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Apple Partners With Cisco To Boost Enterprise Business
An anonymous reader writes: Apple and Cisco announced a partnership aimed at helping Apple's devices work better for businesses. Cisco will provide services specially optimized for iOS devices across mobile, cloud, and on premises-based collaboration tools such as Cisco Spark, Cisco Telepresence and Cisco WebEx, the companies said in a statement. "What makes this new partnership unique is that our engineering teams are innovating together to build joint solutions that our sales teams and partners will take jointly to our customers," Cisco Chief Executive Chuck Robbins said in a blog post.
Apple partners with Crisco to make a delicious pie!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Cisco Engineers massively prefer Macs over PCs to the point that those that use anything other than Macs are rare. By improving their products on Macs, they are helping their employees even before any clients are considered.
Democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the issue
but why should anyone have to pay more extra for Apple products?
Cisco don't need no Apple badges.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/match_made_in_hell
The allure of making even bigger bucks shouldn't always dictate infrastructure designs. This is a worse idea than Apple partnering with your gas/electric utility companies.
I like this type of cooperation better.
http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/solutions/collateral/data-center-virtualization/openstack-at-cisco/linux-containers-white-paper-cisco-red-hat.pdf
https://www.lpi.org/cisco-networking-academy-adopts-course-aligned-to-lpi-linux-essentials-certificate/
In the long run you have a totally better situation with Linux over Apple. (noteworthy is Windows 10 has the global end-user-spyware dept. covered.)
How about, well, learning to support an enterprise? Stop treating every device like it is a consumer toy. Offer some real management tools, don't require an Apple account to do everything on your computers, etc, etc, etc.
It always amuses me when I see Apple talk about the enterprise space because they have done such a shit job supporting OS-X for the enterprise for so long. You can make it work, of course, and there are plenty of 3rd party tools, many very expensive, to help but it is all your own doing. Apple themselves seem to view each device as an island, property of a single consumer to be used as a toy and thrown away when the next shiny toy comes along.
Of course what they really mean here is "We want big businesses to buy our stuff, but we don't want to actually go through the trouble of supporting them."
What OS are the routers going to run? iOS or IOS?
These devices don't belong on an enterprise network anyway. They're allowed on a guest network and that's it.
Who in their right mind is going to allow these personal devices on a company network? Haven't we seen enough bad things happen with stuff like this?
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
I would be perfectly happy if they just said "Know what? OS-X is a home user OS. We don't support the enterprise. We are going to remove support for these enterprise features with the next version. Use something else." That would be great because then I could tell all the Macheads to suck it up and use Windows or Linux.
However Apple likes to play at enterprise support, they've played at it for years. They act like they care, but as you note they half-ass it to the extreme.
Even internally. I remember not long after Apple stopped the Xserve I was talking to one of their engineers and I ask him what they were going to do. Apple had started doing the MS thing of "eating their own dogfood" and was heavily using OS-X on Xserve for their own stuff. He said "I have no idea. They didn't tell us this was coming. We'll probably start using IBM hardware again."
It drives me up the wall as we waste an inordinate amount of time dealing with Macs because people want a shiny toy and can't understand they are unsuited for enterprise use.
Please let us put that in every article.
E.g.,
Google (and the NSA) rolls out new mail service
IBM (and the NSA) etc etc
Unless Apple comes up with some real give away hardware deals. They will never gain much in enterprise as a whole. Sure, companies with nice technology budgets can buy Apple products, but most do big deals with Dell and HP and Lenovo. I do think some businesses want Apple products because they feel that they are struggling with Windows products in security. Google did this a few years back making all but a few areas use Mac's in order to stem the security problems.
This is where I don't see Microsoft doing enough, but I still do not see enterprise leaving Windows for OS X or IOS in droves.
Most people who work in enterprises don't work in IT so they don't care about admin tools etc. Most people work in marketing, sales, accounting, finance, logistics or manufacturing and all the software for all those departments runs on Windows. Middle market accounting software for Mac? Does not exist. Manufacturing/inventory control software for Mac? Nope. Contractor estimating/job costing? You get the picture.
Basically, Apple wants better versions of Movi, AnyConnect, and WebEx for their systems.
Hold on. Is it April first? Because that's GOT to be a joke.
Apple doesn't want, and cannot handle enterprise business.
Because enterprise customers, spending millions, aren't as forgiving of Apple's little "oopsies" the way their fanboy userbase is.
And having technicians constantly going "Well try this piece of software and see if it does what you want" would get old quickly.
The Mac developer base couldn't support it (bless their eclectic little hearts...)
Now the elephant in the room. Apple's inherent undependability.
People have been throwing a shit fit for the past few years about Windows 8 and the lack of a START MENU. The reason Windows 8 didn't take off was because enterprise was NOT willing to absorb retraining costs.
What happens when Apple decides to go its own way again and literally changes PLATFORMS (a'la PPC to x86) at some point in the future? You think enterprise customers are going to take a risk like that?
FUCK NO!
Apple's cut themselves a foofy little niche amongst cool kids, artsie-fartsie types and people who don't know any better. They simply aren't equipped to deal with anything at the enterprise level.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!