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Two US Marines Foil Terrorist Attack On Train In France
hcs_$reboot writes: A heavily armed gunman opened fire aboard a packed high-speed train traveling from Amsterdam to Paris late Friday afternoon, wounding several passengers before he was tackled and subdued by two Americans Marines. The assault was described as a terrorist attack. President Barack Obama has expressed his gratitude for the "courage and quick thinking" of the passengers on a high-speed train in France, including U.S. service members, who overpowered the gunman. Bernard Cazeneuve, the French interior minister, paid tribute to the Marines as he arrived at the scene, and said "Thanks to them we have averted a drama. The Americans were particularly courageous and showed extreme bravery in extremely difficult circumstances."
The NRA goes off the deep end with propaganda because their opponents think a black stock makes a firearm more dangerous.
Gun control loonies have only themselves to blame for the NRA's present insanity.
A lot of truth in that. Handing untrained people a gun is a good way to have a mess. It takes a lot of training to teach a person to handle a gun in a crisis situation. Most people get excited and snatch the trigger spraying bullets around and hitting everything except what they're aiming at. It's amazing how many shots get fired with no one getting hit. This video is a good example, lots of shots and no one hit. All at almost point blank range too.
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Good to know. I bet the Marines wish they could claim these guys. Reading more, they apparently spotted the guy acting suspiciously as he went to the bathroom, then heard the sounds of the clips being loaded. Amazingly heads-up. The perp apparently had 300 rounds in total. This could have been a major bloodbath.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
In onion layer security, the outermost layer is always the most available, and always has the most potential attack vectors. So, you just pushed the attacker away from the large shiny metal things to which these assholes seem to be attracted, and instead into the bigger, probably harder to effectively secure lobby where people congregate to go through metal detectors. Practical changes? None. Zippo. Nil. Nada.
Until one or more of these conditions is met, nothing will change:
a) we develop some technology to deal with the threats from a safe distance. Said technology will likely be able to be used for, or chiefly function through violating your rights in one way or another, and/or violating your body in one way or another.
b) we all get fed up with the principal actors in these terrorist plots, collectively go crusades 2.0 on their backwards asses and forcibly drag their sorry excuse for a culture out of the bronze age.
c) terrorism no longer is an effective political and economic tool
d) their goals having been achieved through use of a clever combination of white guilt, uncontrolled illegal emigration, and higher birth rate, Sharia law is instituted in the New European Caliphates; political violence is no longer necessary.
I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine which is the most desirable, and which is the most likely of those events to occur.
And yet the NRA thinks that the "average person" with a firearm is the solution to the problem.
Do you think one of the marines (in critical condition) would have been shot in the neck if he had been armed himself? Would even any other civilians had been shot when the first shots fired were from someone trained not to hit people if needed vs. someone trying to hit anyone?
It's absurd to say this shows you can always do without a gun when two marines in the prime of their life take out a gunman they know is exiting from a very small space.
What if you are not two cut marines and there's a guy with a gun who just swings around a corner? What if you are a woman alone and there's someone with a knife telling you to strip your clothes off? What if you are home alone and three guys bust the door open wide and storm inside your house? There are a lot of situations where a gun is much better than most other things, including being unarmed - and the very case you claim is proof of how you "don't need guns" is one of them.
The whole good guy with a gun bullshit you argue here falls apart in one hell of a hurry in the real world. IN THE REAL world the guy busting into a room has the gun at the ready and guess what sucker? HE HAS THE DROP ON YOU. Better still your move to get a gun in another room in a lockup so your kid does not blow his brothers brains out by accident, is not going to cut it.
What you are suggesting is having granny sitting on the porch 24/7 with a shotgun for security to keep the trespassers out. HERE are the real facts about why arming the hell out of the public is not how to stop crime; ASK ANY experienced police officer and they will tell you that over 60 percent of guns that wind up on the street are stolen from property crimes and that most bad guy incidents like home invasions and burglaries are not helped by the home owner or any resident using a firearm to either scare off or defend their life and property. AMERICANS are stupid idiots when it comes to fire arms, the truth is unless you are packing 24/7 and it is loaded and at the ready a handgun is useless for protection. So essentially the NRA is correct lets get rid of the morons, let every one pack a piece and make it mandatory. BANG BANG SHOOT SHOOT happiness is warm gun OOH OOH.
The moronic comments here do not surprise me at all but they are an insult to the courage and skill of the Marines that put their lives at risk stopping another idiot with a gun! Idiots with guns confronting idiots with guns is not the answer here, never has been and never will be.
I HUNT and use firearms and have done so since I was a little kid. Most citified morons that worship the almighty hand gun can't even shot a grouse in the head with a 22 short the way we did when we were kids. I am Canadian and the American attitude towards guns is one very good reason why all of you should have your vehicles searched at the border. Like an American uncle of mine that took pride in showing off his 38 that he packed in his glove box loaded all the time just in case some mad trapper or savage wild man attacked while he visited us in our igloos, we all laughed like hell at him cause with a real gun he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and the hand gun he had and shot off all the time was so far beyond his abilities that I would duck when he blasted away because you never knew if he was gonna double on the trigger and pop two off on recoil! So PEOPLE WHO do nothing but watch movies and tv and think they can use firearms should not be allowed anywhere near them and this especially goes for most arm chair Clint Eastwoods which is what most NRA members and supporters are!
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