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Hyperloop Getting Closer To Reality, Groundbreaking Set For 2016
An anonymous reader writes: On Thursday, Hyperloop Transportation Technologies (HTT) said it would break ground on the futuristic railway in May 2016. The company says it has signed agreements with Oerlikon Leybold Vacuum and engineering design firm Aecom to work on the project. "It's a validation of the fact that our model works," says Dirk Ahlborn, CEO of Hyperloop Transportation Technologies. "It's the next step."
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So what happens when the capsule springs a leak and you cannot bre . .a..
I had to read fairly far through the article to realize it's just a prototype. It will be about 5 miles long, built in central California, along highway 5.
The company that's building it worked on tricky projects before, like the LHC. They seem confident in their ability to build it, they said that the hard part is reducing costs and energy usage to acceptable levels.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
So, of the two possible viable corridors for this...BoWash, or SF-LA....which one will have the Environmental Impact Study finished first?
Then which one will be able to navigate the years of cease and desist lawsuits first?
Except that no gov money is going into this. In addition, all of musk ventures makes America stronger, while you, attached to kock bros pants, continue to destroy America.
Yeah, America never develops anything.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
I guess I feel like people felt when the train, car and airplane first came out. The hyperloop (like those earlier inventions) sounds like a wonderful idea, but it's a little dangerous. I want to ride on one eventually, but not on the first few runs. Let them work out any early problems with other, more daring riders.
I can't wait for teleportation prototype to be next or at least hypersonic passenger plane.
Somehow, the same concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... But only the propulsion system is encased in vacuum-like conditions. Very nice idea, embedded safe "devices" for when the system goes down. The hyperloop ideia is not that new, only that now instead of encasing only the propulsion system hyperloop encases the whole vehicle.
It remains to be seen how this will pan out, but having these two companies sign on makes it more likely than ever that the future of transportation may not be autonomous vehicles or supersonic jets, but capsules flying through vacuum tubes.
Hyper loops, autonomous vehicles or supersonic jets and supersonic jets have different uses. If I am commuting to work or going camping I am probably not going to use a hyper loop or a supersonic jet. If I am travelling to an island a fair distance away I am probably not going to use a hyper loop or an autonomous vehicle. All three modes of transport will probably be useful in the future.
They can Hype the HyperLoop with HooperFlies!
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> f I am commuting to work or going camping I am probably not going to use a hyper loop
I don't know, an hour commute from LA to SF via hyper loop is less than the time a lot of people spend commuting today, and you don't have to pay attention to the road.
you don't even need the LA-SF to make it a win.
Build a 20-30 mile one that terminates near the Google Campus (a lot of other tech companies are close by) and down south of San Jose and you could cut an hour+ off of a LOT of people's commute
Whether it's Republicans or Democrats who are to blame for whatever your pet cause might be, all of the money given to Tesla, Solyndra, green energy, whatever is a rounding error on the balance sheet of the defense budget. The USoA has wasted at least $5 TRILLION dollars since the end of the Vietnam War.
Now try adjusting that for inflation to see an even more shocking number.
And that's just Defense.
That five mile section should work nicely until an earthquake.
Not with the Republicans in charge.
NASA can't have all the (hidden) glory!
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
Yes -- but *terrorists* don't discriminate between D babies and R babies. Or wives. More money to the TSA to protect us, and more money to big oil to free us!
So what happens when the capsule springs a leak and you cannot bre . .a..
I think it is long past time someone addressed the problem of evacuation seriously.
The passenger mask aboard an aircraft has a ten minute supply of oxygen. The Time of Useful Consciousness (TUC) in a near-vacuum is measured in seconds. Oxygen Use in Aviation
Death comes quickly.
As originally conceived, a Hyperloop capsule would pack in 28 people in a space about four feet wide and four feet tall. Beyond the hype of Hyperloop: An analysis of Elon Musk's proposed transit system
It would be difficult to imagine a space more claustrophobic and an invitation to panic and offering less room for maneuver this side of the Hunley .
Musk has so far received more than 5 billion in government money. His 'ventures' without the government money and know-how produced nothing. Tesla made their fist car after they got a DoE loan, SpaceX started to build rockets after the Nasa contracts and so on. Musk is, basically, a very successful con artist. When he loses a bit more of his hair he'll be just like your favorite presidential candidate.
Hyperloop Getting Closer To Reality, Groundbreaking Set For 2016
Sounds like a Canadian Indie band who are taking things in a new direction next year.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Kind of surprised because of not seeing a single comment mentioning the recent SpaceX accident (+ delay in finding the problems + not too convincing problem reports). Not implying that Elon's companies are likely to deliver faulty technology, but that building extremely complex (transportation) systems is so difficult that cannot be mastered even after years of experience.
Hyperloop involves lots of never-tested-before features and is addressed to normal people (not to trained astronauts, perfectly aware of the risks). According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop), it is expected to have an average speed of 962 km/h (and a top one of 1220 km/h), like a plane at the ground level! And it would run across (densely) populated areas! What could possibly go wrong?
Custom Solvers 2.0 = Alvaro Carballo Garcia = varocarbas.
"If the cabin air leaks out of a plane at 13,000m, you'll be dead in 6 minutes."
Err , no. Some people will be dead in 6 minutes. Others won't as plenty of stowaways who survived in the non pressurised wheel compartments of passenger jets have shown.
"and the air leaked out of your spaceship, you'd be dead in six minutes"
Depends how fast. If it was more or less instantanious you'd be dead in seconds from your lungs imploding and other massive internal organ damage and internal bleeding.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop), it is expected to have an average speed of 962 km/h (and a top one of 1220 km/h), like a plane at the ground level! And it would run across (densely) populated areas! What could possibly go wrong?
Compare that to a jet plane, and then STFU, FUD troll.
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The benefit of freight is that there's far less danger and far lower insurance liability. Hyperloop could pull trucks off the roads, from Seattle to San Diego and from NYC to Boston. Think of the greenhouse gases we'll save.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
That would have worked just as well the other direction, that might be a clue to you that you are a partisan moron.
Not with the Democrats in charge.
You will notice that when Obama had the white house, and the Democrats had both houses of congress, nothing much got done either.
In fact, it took them losing the house before even passing the ACA, which they did after the voters had already spoken on what they wanted.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Enough that parachutes work to a certain degree and are used fro probe landings.
Enough that you have to some sort of heat-sheilding on probe entry.
Not enough to breath. Almost all carbon dioxide anyways.
Not enough to block solar radiation. Astronauts would fry in a large solar storm.
Being at near ground level gives some options an aircraft doesn't have.
Plenty of air is centimeters away. The only trick is to get to it. Assuming the capsule is intact, and can come to a rest in the 10 minutes emergency air lasts, you just need a way to open a hole to the outside. Just pump all the air you need until rescue arrives.
If cabin pressure is normal, the easiest would be to have a hollow lance pierce the tube. It would take some work to jab though ~1cm of steel. Might as well use a pair of carbide tip lances (with side holes) jabbing at opposite sides of the tube fr counterpressure. An overcenter system (like a car scissor jack when fully extended) can apply massive force. Pop, pop, you have air in and air out.
If the cabin breached, the entire tube needs to be filled. Time to get out something with high energy. A cutting device (friction wheel, cutting torch, etc) can get the job done, but slowly. Faster and more compact would be some thermite charges. Toss 'em fore and aft. Crude, but effective. Shape charge if you are crazy enough.
Or if you want really fast, and independent of the capsule, put vents on the tube. They can be as simple as butterfly valves or as dramatic as explosive bolt hatches. Butterfly valves have the advantage of using inrushing air to slow or move a capsule. Hatches give a way for people to get in and out of tubes for emergencies or maintenance.
The world is made by those who show up for the job.
actually, during the first 2 years, O and the dems brought back America's economy and kept us from moving into a depression worse than the Great Depression.
In addition, ACA was done during the first 2 years of O time which is when they had control of CONgress and ACA was considered halfway decent solution. Even now, less than 1/3 want ACA gone (and that is pretty much the GOP), 2/3 want it tweaked or to move to single payer system.
However, I would argue that the dems really have not done anything innovative.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Mostly because of a little thing called a filibuster and the fact that the Republicans decided, on the night of Obama's inauguration to block him at every turn.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/...
And don't try to play the "supermajority" card before reading the following
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-ma...
I don't mind the Hyperloop as long as they don't make that spooky HYPER CUBE!!!!!!!