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How To Keep Microsoft's Nose Out of Your Personal Data In Windows 10

MojoKid writes: Amid the privacy concerns and arguably invasive nature of Microsoft's Windows 10 regarding user information, it's no surprise that details on how to minimize leaks as much as possible are often requested by users who have recently made the jump to the new operating system. If you are using Windows 10, or plan to upgrade soon, it's worth bearing in mind a number of privacy-related options that are available, even during the installation/upgrade. If you are already running the OS and forgot to turn them off during installation (or didn't even see them), they can be accessed via the Settings menu on the start menu, and then selecting Privacy from the pop-up menu. Among these menus are a plethora of options regarding what data can be gathered about you. It's worth noting, however, that changing any of these options may disable various OS related services, namely Cortana, as Microsoft's digital assistant has it tendrils buried deep.

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  1. HOSTS file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "How To Keep Microsoft's Nose Out of Your Personal Data In Windows 10"

    How about a new HOSTS file? APK?

    1. Re:HOSTS file by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is criminal energy involved in sabotaging mechanisms such as the hosts-file in order to deceive users. Even thinking of it requires significant criminal energy, and the strong intent to harm users.

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    2. Re:HOSTS file by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Use a modern OS instead of Windows.

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    3. Re:HOSTS file by plasm4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah I have to agree with you there. Going out of your way to hide something from someone is different simply not mentioning it.

    4. Re:HOSTS file by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Until the OS ignores your HOSTS file for some hard-coded domains. If you can't trust your OS, why are you trusting it to filter things out? The filtering has to come from outside, from another system.

      That's why you need to use a firewall. A real one, not that Windows Firewall crap. And block any outgoing connections you don't approve.

    5. Re:HOSTS file by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've been doing it by IP range, watching a fresh Windows 10 install to see what it contacts.

      65.52.108.0/14 #update.microsoft.com, licensing.md.mp.microsoft.com, v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com. Update has an alternate in another range.
      104.40.0.0/13
      204.79.196.0/23 #Start menu searches.
      23.93.0.0/13
      157.54.0.0/15
      157.60.0.0/16
      191.236.0.0/14
      207.46.0.0/16
      131.253.62.0/23
      131.253.64.0/18
      131.253.61.0/24 #login.live.com
      131.253.128.0/17
      191.232.0.0/14 #settings-win.data.microsoft.com
      #Do not block these, required for updates:
      #157.56.0.0/14 #sls.update.microsoft.com
      #191.232.0.0/14 #windowsupdate.microsoft.com

      I also had to block all subdomains for appex.bing.com, appex-rf.msn.com and cms.msn.com. Can't IP-block those as they are CDNs.

    6. Re:HOSTS file by rastos1 · · Score: 5, Informative
  2. Ok i'm going to say it by ozduo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    don't install the damm thing!

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  3. I'm not a panicky guy but... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been with windows for close to two decades.

    But I'm probably going to either use an older windows box or just bite the bullet and go to linux for my "real" machine. I might use windows for a gaming machine.

    I've used openoffice then libre office for years now and no longer even occasionally dip back into Word.

    I've disliked the tighter microsoft email/social account integration for a while now.

    I really dislike what I'm hearing about the new o/s. I stopped using facebook because of similar actions.
    it's like being fabulously wealthy isn't enough. If windows 10 goes forward as is, I probably won't go with it.

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    1. Re:I'm not a panicky guy but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Maybe you missed that Microsoft have made it increasingly difficult and misleading to get around setting and and logging into a Microsoft account. Maybe you missed that not all the snooping can be turned off. Or maybe you're just trolling.

    2. Re:I'm not a panicky guy but... by theArtificial · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you can use Linux, you can easily disable any feature you don't like on Windows

      For those not using the corporate version please share the steps for disabling telemetry. Another Slashdotter posted an interesting video that captured packets when programs, such as calculator, were opened. This was with the settings as private as they could be made: Cortana off, smartscreen off, bug reporting off, everything he could find turned off.

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  4. What pissed me off... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Was when I was looking at the app store, but it said I had to log in to my microsoft account to use any of the apps. OK, logged in with my hotmail account which has a long complex password, which was copy/pasted with my password manager. I turn my PC off for the night, next day it won't take my usual password because it's now not a local machine logon, but is my microsoft logon, which I can't fill in because I can't open my password manager. Luckily I backup the keepass data to a USB flashdrive, so I fire up my other real OS which is linux so I can write down the frigging password to get the windows pile of shit logged back in. Screw MS... wiping the drive and installing linux.

    1. Re:What pissed me off... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

      When you logged in to the app store you were asked if you wanted to convert your account to a Microsoft online account, or just log in to the app store. You must have ignored that question and blindly clicked through it, and hence your account was converted (unfortunately that is the default).

      http://www.guidingtech.com/ass...

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  5. Re:/facepalm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Couple of days of reading?, like you could just click the damn "Privacy options" link at install time and uncheck the 4 or 5 options.

    Two major problems with that:

    1) There aren't options to disable all of the spyware in Windows 10.
    2) Even when you "disable" the options that you are graciously allowed to by Microsoft on your own PC, it still sends that data anyway.

    If you knew how to use a packet analyser, you could see that for yourself instead of posting comments that reveal what a clueless idiot you are.

  6. Re:not good enough by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... or just disable the features you don't like... like you could have done all along. If you can use Linux, you can disable any feature you don't like from Windows.

    Except that in Windows 10, you can't. There are many things for which there are no settings to disable them. And even you dig deep, it still doesn't work. But don't take my word for it. Try it.

    Open Task Manager and kill Cortana. It immediately comes back. This is just one example of Microsoft going back to the old scam they used years ago, "We can't remove Internet Explorer because it's too deeply embedded in the OS".

  7. Re:/facepalm by timrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the problem is that MS isn't being completely clear as to what it is they're collecting or why they're collecting it. Take those seven or eight updates to Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 that added forced telemetry collection. No one really knows what it is those things are collecting - MS's own update really doesn't say much other than "It's information needed to ease the transition between Windows 7 or 8.1 and Windows 10" and "It's for customer experience improvements". On top of this, all of the telemetry updates were marked as "Important" in Windows Update, meaning that they'll be automatically installed on most update configurations.

    If MS really had some reason to do this, they should have said exactly what it is they were collecting and why from the get-go, and also had a clear opt-out provision. Failing to do this is what's sparking a lot of paranoia - I've heard everything from "MS's telemetry service is logging everything you type and sending it to MS to improve autocorrect functionality" to "MS is actively recording input from attached webcams and microphones and sending it to MS servers".

    I think if MS were to put out a well-thought out announcement telling people why it is they're doing this, a lot of the paranoia would go away.

  8. Photoshop / Lightroom anxiety by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My wife has a small photography business, and Photoshop and Lightroom are huge aspects of her photo editing workflow. She's invested untold hours building up skills in them, and that proficiency really pays off in terms of the quality and speed of her editing work.

    Right now she edits on our Windows 7 box. I'm almost dead set against us using Windows 10 because of this privacy crap (and now I apparently have to try undoing the telemetry those assholes snuck into Windows 7.)

    I feel caught between a rock and a hard place, because switching to a Mac would be an unwelcome expense for us. Also an business risk, since I can cheaply repair or upgrade a PC, but I have not expectation of being able to do that on a Mac. So if a Mac craps out near one of her deadlines, I'm not confident that I can get it (or a replacement) online as fast as we really want.

    I'm just amazed at how hard Microsoft is working to drive us away. They've gone from being a reasonable partner for our kind of business (Windows 7), to being one of our largest sources of medium- and long-term risk. They're now making our decision to use Windows for her business, into a strategic mistake.

    I really hope Adobe comes up with some decent solution to people in our shoes. If they have a Linux port of Creative Suite in their back pocket, this would be a dandy time to start selling it.