ass and work now, and you are going to treat adults like spoiled children by giving them an allowance expecting nothing in return?!

    Here is a crazy idea if you don't work, you don't eat. Want a basic living allowance? Then you need to work 40 hours a week at a job, any job. There is trash that needs to be picked up on the side of the road and public toilets everywhere that need to be scrubbed.

    I personally see nothing wrong with letting people suffer as a form of motivation. A friend's dad had a saying that makes perfect sense to me now in my old age.

    "You do kick a man when he is down. It gives him motivation to get back up."

    It's insane to think giving money and benefits to a person sitting on their ass things will get them to get going again. It's very comfortable sitting on your ass, even when it is on the ground.