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Comcast To Charge $30 For Unlimited Data Over 300GB Cap

For some time, Comcast has been testing 300 GB monthly data caps in certain markets. An anonymous reader notes a policy change unveiled today that gives customers in those markets the ability to switch back to unlimited data for $30 extra. Previously (and currently, for customers who don't pay the extra $30), Comcast would charge $10 per 50GB above the cap. "Comcast's intent on this front has been clear for some time. Comcast lobbyist and VP David Cohen last year strongly suggested that usage caps would be arriving for all Comcast customers sooner or later. The idea of charging users a premium to avoid arbitrary usage restrictions has been a pipe dream of incumbent ISP executives for a decade." The new policy goes into effect on October 1.

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  1. Limited unlimited by dshk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is no problem, but they must not be allowed to advertise it as an unlimited plan. It also indicates that the government must work on strengthening free competition.

    1. Re:Limited unlimited by domoc · · Score: 2

      Yep, for $30 more, you can have unlimited data caps.** ** very small print: Only unlimited until 400GB.

    2. Re:Limited unlimited by postbigbang · · Score: 2

      There comes a point where the speed of light gets into your way doing downloads. You're talking only 80 copies of Windows 10 per month you know.

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    3. Re:Limited unlimited by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 2

      ... You're talking only 80 copies of Windows 10 per month you know.

      That sounds like a very sad habit...

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    4. Re:Limited unlimited by Radres · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Any presidential candidate that runs on the platform of regulating ISPs like a public utility has my vote, regardless of their stance on any other issue. I don't understand how this system is allowed to continue. It's clearly not a free market nor will it ever be.

    5. Re:Limited unlimited by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      That is no problem, but they must not be allowed to advertise it as an unlimited plan. It also indicates that the government must work on strengthening free competition.

      Do I have to pay for the gigabytes of malware advertisements they try to force feed me?

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    6. Re:Limited unlimited by jthill · · Score: 2

      You do know that cordcutters who use their streaming subscriptions, HD at 3GB/hr, four hours a day, already blows that cap, right? That that's just for one person at less than the national average video usage per day?

      What they're doing is stifling competition that hasn't really gotten traction yet. There's a term for that: monopolizing the market. It makes things scarce, it makes them expensive, and it makes them bad.

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    7. Re:Limited unlimited by farble1670 · · Score: 2

      You do know that cordcutters who use their streaming subscriptions, HD at 3GB/hr, four hours a day [google.com], already blows that cap, right? That that's just for one person at less than the national average video usage per day?

      Netflix requires 3.0Mb/s (megabits / s) for HD (less for SD). that's 375KB/s.
      http://www.bandwidthplace.com/...

      375KB/s * 60s * 60m = 1.35GB / hr. at that rate, you could watch HD content for 222 hours straight (9.25 days) before you'd hit your 300GB cap. seems pretty reasonable to me.

      source: math.

    8. Re:Limited unlimited by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      Wrong idea.

      Vote for the one that wants to regulate INFRASTRUCTURE as utility, that force to split infrastructure (laying and maintaining the cables and related hardware) from the network services, and allow anyone to use those same cables on equal basis (so Comcast infrastructure who owns the cables, has to charge Comcast ISP the same fee as Slashdot ISP to use the same cables).

      Then you get a free market with real competition. Otherwise you're still stuck with local monopolies.

    9. Re:Limited unlimited by jd2112 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem is that often they have been granted monopoly status but rarely are they held to the same standards that other monopoly utilities (power, gas, landline phone, etc.) are held to, such as requiring universal coverage within their service area rather than just the most profitable parts, approval required from some governing board before rate hikes, etc.

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    10. Re:Limited unlimited by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 2

      I'm going to make them hurt for this. I normally use right at about 400 to 450 GB a month. They charge me $30 for that. I actually try to keep my data usage under control and stay close to my 300 GB limit.

      Since Comcast is determined to squeeze me. I will pay the extra $30 for the unlimited usage but I'm going to use it. I will have to use at least 450 GB a month to make it worth it. So every month I will use at least 450GB, and I'm going to attempt to double it just for spite. Being a vindictive jack ass that I am.

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    11. Re:Limited unlimited by sabbede · · Score: 2

      They sold me mine as unlimited. I made damn sure when I signed up that there wasn't a cap. I asked several times, in person. Six months later, they gave the "good news" that the cap was being raised from 250 to 300. Outrageous.

    12. Re:Limited unlimited by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      Sue them in small claims court for the entirety of the plan for that 6 months. It is breach of contract. I assume you have a copy of the contract?

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  2. They almost got it right by mattventura · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The non-dick solution would to just be to keep the old system but cap the overage charges at $30, so you can get unlimited for $30/month without having to guess how much bandwidth you're going to use up to a month in advance.

    1. Re:They almost got it right by linuxrocks123 · · Score: 2

      The real non-dick move would be to rate limit you or even cut you off at 300GB and then allow you to actually choose to pay for the overage.

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    2. Re:They almost got it right by sabbede · · Score: 2, Insightful
      No, it doesn't slow you down. That's their excuse, and it is a lie. Even if it wasn't, it would be Comcast's fault for selling data rates they can't supply. If I'm paying for 75mbs, I get to use it. A monthly cap does nothing to secure your bandwidth - I could be maxing mine while you're asleep, never interfering with you and still facing an arbitrary cap.

      QoS throttling is what keeps your neighbor's torrents from impacting you, not a cap.

  3. Re:Type of data/download by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd choose a cellular provider that gave me 300GB.

  4. Meanwhile, in Canada... by Ichijo · · Score: 2

    For some ISPs, the caps don't apply between 2am and 8am. This is similar to "unlimited nights and weekends" cell phone plans. Does Comcast really need to cap usage when nobody's using the network, or is it just a money grab?

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  5. I can already see the Slashdot headlines by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A year from now, I look forward to hearing Comcast whine about how "No legitimate user could seriously expect to pay $30 for 1.5 petabytes per month. Obviously, unlimited didn't mean unlimited - We intended it to give only another 300GB. We need to limit these greedy users out of fairness to our other customers."

    Fuck 'em. I don't know who to consider dumber - Comcast, or any of their customers who fall for this again.

  6. Comcast giveth and I taketh away by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every time Comcast increases my bill, I drop a feature that costs the same amount. They're getting perilously close to the point where that feature will be "TV".

    An open message to Comcast execs: be absolutely sure you're ready to make customers decide between your content and Netflix. I bet you'd be surprised how often the response won't be what you'd hope.

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    1. Re:Comcast giveth and I taketh away by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      An open message to Comcast execs: be absolutely sure you're ready to make customers decide between your content and Netflix. I bet you'd be surprised how often the response won't be what you'd hope.

      Good luck with that. Netflix is busy dropping content, using the rationale that you can get that content from cable TV instead. We're approaching a point where the only winning move is not to pay; I predict many folks will soon cancel cable and Netflix, and just go back to torrents.

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    2. Re:Comcast giveth and I taketh away by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Informative

      Netflix is always dropping content to rotate in content they didn't already have (note I didn't say "new" content). They've always operated this way. The other option is to charge more and have a larger selection. I think I'm with most people in saying I would rather them rotate in new content than have a totally static library of movies after they hit the limit of what they can afford to license.

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  7. Re:300 GB a month is nothing in the era of HD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    > Heck, we have 40 Gbps ports campuswide and three 100 Gbps ports. We slurp that much data in one minute.

    The gas station down the street has larger tanks than my car. What's your point?

  8. 4K streaming? by Jumunquo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Comcast just officially killed 4k streaming. We'll be stuck in the dark ages of the Comonopoly while the world upgrades.

  9. Re:American public is stupid by FranTaylor · · Score: 2

    a flat number was chosen to stop the Netflix data guzzlers

    and yet they can stream the same data over the same cables from comcast's streaming service without affecting their data cap

    and then they say that they are doing it because of capacity issues

  10. Just a money grab by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only reason they are making any changes is because the FCC is considering doing something.

    As a point for comparison where I live there are two cable providers, Cox and Comcast, covering different parts of the city. Cox has a data cap, but it is 2TB. Also that is a soft cap. If you hit it, nothing happens. They may call and complain at you if you do it too much, but that's all. It is there to try and keep people reasonable, and so they can cut off someone in truly egregious cases (I've never actually heard of anyone getting cut off).

    Now somehow both these companies can make money, yet only Comcast charges for overages and yet has much lower caps.

    It is just a money grab. While some kind of soft cap or throttling can be needed to make sure people play nice (we can only have Internet fast and cheap if people share, otherwise the backhaul is prohibitively expensive) low hard caps with overage fees are just used to try and make more cash.

  11. Not everyone lives alone by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    at that rate, you could watch HD content for 222 hours straight (9.25 days) before you'd hit your 300GB cap

    Divide by the number of people in the house who watch Netflix. And subtract all other uses of the connection, such as operating system and application updates on all devices in the household, downloads of purchased video games, web surfing, YouTube, and video chat with relatives in another state.

  12. Re:Really??! by Uberbah · · Score: 2

    You mean using the product he paid for, oh corporate bootlicking AC?

  13. Here's what happened when I signed up for Comcast by sabbede · · Score: 3, Informative
    This was about three years ago now, and I since moved to an area they don't operate.

    Anyhow, I went to their local office to sign up for service and get my equipment. I asked the rep specifically and in no uncertain terms, "is there a data cap?" The answer was no. To be sure, I explained what I meant - some limit over which I would be charged extra. The answer was still no. This was in June.

    In December, I got an email announcing the "great news" that the cap was being raised from 250 to 300GB! So I called them and pointed out that this was complete and total BS, as I had been assured that no cap existed, so they weren't actually raising it they were creating it. The response was, "Oh, there was always a cap, we just didn't enforce it." I asked who was lying to me, the person telling me there was always a cap, or the manager at the service location. Not receiving an answer, I suggested they fuck themselves, sideways, with a chainsaw. Several later calls ended the same way.

    I stopped peering linux and other 100% legitimate torrents just in case. I got a call one month that I was exceeding the cap, and had another long phone battle and had to threaten to take it up with the FTC to get them to waive it. I again recommended chainsaw insertion several times. Most conversations I had with Comcast involved that recommendation, as well as pointing out how they lied to me on several occasions.

    My new provider, Charter, makes "No Cap" part of their marketing. They have yet to lie to me about anything. Comcast did try to extract an "early cancelation" fee from me when I moved, despite the fact that I made every effort to retain the service, and it was they who broke the contract by refusing to provide service at my new address. Also, when I told them I was moving, I told the woman they better not try to charge such a fee after I made a good faith effort to continue service. She said they wouldn't, since it was their fault and not mine. I was then transferred to someone who said, "$250". They appear to have dropped it.

    Comcast lies. The way they do business is abhorrent, and it needs to stop. If someone is filing a class action suit, let me know. I want in.

  14. Re:Really??! by sabbede · · Score: 2

    No, if I'm paying for 75 megabits per second, and using it, I'm getting what I paid for. The monthly total is irrelevant.