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Swatch Trademarks "One More Thing..."

AmiMoJo writes: It's the famous line Steve Jobs often used on stage to introduce unexpected Apple gadgets since 1999. Of course he wasn't the only one to utter it — TV detective Columbo was catching out criminals with the phrase way back in the 1970s and '80s too. Now Swiss watchmaker Swatch has acquired a trademark on the phrase "one more thing".

102 comments

  1. Green energy by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

    ref: Steve Jobs' grave.

  2. Swatch Trademarks the phrase "Fristy Ps0t" by electrosoccertux · · Score: 1, Funny

    not to be confused with frosty piss, the maker apologized that they did not have time to trademark both.

    1. Re: Swatch Trademarks the phrase "Fristy Ps0t" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's it, I'm getting a trademark for "please stop", "main street", and "get off my lawn". This is f'ing rediculous.

  3. One more thing! by s.petry · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nothing like abusing a commonly used phrase for gain instead of using innovation and good will.

    Oh, One more thing.

    This generally results in the failure of a company, people have great disdain for abuse.

    One more thing.

    Politicians usually lose offices after this too, so hopefully the cronies were already retiring.

    One more thing!

    Nah, too easy...

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    1. Re:One more thing! by lgw · · Score: 5, Funny

      Jackie Chan's Uncle reportedly very upset by this news. (Screw Jobs, I'll always hear one more thing in Uncle's voice)

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    2. Re:One more thing! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      And one more thing... I'm covered as I always mention two more things.

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    3. Re:One more thing! by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought of Uncle.

      So, Swatch, [Uncle Voice]do you want a piece of Uncllllle?[/Uncle Voice]

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    4. Re:One more thing! by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And here I thought Futurama was just being silly when they ended a commercial with

      "Mom, Love, and Screen Door are registered trademarks of MomCorp."

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  4. So what? by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 0

    Anyone trying to use this extremely common words combination will have to pay royalties? This is way past ridiculous. It's just like microsoft trying to trademark the word "Windows"...

    1. Re:So what? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      "Apple"... twice... when they met, it was almost like matter/anti-matter...

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    2. Re:So what? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      Anyone trying to use this extremely common words combination will have to pay royalties?

      You seriously have absolutely no idea how trademarks work?

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    3. Re:So what? by Gliscameria · · Score: 2

      No. Other companies just can't use it as their tagline - sometimes even more restrictive than that - other companies in that field cannot use this as a tagline.

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    4. Re:So what? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Anyone trying to use this extremely common words combination will have to pay royalties?

      You seriously have absolutely no idea how trademarks work?

      I do have a bit of a clue. I have a couple of trademarks.
      I am surprised that a watch vendor got a trademark on a phrase used in promotional performances by another watch vendor. Maybe lawyers will be sharpening their quills.

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    5. Re:So what? by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      There are no royalties for trademarks. Others are simply not allowed to use the trademark.

      Oh, one more thing (obligatory):

      I always thought Swatch was a contraction for Shitty watch.

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    6. Re:So what? by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      There are no royalties for trademarks. Others are simply not allowed to use the trademark.

      so they have to take down all those old columbo reruns?

    7. Re:So what? by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 1

      You seriously have absolutely no idea how trademarks work?

      Absolutely none. IANAL and am not interested by this trademarks/patents/industrial design crap. I just don't care. But I think it's disgusting that someone claims property on a phrase commonly used everywhere, from TV shows to tech presentations. Or even worse on a single word. Damn, isn't an English dictionary some form of "prior art"?!?

    8. Re:So what? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Anyone trying to use this extremely common words combination will have to pay royalties?

      Nope.

      This is way past ridiculous.

      That's a symptom of your misunderstanding.

      It's just like microsoft trying to trademark the word "Windows"...

      That wasn't bad either. Nor was Palm, Oracle, Amazon, etc. The trick is to understand that the purpose of those laws is to prevent you from buying counterfeit goods. What's worse than buying a computer with Windows on it? Turning it on and finding out it won't even run Windows apps because their choice of OS has a Windows skin on it.

      If you really did have a beef with Windows getting its trademark, the time to bring that up was long before Windows 95 came out and became a household brand.

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    9. Re:So what? by meerling · · Score: 1

      Technically what they were finally successful in trademarking is "Microsoft Windows", but that doesn't stop them from sicking a pack of rabid lawyers on anyone using the word "Windows" for damn near anything.

    10. Re:So what? by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      "Priot art" doesn't apply to trademarks.

      Trademarks ONLY apply in the specific field of business you operate in, and are meaningless outside of that.

      So you and I can continue to use "one more thing" and the people from Swatch can kiss our collective asses.

      This should pretty much be limited to ... being used by a CEO at the end of a presentation in the introduction of a new product or feature, and specifically in the realm of watches and other lines of business which Swatch was engaged in as of the time they got the trademark.

      They can't claim to own the English language. It doesn't work that way.

      So, you in your, say, modern circus can still say things like ... "One more thing ... a monkey with 7 testicles".

      And since Swatch isn't in the business of promoting monkeys and their testicles ... they can shut up.

      I'm sure they'll try to expand this trademark to ridiculous levels, like all corporations do. But they really are restricted in what they can do.

      At least for now. With enough corporate donations, they could change that.

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    11. Re:So what? by sobachatina · · Score: 1

      If you really did have a beef with Windows getting its trademark, the time to bring that up was long before Windows 95 came out and became a household brand.

      Yes that was the time- and people did.
      "windows" was an industry standard term to describe windowed interfaces. Microsoft successfully stole it and there was outrage in the technical community.

      The OP used this event as a very effective example of a time when a generic term was inappropriately granted trademark status.

      You attempted to rebut his excellent example by explaining why trademarks are useful which doesn't at all refute the OP's point.

      At this point you might consider apologizing to the OP for the "symptom of your misunderstanding" comment as it is obvious which of you actually misunderstood..

    12. Re:So what? by swillden · · Score: 1

      Anyone trying to use this extremely common words combination will have to pay royalties? This is way past ridiculous. It's just like microsoft trying to trademark the word "Windows"...

      No. Royalties are a patent and copyright thing. They have nothing to do with trademarks. And, no, it's not the case that anyone trying to use these words will be restricted. Only other people in lines of business that are sufficiently close to Swatch's that their use of the words might confuse people, might make people think that the other product was from Swatch.

      So, if you make brightly-colored, trendy watches and try to use "One more thing" in your advertising, you may get slapped with lawsuit to force you to stop, and maybe pay damages.

      If you make anything other than trendy watches, you're almost certainly fine to use the phrase.

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    13. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An alternative is to declare open season on IP attorneys, stripping them of civil liberties and allowing people to roast them alive and eat their juicy livers, and the only thing the police or prosecutors will be allowed to do is say "BBQ sauce with that?" Let's make it so terrifying to be an IP lawyer that when Little Johnny Sociopath wakes up one morning and decides he wants to be one, he will cut out his own tongue and go work at McDonalds instead.

    14. Re:So what? by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      one more thing

      "specifically in the realm of watches and other lines of business which Swatch was engaged in as of the time they got the trademark."

      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/bd/2b/20/bd2b2054beaf00e2834a9f59419f6161.jpg

    15. Re:So what? by neghvar1 · · Score: 2

      "And, no, it's not the case that anyone trying to use these words will be restricted. Only other people in lines of business that are sufficiently close ..." Tell that to Monster Cable and their trademark on "Monster"

    16. Re:So what? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure you have to use it in the context of a watch before they tear your balls off.

    17. Re:So what? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Yes that was the time- and people did.
      "windows" was an industry standard term to describe windowed interfaces. Microsoft successfully stole it and there was outrage in the technical community.

      Oh, bull. At best there was some mild griping about it in tech circles.

      You attempted to rebut his excellent example by explaining why trademarks are useful which doesn't at all refute the OP's point.

      Actually it did. Regardless of what was thought about it way back when, Microsoft owns that trademark now. Take it away from them and you create market confusion, which you don't actually want no matter how much you hate Microsoft.

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    18. Re:So what? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      "Windows" was widely used in technical contexts long before MS trademarked it. Which is why they lost the trademark battle against "Lindows" in the US court. They won in a European court where English was not the native language, and then they bought the US rights (to "Lindows") from the Lindows company.

      MS should not be allowed the rights to the term windows in any English speaking country. Defending against them, however, is likely to be both expensive and challenging. Because the legal system is rigged. But "window" is a generic term for a section of a computer screen operated on by some particular application, and has been so since long before MS claimed the term. The technical term is still in use, and they have no right to the term.

      OTOH, there are so many languages in the world that coming up with something pronounceable and memorable that *won't* be in conflict is quite difficult. Which is why one company ended up calling itself "Exxon".

      It's not a situation that has an easy answer that doesn't involve changing the law in a way that will disadvantage *someone*.

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    19. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Priot art" doesn't apply to trademarks.

      "Prior art" as a direct legal concept does not apply, however, a very similar concept does apply. A trademark is owned by whichever company the term/logo is associated with. You can reinforce that by registering your trademark. In this case, it seems highly likely that Swatch will be made to give back the trade mark, because it was already strongly associated with a competitor in the watch space.

    20. Re:So what? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Here's a hint about trademarks and how they apply.

      One More Thing

      Just Do It

      I'm Lovin' It

      Think Different

      This post has not violated any trademark law, and I am not legally liable for any kind of trademark infringement. Trademark law does not mean that "anyone" saying or using a trademarked phrase owes royalties.

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    21. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because it was already strongly associated with a competitor in the watch space.

      No, it's a common, generic English phrase. Just because Apple shit-eaters think the HypnoSteve invented the universe doesn't make it true.

    22. Re:So what? by hey! · · Score: 2

      Well, when you're appropriating a common phrase you do have make some effort to make that stand for your product. It's not enough to pick a phrase out of the air and claim it's yours. Nike did this with "Just Do It," and they obviously succeeded because most people who don't live under a rock would be able to identify Nike as the company that uses this trademark.

      And if I understand how this works it doesn't mean other people, even corporations with competitive products, can't use that phrase. They just can't use that phrase in a way that is intended to create an association between that phrase and their product. So a different watch maker could say in it's ad, "One more thing you'll like about our Swiss automatic diver is never having to buy a battery again." That is if I understand this right.

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    23. Re:So what? by easyTree · · Score: 2

      An alternative is to declare open season on IP attorneys, stripping them of civil liberties and allowing people to roast them alive and eat their juicy livers,

      What? I'm pretty sure I read that this was already legalized last year before I... shit, my bad.

    24. Re:So what? by sobachatina · · Score: 2

      At best there was some mild griping about it in tech circles.

      To be fair, outrage in tech circles usually results in nothing but mild griping anyway. But the severity of the outrage is a matter of personal opinion. I remember quite a few people being very put out.

      Actually it did.

      *sigh* No. You rebutted an argument that you imagined. One that the OP didn't say:
      He didn't say that trademarks aren't important.
      He didn't say that Microsoft's trademark should now be revoked.
      He didn't say that he dislikes Microsoft.

      He simply said that at the time the trademark was issued it was for a generic term and shouldn't have been granted.

      Regardless of what was thought about it way back when, Microsoft owns that trademark now.

      No one is arguing that with you.

    25. Re:So what? by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      There are no royalties for trademarks.

      Not strictly true, things are often manufactured "under license" also known as brand leasing, where the trademark owner allows someone else to use a trademark in return for royalties. This is particularly common in the world of beers, where popular overseas brands are often brewed under license". When I buy a can of an American beer in the UK, the chances are that it will have been nowhere near america and the small print on the can will say "brewed under license in the UK".

    26. Re:So what? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      MS has registered trademarks on the word "Windows".

    27. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the summary, it was used by Apple as a recurring verbal gimmick in shows. It does not mean it was used as a mark. Thus they are not affected at all by this trademark. They will if they try to use it as a catchphrase on promotional materials for Apple products. But if they had any intention to, they should have registered it earlier.

    28. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I buy a can of an American beer in the UK, the chances are that it will have been nowhere near america and the small print on the can will say...

      bottled piss from licensed chimps.

  5. Never understood this by Gaygirlie · · Score: 0

    Why are companies allowed to trademark some exceedingly common words or phrases and then extort others based on that? Sure, such things ensure that there will always be need for lawyers, but what about the rest of the society? It just creates even more work for already-overworked courts, it hurts any entity that can't afford to fight back, it indirectly stifles free speech -- aside from the lawyers, the company, and the hands that the company greases the society at large doesn't seem to benefit from such shenanigans at all, yet no one in position of power is even trying to steer the Titanic away from the ice.

    1. Re:Never understood this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because success in government is too often measured by number of trademarks granted / patents issued / laws passed / etc. and not by the actual benefit or lack thereof.

    2. Re:Never understood this by new_01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trademarks, and Patent law are jobs programs for the legal field. Along the way there are some successes. Same goes for the complex tax law.

    3. Re:Never understood this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Usually, the trademark is constrained to a certain field... the idea is that Microsoft should be able to trademark Windows in reference to an OS, so that Bob down the street can't also sell an OS named Windows, but it would have no affect on Dave's 'Windows 4 Less' store that sells house windows.

      Unfortunately, this doesn't always work out.

    4. Re:Never understood this by cdrudge · · Score: 2

      A trademark protects the owner in the subject area that the trademark is assigned to from competitors using the same phrase creating brand confusion. Swatch's trademark is for "SWATCH ONE MORE THING" in a bunch of areas basically jewelry/watches and electronics.

      Other's can use the word/phrase still. Some infomercial could use it about all the wonderful stuff their new magical goo can do, as long as it wasn't for jewelry or an electronic device. Steve Jobs, were he alive today, could use the phrase as part of a presentation, as long as he wasn't using it as a catch phrase. It would just prohibit Apple from naming their next product "One more thing" or launching an ad campaign where that was the slogan, because both of those things could cause confusion to consumers.

    5. Re:Never understood this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of when the wife and I were at Menards just looking and dreaming about a future house.

      Employee asks if we need any help.

      Me: "No just window shopping." [looks around at all the windows on display] "er, looking around for fun..."

    6. Re:Never understood this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Macintosh" could be used by Apple Computer only after they licensed the name from the Washington Apple Growers' Association.

      "Apple" got permission to use the name for their computer company from Apple Corps, Ltd., which was the publisher of Beatles records.

    7. Re:Never understood this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am sorry, but trademark law is probably the only good part of intellectual property laws. Trademarks are great. If I buy a Asus laptop, I want to know it actually came from the company Asus, not some other company that faked its logo. Trademark law is there to make sure this doesn't happen. Of course, every now and then stupid stuff happens with trademark law, but its still there to protect the customer from being abused. You want trademark law to exist.

      Then we have patents and copyright law. They are not there for the customer, they are there to protect the companies from having actual competition. These are bad laws that should be abolished. Capitalism functions very well, but it needs some safeguards to keep it functioning, the most important one is that competition must be ensured, which is why we try to stop monopolies from forming. Competition in capitalism is everything, it makes things better, makes things cheaper, makes things more available. Without competition, you don't need to innovate. Patent and copyright law are two laws that destroy competition, so they are extremely bad for a capitalistic economic system, which is by far the best economic system we have.

    8. Re:Never understood this by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      "Apple" got permission to use the name for their computer company from Apple Corps, Ltd., which was the publisher of Beatles records.

      Only after they promised to stay out of the music industry

    9. Re:Never understood this by mrbester · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that worked out for everybody...

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    10. Re:Never understood this by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      It work out well for the company with the highest paid lawyers.

  6. Uncle by Sowelu · · Score: 2

    It's like they've never seen Jackie Chan Adventures.

    1. Re:Uncle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Jackie Chan Adventures have a series of collectible watches?

    2. Re:Uncle by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      They do. Guaranteed to survive any Bad Day! Bad Day! Bad Day!

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  7. Hmmm by djbckr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think I'm going to trademark "What the Fuck?"
    I'll be rich!

    1. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trademarks are set in specific domains, so while you will be denied an unbound trademark for your phrase, you do have potential if you focus on certain industries.

      Most relevantly, I think you can get your phrase of choice trademarked in the blind zoophilia prostitution business.

    2. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think that one is already taken by Microsoft Windows.

    3. Re:Hmmm by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

      Already ahead of you -- I got "Swatch the Fuck?" TM

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    4. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a wristwatch, not a cock ring.

      Then again... it's whatever it's used for, really. Whatever keeps you hard, I guess.

  8. Not that clever by ITRambo · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure that avoiding the use of "one more thing" won't be all that hard to do. There's always "but wait, there's more!"

    1. Re:Not that clever by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 1

      The man who will be responsible for the technology to keep human heads alive in jars, Ron Popeil, would like to have a word with you. And given the wide variety of products he's invented, that trademark could be very broad.

  9. Tab closed; didn't read by tepples · · Score: 2

    I could not read the featured article because after I got a couple paragraphs down in the text, an automatically playing HTML5 video ad with sound that the site would not let me skip until after watching and listening to all 15 seconds of the 15-second ad caused me to reflexively press Ctrl+R. When the page reloaded, a full-window still ad appeared with a mailing list subscription nag on top of it.

    Ctrl+W.

    1. Re:Tab closed; didn't read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could not read the featured article because after I got a couple paragraphs down in the text, an automatically playing HTML5 video ad with sound that the site would not let me skip until after watching and listening to all 15 seconds of the 15-second ad caused me to reflexively press Ctrl+R. When the page reloaded, a full-window still ad appeared with a mailing list subscription nag on top of it.

      Ctrl+W.

      I do this all the time! I'm not alone!!

  10. Gosh Darn It All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should have squatted on that for a website domain, facebook and twitter. Shit on a crippled penguin!

  11. Yet another reason to eliminate imaginary property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Between trademarks, patents, and copyright the rich will always have a way to milk more money from others. Now the fucking rich is using it to trademark phrases and soon will use imaginary property laws to censor and take away essential rights from others. The phrase "one more thing" is quite common and anyone using it in a public setting "ads, blogs, speech, etc" can and will be sued by a fucking greedy-arsed corporation. The first step to getting our rights back is to eliminate all imaginary property laws. The fucking rich don't like it? Well then tough shit, they shouldn't be so fucking rich in the first place. Perhaps the next step should be to implement a 100% tax on all assets above a certain line, perhaps 10x poverty level.

  12. Hmmm ... by gstoddart · · Score: 0

    So, a trademark is only valid in the area of business in which it is used. It isn't a blanket "nobody can use my catchphrase".

    Which means this can pretty much only be used to ... what ... introduce a new watch by a CEO wearing a black turtleneck at the end of a keynote address? It sure as hell can't be used to prevent people from using it in a general sense.

    It gives the Swiss company the right to use "one more thing" in its promotions and advertising up until 2025, a move no one was expecting. Presumably Swatch wants to aim some sly digs at the Cupertino company rather than pay homage to its innovation.

    Oh, one more thing ... patents like this make me want to punch right in the nuts and then the face every corporate executive in the world, every MBA, and every lawyer.

    One more thing, how you express something isn't "innovation". It's the English language, you can't patent it in broad strokes like that. An expression isn't innovation unless it's truly novel.

    One more thing, these kind of trademarks are stupid.

    One more thing ... assholes.

    They should expect some serious internet mockery if they ever try to enforce this.

    Because they'll quickly get the limitations of this trademark shown to them. Trademarking "one more thing" tells me the people giving out trademarks are idiots who do nothing but cash the cheque.

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    1. Re:Hmmm ... by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      So, a trademark is only valid in the area of business in which it is used. It isn't a blanket "nobody can use my catchphrase".

      Which means this can pretty much only be used to ... what ... introduce a new watch by a CEO wearing a black turtleneck at the end of a keynote address? It sure as hell can't be used to prevent people from using it in a general sense.

      If you look at the registration, it tells exactly what areas it can't be used in (slightly reformatted for readability):

      511 International Classification of Goods and Services for the Purposes of the Registration of Marks (Nice Classification) - NCL(10-2015)

      09
      -Apparatus for recording, transmission and reproduction of sound or images;
      -electronic payment processing apparatus, apparatus for processing cashless payment transactions;
      -magnetic recording media, sound recording disks;
      -compact disks, DVDs and other digital recording media;
      -apparatus enabling the playing of compressed sound files (MP3);
      -calculating machines and data processing equipment, software;
      -game software for mobile telephones, for computers and for digital personal stereos;
      -electronic game software for mobile telephones, for computers and for digital personal stereos;
      -computers, portable computers, handheld computers, mobile computers, personal computers, wrist computers, electronic tablets and computerized and mobile devices, digital personal stereos, mobile telephones and new-generation mobile telephones featuring greater functionality (smartphones);
      -telecommunication apparatus and instruments;
      -apparatus for recording, transmission, reproduction of sound or images, particularly mobile telephones and new-generation mobile telephones incorporating greater functionality (smartphones);
      -hand-held electronic apparatus for accessing the Internet and sending, receiving, recording and storing short messages, electronic messages, telephone calls, faxes, video conferences, images, sound, music, text and other digital data;
      -handheld electronic apparatus for wireless receiving, storing and transmitting of data or messages;
      -handheld electronic apparatus for monitoring and organizing personal information;
      -handheld electronic apparatus for global positioning [GPS] and displaying maps and transport information;
      -handheld electronic devices for detecting, monitoring, storing, surveillance and transmitting data relating to the user activity, namely position, itinerary, distance traveled, heart rate;
      -covers for computers, portable and mobile telephones;
      -optical apparatus and instruments, particularly spectacles, sunglasses, magnifying glasses;
      -cases for spectacles, magnifying glasses and sunglasses;
      -batteries and cells for computers and electronic and chronometric apparatus.

      14
      -Precious metals and their alloys and goods made of these materials or coated therewith included in this class, namely figurines, trophies;
      -jewelry, namely rings, earrings, cufflinks, bracelets, charms, brooches, chains, necklaces, tie pins, tie clips, jewelry caskets, jewelry cases;
      -precious stones, semi-precious stones;
      -timepieces and chronometric instruments, namely chronometers, chronographs, clocks, watches, wristwatches, wall clocks, alarm clocks as well as parts and accessories for the aforesaid goods, namely hands, anchors, pendulums, barrels, watch cases, watch straps, watch dials, clockworks, watch chains, movements for timepieces, watch springs, watch glasses, presentation cases for timepieces, cases for timepieces.

      Anything not listed, or in a generic sense would be fair game (unless covered by someone else's trademark that is).

    2. Re:Hmmm ... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Section 14 is far too broad and section 09 is insanely too broad. Trademark denied.

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  13. No, it's worse. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone using this extremely common word combination will be assaulted by Swiss mercenaries and forced to convert all clocks in their possession over to Internet time.

    I'll see you at 762 beats.

  14. Why? by MacTO · · Score: 1

    Jobs clearly made "one more thing" work for Apple. But that was for product announcements and it seemed to be an in-joke by a secretive company that couldn't keep its secrets very well.

    Other than that, the expression seems to have more negative connotations than positive ones. It is the sort of thing that people say when they cannot stop talking, or when someone wants to emphasize a piece of bad news. It is the sort of thing that implies excess or redundancy. It is not the thing that many smart companies say unless they carefully engineer it to be an advantage.

  15. But wait ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... there's more.

    I can see a marketing association with a phrase like that really going wrong.

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  16. Trademark! For what areas? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ya know, if we're talking about intellectual property that has bounds (eg Trademarks), can we get the bounds thrown in too?
    Eg, Swatch trademarks the phrase "One More Thing..." in Clothing/Apparel, and Timepieces (I didn't look it up, so don't take these categories as truth)...

  17. the three amigos. by nimbius · · Score: 1

    Swatch: One more thing...
    Apple: It just works...
    Microsoft: Oh for christ sake again are you serious what the hell I just rebooted 20 minutes ago!

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    1. Re:the three amigos. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These days, I think you have the last two swapped. I just updated my Mac mini to 10.10.5, and it kernel panicked twice in the first 12 hours. WTF Apple.

  18. What I'm Hoping For by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope ISIS starts using the phrase incessantly.

  19. Meanwhile Nokia by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

    Meanwhile Nokia has submitted its application for "Good News Everybody!"

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  20. One less thing to trademark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we just trademark all combinations of letters and be done with it?

  21. Re:One more thing! by BoRegardless · · Score: 0

    "One more thing" will just remind readers of Samsung's slogan of the real innovator, Apple. Bad move!

  22. This is bad news by houghi · · Score: 1

    Now Steve Job will never say it again.

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    1. Re:This is bad news by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      How is that bad news?

  23. Just one more thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a shame that people can take common phrases and make it so you have to pay to say it.

    One more thing, I doubt anybody anywhere still owns a swatch.

    One more thing, I seriously doubt trademarking the phrase "One more thing" will get anybody to buy a swatch.

    One more thing, I am pretty sure that anybody that thinks this was a good idea is the same type of person that would actually buy a swatch.

    One more thing, If they ever decided to sue someone for using the phrase 'one more thing', immediately after finishing getting back up off the floor from laughing so hard, the judge would say to them "One more thing, you lose."

  24. Up getting a trademark is easy. Defending it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Is impossible when it runs afoul the "generic term or phrase" rule. Why did they Swatch get the TM in the first place? Because bureaucracies are inefficient and are historically lax in granting TMs and patents. It's easier to say yes than to challenge an application, and the lazy examiner is likely to simply give a dubious TM app a pass. But the TM in this case will be easily demolished by a simple showing of prior generic usage. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-generic-terms-why-cant-they-be-used-for-trademarks.html

  25. Trademark dilution by tepples · · Score: 1

    Trademarks ONLY apply in the specific field of business you operate in, and are meaningless outside of that.

    True, trademarks that aren't yet famous are limited to a field of use. But in the 1990s, the concept of trademark dilution broadened exclusive rights in famous trademarks to cover even unrelated use.

  26. Crayola and crayons by Archfeld · · Score: 0

    AFAIK Crayola failed to defend the name and it became synonymous with a wax colored stick rather than a specific product produced by a specific company. Windows is much the same, prior to M$ windows, if you can remember back that far referred to a virtual window on an IBM mainframe, but M$ failed to vigorously defend the term and it became an industry wide term used by all.

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  27. Columbo and Peter Falk by Gim+Tom · · Score: 2

    If anyone has a trademark on that phrase it was Peter Falk as Lt. Columbo in the TV series of the same name!

  28. List of things that have used it as a catchphrase by neminem · · Score: 1

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw...

    (To be fair, it's a trope about the topic, not the specific phrase, so it encompasses a number of similar phrases. But do a search of that page on that exact phrase, you'll find a number of hits, not only Columbo.)

  29. Cows say by EdwardFurlong · · Score: 1

    I had a manager who would say "the thing is" or "that's the thing is" in every other sentence. I kept track once with a pile of screws, 70+ in under an hour.

    1. Re:Cows say by EdwardFurlong · · Score: 1

      A10 second search says common phrases can be trademarked, but you will not be in violation of them as long as you would not be "likely to confuse the average consumer and make him or her believe the ____ is endorsed, sponsored, or approved by the owner of the trademark." For me "just do it" comes to mind. Really I think there is no way this crap should get a trademark. I would say something like "have a coke" could qualify. I guess I am just picturing a bunch a parodies, bums on the street yelling "just do it!" trying to get you to buy some crap. Eh in closing, you want to trademark some phrase, your stupid name should be in it. Someone else wants to say "Have a carbonatedpoopdrink" I don't care.

  30. Do they say it like Jackie Chan's uncle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone else remember the 1990s Saturday Morning Cartoon version of Jackie Chan, where his uncle would say "one moooooore thing" followed by some dire warning that Jackie or his niece ignored, to their peril?

    1. Re:Do they say it like Jackie Chan's uncle? by Anonymous_Coward_No1 · · Score: 1

      I am 98% sure that the show was from the early 2000's but I just don't care to verify.

  31. Ooh, I'm Trademarking The Response by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    It's a penis, isn't it?(tm)

    And also cock-swatch(tm)

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  32. I claim prior art by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    I've been saying that in print since the Internet was created (which is decades before we let you n00bZ use it).

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  33. Columbo and Jackie Chan's uncle... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

    ...could not be reached for comment.

  34. So what? by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

    Trademark isn't copyright. Restriction on use is much narrower. This isn't going to pose a problem to anyone except maybe other watchmakers.

  35. As by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...makes Asswatch. Now this I could get into!

  36. The last thing I'd want to buy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is a swatch.

  37. Lucky for us ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Swatch forgot to trademark "FUCK YOU!"

    FUCK YOU!

  38. More proof that "intellectual property" is bs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet again more proof that the whole concept of "Intellectual Property" is a steaming pile of bullshit.

    No wonder nobody respects copyrights and IP.

  39. Very bad marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This kind of crap puts a bad taste in my mouth for those that do it. Very bad marketing.

  40. Brilliant Marketing Possibilities by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

    Because your life is not cluttered enough
    Because you can't resist buying stupid shit
    Because you need just One More Thing to clutter up your home ...

    Swatch!

  41. Things replaced by my smartphone... by bledri · · Score: 1

    Things replaced by my smartphone: Land line, physical books, Game Boy, micro-cassette recorder, calculator, camera, walk-man, PDA, flash cards, timer, alarm clock, flash light, stupid keychain barcode cards, notepad, walkie-talkie, portable DVD player, and ...

    One more thing... Swatch

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  42. I'm sure apple is really angry about this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just give it time, eventually Apple will buy the trademark for pennies on the dollar when Swatch folds.

  43. Uh..and one more ting... ® ;-) by doccus · · Score: 1

    With trademarks, don't you have to demonstrate prior usage? Like, if you've never used it, but your competitor has, as in this case, aren't you ineligible to register it? Or am I mistaken?