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Ubuntu Is the Dominant Cloud OS

An anonymous reader writes: According to a new report by Cloud Market, Ubuntu is more than twice as popular on Amazon EC2 as all other operating systems combined. Given that Amazon Web Services has 57% of the public cloud market, Ubuntu is clearly the most popular OS for cloud systems. This is further bolstered by a recent OpenStack survey, which found that more than half of respondents used Ubuntu for cloud-based production environments. Centos was a distant second at 29%, and RHEL came in third at 11%. "In addition to AWS, Ubuntu has been available on HP Cloud, and Microsoft Azure since 2013. It's also now available on Google Cloud Platform, Fujitsu, and Joyent." The article concludes, "People still see Ubuntu as primarily a desktop operating system. It's not — and hasn't been for some time."

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  1. Re:no surprise, what people use at home they use t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nobody in the datacenter uses Ubuntu desktop. they use server. and in fact I see far more CentOS/Redhat than Ubuntu simply because enterprise tools like Oracle has support for redHat.

    Ubuntu desktop is an abomination unless you install Kubuntu or Xubuntu. nobody sane like standard Ubuntu, just like how nobody sane likes windows 8/8.1

  2. Centos = RHEL really by Kludge · · Score: 5, Informative

    Centos was a distant second at 29%, and RHEL came in third at 11%

    Apparently the poster does not realize that these are really the same thing?

    1. Re: Centos = RHEL really by thule · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because RHEL has direct support from RedHat and CentOS has community support. Since the src.rpm's are the same for RedHat and CentOS (minus the trademark graphics), I'm comfortable calling CentOS a clone of RHEL.

  3. Re:no surprise, what people use at home they use t by quantaman · · Score: 4, Informative

    RedHat got into the datacenter by being a popular desktop distro, people setting things up in the datacenter used what they were familiar with.

    People have been predicting that RedHat would run into this sort of problem ever since they abandoned the home/workstation market. It's taken a lot longer than I expected, but it's happening.

    RedHat was able to hold this off for a while by getting the datacenter managers to mandate standardization, but in AWS such rules are far less enforced.

    David Lang

    I don't feel like RedHat abandoned the home/workstation market, both my home and work desktop run Fedora 22.

    As for AWS who is using those machines? My gut is these are individuals or small shops willing to pay for cloud hosting but unwilling to pay the extra for support. For instance CentOS is beating RHEL 29% to 11%, granted I'm not sure what support you get for RHEL in AWS but I doubt there's any reason to use CentOS over RHEL in the cloud aside from cost. I tried switching to Ubuntu for my personal cloud server but went to CentOS instead.

    My hunch is the vast majority of those Ubuntu VMs aren't paying any support and thus wouldn't really impact RedHat's bottom line anyway. It's when paid businesses go to Ubuntu they have to worry, but the requirements of the customers willing to pay out big money for licenses and support are vastly different than those of desktop users.

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  4. Re:According to the chart... by bws111 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, if you could read instead of just looking at the pretty pictures, you would see that what is labeled Linux is Amazons own Linux image.

  5. Re:What makes Ubuntu Server unsuitable? by thule · · Score: 5, Informative

    RHEL has good 3rd party support for when you need it. RedHat also spends a lot of work and money on compliance testing (e.g. Common Criteria and SCAP). This helps out with HIPAA and PCI regulation. It helps fill out that little check box so we all can get back to worrying about real security. I personally use RedHat's IdM (which is really FreeIPA). FreeIPA is awesome.

  6. Re:Ubuntu _is_ primarily a desktop OS... by rossz · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's almost as bloated with junk as the desktop version. I've been telling our developers to use debian over ubuntu. A base minimal container with Debian is under a 100 megs. With Ubuntu it's close to 700 megs. There's just too much stuff included by default. That means a whole bunch of things that could be potential security problems. Sure, you have to set up more in the Dockerfile since so little is included, but I consider that a feature, not a bug.

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  7. Important Takeaway by The+Raven · · Score: 3, Informative

    This just demonstrates one very valuable fact for any hopeful cloud OS wannabe: If your desktop environment sucks 'because you're a cloud OS', then you won't be a Cloud OS.

    If the admin can't get familiar with your OS on their personal desktop, they are not going to think of using you in a mission critical place. The best server OS has to be a good personal OS too or it will never become popular enough. RHEL started off as just RedHat, one of the better distributions for Linux. 'EL' was just a backend change to the same comfortable front end, just as Windows Server is familiar for those who use Windows as their primary desktop.

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  8. Almost by s.petry · · Score: 3, Informative

    Being the most popular does not mean the best choice, especially in Amazon's cloud where most people would be using it for development and testing, not necessarily production. The last few places I worked production was all RHEL. Development and testing projects went to EC2 and CentOS. This was not a "CentOS is better" consideration, it was exclusively a pricing consideration. Ubuntu is the same, where it's mostly free and lots of the fad followers still think Ubuntu is better than other OSes because it's simple to setup. For a workstation I'd agree that it's easier for a non Admin to setup. There is no advantages and some disadvantages when using it for a server other than a simple Web/DB server.

    IMHO the problem with any of these statistics reports is that it does not demonstrate reality in any way, shape, or form. Like all statistics, it's intentionally worded to mislead people. From the title, you would think that the Hyper-visor is Ubuntu but it's not. TFA also makes a wild ass guess because Amazon said it's the most used for them and they own 57% of the cloud market. You don't have to be a math wizard to see how that speculation could easily be wrong (Amazon never said that 98% of their client nodes are running Ubuntu).

    Personally, I see Ubuntu exactly like MS. It's controlled by the Brits who have more intrusion ability by the Government than the US (with US help of course). I don't trust either, and won't use either. That does not mean I'm running out to pay for RHEL licenses. I'll use a good trusted free OS like Debian or CentOS over MS or Canonical's Ubuntu. Sometimes free makes lots of sense, and other times you want the pay for support.

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