Second Gen Moto 360 Men's and Women's, Fitness-Oriented Moto 360 Sport Unveiled

MojoKid writes: Motorola's first generation Moto 360 smartwatch was one of the first Android Wear smartwatches to hit the market, and because of its round display, became the immediate flag bearer for the Android Wear platform. As new competition has entered the fray — including entries from Apple with the Apple Watch and Samsung with the Gear S2 — Motorola is announcing a second generation smartwatch that solves most of the complaints of the previous model. Motorola has ditched the archaic Texas Instruments OMAP 3 processor in the original Moto 360. The new second generation Moto 360 brings a more credible 1.2GHz, quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 processor and Adreno 305 graphics to the table. You'll also find 512MB of RAM and 4GB of storage. And if you didn't like the largish dimensions of the previous Moto 360, you'll be glad to know that Motorola is offering two sizes this time around. There's a 46mm diameter case that comes with a 360x330 display and a smaller 42mm diameter case that houses a 360x325 display. Motorola has also introduced a dedicated women's model of the Moto 360 which features a 42mm diameter case and accepts smaller 16mm bands. As for battery life, Motorola says that the men's and women's 42mm models comes with a 300 mAh battery which is good for up to 1.5 days of mixed use, while the 46mm watch comes with a larger 400 mAh battery which is good for up to 2 days on charge.

Comments

Republican love their watches...

[Anonymous Coward]

but it just doesn't seem like there's enough of them around to make an expensive watch a viable product. Even Apple's watch sells have plummeted.

Still no actually round screen?

[SirJorgelOfBorgel]

From the pictures, it seems the screen still isn't really round, but has a straight section at the bottom just like the old version.

If that ends up to be the release, then it's a no go for me. Looks absolutely terrible.

Then again, I don't wear watches anyway, and if I did, it'd be a classic, not some smart toy. I'm not Hasselhoff, I don't need to talk to my car.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[Anonymous Coward]

Same here. I was so looking forward to this, but... not with a flat tyre. Nope nope nope.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[heezer7]

As long as you use a black background watch face you don't even notice it after you get over your initial hatred.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[shellbeach]

From the pictures, it seems the screen still isn't really round, but has a straight section at the bottom just like the old version.

This was discussed with the release of the original 360. IIRC, current display tech necessitates some non-display area, and Motorola decided (rightly, in my opinion) to go with the flat-tyre approach rather than the chunky-bezels approach. The LG G-watch R is an example of the latter approach, with bezels blown out of all proportion (although LG clearly don't understand watch design so I suspect that one looks worse than it had to).

Then again, I don't wear watches anyway, and if I did, it'd be a classic, not some smart toy.

I do wear watches, and I wear classic ones; there's something about mechanical movements that strongly appeals to my steampunk side. Like you, I wouldn't buy a smartwatch; I have no need for notifications on my wrist and it would go against my personal grain. But I have to say that so far Motorola has understood the "watch" concept better than any of the other smartwatch players -- the Moto360 actually looks great on the wrist.

I'm not Hasselhoff, I don't need to talk to my car.

Hey, if it came with KITT I might seriously consider it ... :)

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[Tomahawk]

Hey, if it came with KITT I might seriously consider it ... :)

I wouldn't - not until they fix the flat-tyre look... that really is a deal breaker. For me, it destroys the whole look of the watch.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[shellbeach]

Yes, well, KITT with a flat-tyre would be a bad combo ...

But having seen the watch in the flesh (it, with the apple watch, are the only two smartwatches I've ever seen in the wild) I can only say I didn't notice the flat-tyre look at all when coupled with a dark watch face. Horses for courses, naturally, but I liked the watch in person a whole lot more than in the renders.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[Anonymous Coward]

you are a fucking idiot.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[DrXym]

I don't get why they'd do this either. It's a horrible design flaw to have a round face but not actually have a screen that fills it. It's reminiscent of Qualcomm's Toq watch which had a similar non-functional strip.

Of course it's not the only problem for these watches. Virtually all smart watches lack a fundamental reason for being, sucking at the basics whatever else functionality they claim to implement.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[AmiMoJo]

Sony is releasing an interesting smart watch next year: https://first-flight.sony.com/...

It has an analogue face with proper hands. No LCD screen at all. That part has its own battery that will run for 5 years. Then it has a separate smart section with its own battery, rated for five days use. This part has Bluetooth, a notification LED, pedometer and NFC for contactless payments.

If it wasn't so expensive and iOS only I'd love a smart watch like that. Maybe upgrade the pedometer to a heart rate monitor. Give it a year or two and I'm sure I'll get my wish.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[DrXym]

The Huawei watch (launched yesterday too) has a similar style watch without the same issue. So I don't really buy the argument that Motorola could do nothing to rectify the fault with some minor design changes. The 360 watch just looks wrong the way it is.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[DrXym]

Casio have been doing bluetooth enabled watches for several years now. They use an always-on LCD display, run years before needing new batteries and offer some limited phone connectivity via a low power bluetooth protocol.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[shellbeach]

Not sure about that -- if you look closely at the pics of the Huawei watch you'll see that the body extends out towards the lugs quite a bit. I suspect the extra tech is hidden in those chunky bits. The G watch R has the same styling; and whilst that could just indicate that Huawei and LG have no design smarts (which is often true) I'd be a little surprised that the two companies independently hit on the exact same ugliness by chance.

I suspect that at the moment some compromise has to be made: you can have a flat tyre, you can have a giant bezel, you can have chunky bits-that-aren't-lugs. One thing I'd be pretty certain about, though, is that Motorola didn't go with the flat tyre look just for kicks.

Here's an old article about Moto's design choices if you're interested.

Re:Still no actually round screen?

[DrXym]

That's why I say minor design changes. Maybe 3-4mm at the base would fix the issue. I'm quite certain most people would prefer that (assuming its designed well) would prefer that to dead space on their screen.

Tizen wins still

[Billly Gates]

Moto 360 can't take calls and doesn't have a big screen like the Saumsung watch

Re:Tizen wins still

[markdavis]

>Moto 360 can't take calls and doesn't have a big screen like the Saumsung watch

1) It is a watch, not a phone.
2) It is not proprietary like Samsung stuff, but open... using Wear
3) The screen is plenty big enough

Re: Tizen wins still

[Anonymous Coward]

have you ever taken a call on a smartwatch? let me tell you, it's a pita. bad speaker quality and holding your arm up gets tiring pretty fast. unless you want to lean against a doorframe like a tired drunk.

Re:Tizen wins still

[Billly Gates]

My coworker swears by his. It is a pita to grab a phone out of your pocket to take a call. He can be busy working on a computer or driving and still take calls and answer emails. A good watch is a cell phone replacement

WOW! Two days!

[fustakrakich]

Blah! C'mon people! Get your shit together and make the fucking planet livable for all of us, okay? Then we can all play with our little trinkets.

Smartwatches are gimmicks (for now anyway)

[Anonymous Coward]

The problem is that these watches don't do anything more than your phone already does and for the most part you need your phone with you anyway! Moving personal computing from a desktop/laptop to a smartphone was great because the difference is that you always have it with you and it's always connected, wherever you are you can take it out and use it where you can't exactly whip your laptop while you're walking down the street. With smartwatches the only advantage is you can do some of the smartphone things without taking it out of your pocket, sales are demonstrating that this gimmick is wearing off.

Re:Smartwatches are gimmicks (for now anyway)

[afgam28]

I used to think so too, but then I got one as a gift and started wearing it. There were a few things that I then found out were nice:

- Android Wear devices can unlock your Android phone for you, so you don't have to enter your password/pin/pattern every time. This by itself is so compelling that I'd wear a smart bracelet with just this feature if it was available.

- You can use your watch to ring your phone, if you lose it under the couch or something.

- It's actually very convenient to be able to glance at messages/emails when they arrive without having to pull out a phone. You can archive them then and there if it's not important (very useful if you're trying to do Inbox Zero) or respond using voice recognition if it's something short (very useful when driving).

It's not a life-altering step forward like the original iPhone was, but not every new device needs to change the world and disrupt everything. As long as it provides value to some niche, then it's a good thing to have on the market.

Re:Smartwatches are gimmicks (for now anyway)

[tobiasly]

Android Wear devices can unlock your Android phone for you, so you don't have to enter your password/pin/pattern every time. This by itself is so compelling that I'd wear a smart bracelet with just this feature if it was available.

Android (4.1+?) can do that with any Bluetooth device -- your watch, your car, your home soundbar, any device that you trust is not likely to get stolen at the same time as your phone. I'm sure there are cheap fitness tracker bracelets out there with bluetooth that would do the trick if that's what you're looking for.

Still not getting the point of these things

[Karmashock]

I mean... if I have a smartphone... and I have to have one to make this thing work... why do I need/want it? its just another thing I have to recharge every day.

I have three things I have to recharge every day. Three. Not including living things which sort of need to be recharged but... lets skip over that.

But I have three every day and that's quite enough thank... actually... hmmm... no, four... four things. That's quite enough thank you.

So lets just drop the smart watch thing for now. What I'd actually like to see are some better battery charging accessories. I know there are a lot of those but I'd like to see more. One thing I want to see more of is wearable batteries that self charge by wearing them. I know they exist but I think they're expensive and don't work well and maybe look stupid. Fix these things. Make the cost reasonable for the return, make them work better, and while you're at it make me not get shunned by the rest of society so I suffer gene death simply because I don't want to have to worry about where I'm charging my whatever.

Once we have the wearing able self charging battery... I don't have to worry about charging all this shit. It just charges when I carry it/wear it.

Re:Still not getting the point of these things

[aNonnyMouseCowered]

Partial solution to the charging problemo is wireless charging. Somebody should invent wireless charging desk or desk covers where you just dump all your gizmos, and voila, you wake up and they're ready to go. Another solution is eInk screens similar to the one used by the Kindle and Kobo, although I suspect the SOC or SIP (system in a package) is the bigger drain on the battery. So the processing unit is probably the one that needs to be made more energy efficient rather than simply adding more juice to the battery.

Re:Still not getting the point of these things

[Karmashock]

We can see from the pebble its actually that pretty high res screen that is draining your battery.

The processing is mostly offloaded on the smartphone and the bluetooth etc is pretty energy efficient. Its the screen. Put one of those e-ink displays on it and I betcha it lasts for a week on a single charge.

As to dumping all my shit on some sort of charging mat. I still need to leave it on that mat while it charges. Not a fan. Yes I have to sleep and stuff but I frequently need to be out and about using my hardware for well beyond its battery life. And that necessitates me using mobile charging by having a little battery I plug into my phone and charge it WHILE I USE IT.... Happens all the time. I have a backpack which is my male purse effectively... and in there is a battery pack. and when I need my phone or whatever to not shit and die on me while I'm doing things. I throw my phone in the bag with battery and it tops the phone up while it is in there.

Here is the REAL wearing able device that every smartphone should actually have...

STEREO BLUETOOTH HEADPHONES!!!! :D

I've been using them for years and years. It means I can throw my cellphone in my bag and if someone calls me... I press a button on the headset and boom... "harrow there?" And it has the virtue of not making me look like an idiot which is what the earpiece bluetooth sets do. You look like a pretentious idiot with a one ear model. Because you're signaling to the world that you're so important that people are calling you constantly to talk to you and so you just need to have this thing on your ear at all times. Even if that is actually true... you look like a jackass.

HOWEVER... if you have the stereo bluetooth headset you possibly are listening to music or whatever. No pretense. Just a guy walking around enjoying life.

And that is what I use. And it means I put my stupid phone in the stupid bag with the giant stupid battery and I don't have to worry about it ever running out of power because I can have all the radios on my phone operating all day long on that battery and it won't even drain half of it. Its genius.

So why do I need the fucking watch again? To tell me the time? This implies that there are not clocks around me at all times telling me the time. My computer that I'm staring at right now is telling me the time. My microwave tells me the time. The damn clock on the wall tick tick ticks the time. I don't need anything to tell me the time because I already have a zillion things telling me the fucking time.

And if I didn't... I'd still have my smartphone which would tell me the time in about 5 seconds which is how long it take me to look at it in my backpack.

So... what is this smart watch doing for me?

Because I'm seeing two things and two things only.

1. Its a toy. WEE toys! :D FUN.

2. Its a status symbol to tell everyone how fucking amazing I am because I bought a smart watch. Which to me, sounds like a bug cited as a feature. I mean... you might as well put the fucking mono bluetooth ear piece back in... And here you might say "but there are good status symbols and bad ones"... Yes... BMW good... Doctor's stethoscope good... giant diamond ring good... secret service escorts where ever you go good... notice something here? All the "good" status symbols actually cost something in money or accomplishment. The gold iwatch or whatever it is called that costs 10,000 dollars is a status symbol sort of... I can't almost understand that one. But the cheaper watches? Ehm... that's like saying an xbox is a status symbol. It isn't an impressive one. You can't have cheap status symbols. And yes... if it costs less than months or ideally years of income of a high income individual then it isn't much of a status symbol. Unless you're a broke hipster and keep throwing shit on yourself from a thrift store and pretend that you're wearing it ironically and not because you're actually that poor.

Where am I going with all this? I don't see the

Re: Still not getting the point of these things

[unami]

it's a non-issue. you take your watch off when you go to sleep anyway and snap the magnetic charger on to your bedside table onto it. it's not like a smartphone where you first have to take your phone out of your pocket or have to find your phone (with the help of your smartwatch) in the first place. the watch is on your wrist anyway, so this adds about 2 seconds to your "lights out" routine. actually, it's good that you have to recharge it every day (or every 2nd, if you pull an overnighter), because its regularly. if the watch battery were to last 7-10 days, you'd have to watch for the battery. as for the usage case of the watch: -quick glances after a short vibration only a wrist-flick away vs. hearing an annoying sound, pulling your phone out of your pocket, opening the case, if you have one, unlocking the phone, look at notification, do some other stuff, while you're at it, locking the phone, putting it back in your pocket. -have a remote always on your wrist -never have to hear your phones beeps, rings and dings again -generally, do short stuff (set a timer, dictate a message, set a calendar entry...) faster and less obtrusive & engrossimg than with a phone it's not that you need a smartwatch, but it's damned convenient to have one. it's like having a microwave or a dishwasher. you can't do anything with it, you can't already do with your oven or sink and they also need space, power and cleaning. but it's still nice to have them.

Re: Still not getting the point of these things

[Karmashock]

I'll have to take your word for it. It looks like a toy to me still.

Re:Still not getting the point of these things

[LaurenCates]

Nobody's making you buy one. You can ignore it if it doesn't meet your needs.

Re:Still not getting the point of these things

[Karmashock]

I know, I was just saying I didn't get it.

Maybe I'm the guy that doesn't get the point of underwear... I don't know... I just look at those things and think... "why?"... notifications?... of what? Emails/texts/tweets? Meh.

Re:Still not getting the point of these things

[tehcyder]

So why do I need the fucking watch again? To tell me the time? This implies that there are not clocks around me at all times telling me the time. My computer that I'm staring at right now is telling me the time. My microwave tells me the time. The damn clock on the wall tick tick ticks the time. I don't need anything to tell me the time because I already have a zillion things telling me the fucking time.

How about when you take the dog out for a walk? Or go to the pub with your friends? Or in a shop? Or you're camping at a music festival?

Yes, I know you can use a phone instead of a watch in these situations, but some of us don't like either leaving a phone in front of us while we're socialising, or having to take it out of your pocket to tell the time when it's easier to glance discreetly at your watch.

Re: Still not getting the point of these things

[tehcyder]

actually, it's good that you have to recharge it every day (or every 2nd, if you pull an overnighter), because its regularly. if the watch battery were to last 7-10 days, you'd have to watch for the battery

Yeah, it's a feature, not a bug. Sure.

Re:Still not getting the point of these things

[Karmashock]

This is pocket watch and wrist watch versus just pocket watch.

You'd prefer to carry around a pocket watch AND a wrist watch... I would rather just carry around one and since he wrist versions all need the pocket version... I'll just keep the pocket version.

TL;DR version

[Gravis Zero]

It still sucks.

Easy way to differentiate

[PopeRatzo]

I'm glad there are smart watches and people who will wear them. It's an easy way for me to identify douches.

It's like Google Glass without the surveillance, but with all of the douchiness left in.

Re:Easy way to differentiate

[Anonymous Coward]

I can tell you are a douche because you are a faggot.

Re:Easy way to differentiate

[Anonymous Coward]

Look in the mirror, douchebag....

Re:Easy way to differentiate

[markdavis]

I would so mod you down if I could. Your view is completely narrow and whacked. Wearing a watch is *nothing* like wearing Glass.

Watch?

[rossdee]

I haven't worn a (wrist) watch for decades.

Re:Watch?

[tehcyder]

I haven't worn a (wrist) watch for decades.

Agreed, a proper hunter on a gold chain in your waistcoat pocket is the only suitable timepiece for a gentleman.

It's just handy

[SuperKendall]

First of all - three things? I charge the Apple Watch watch every day, my phone every other day or so, sometimes more.

That's like one or two a day.

I guess you might mean a laptop, but it's not like you really have to remember that generally since it just gets plugging in when I get home to attach to a larger external monitor. But that would still be three at most.

Anyway, as to why the Apple Watch is useful - it's just handy.

There's not one thing that's amazing. But It's nice to see notifications a little quicker, and to know they were important enough to make it to the watch instead of just the phone. It's just a little quicker to see who is calling or messaging me. It's just a little quicker to respond to people. It's just a bit nicer to be reminded to get up and stretch every hour or so instead of getting lost deep in the fog of the computer.

It's many little things, none of which are amazing as I said - but together they are enough that I find the device worth carrying with me, and am sad if I forget to wear it for the day.

Note that I said the Apple Watch at the start of that, because although the Pebble Time has some nice features in a week of using it I didn't get the same useful vibe from it. And even though the applications for the Apple Watch are a bit primitive now, the App Market for the Pebble is much more scarce in terms of useful apps.

Re:It's just handy

[markdavis]

>Note that I said the Apple Watch at the start of that, because although the Pebble Time has some nice features

I don't disagree with your posting, but I am puzzled as to why you are going on about the Apple and Pebble watches, when the topic is the Moto 360. You weren't replying to anything, so it seems a bit odd.

Re:It's just handy

[Karmashock]

As to notifications quicker... notifications of what?

My phone beeps when it gets a text or something and I'll take it out if it isn't already in my pocket. Takes between two and five seconds depending on if I've had to charge it in my backpack. I do that about once a week.

As to the pebble being inferior... if notifications are the thing you care about, I would think the pebble has you covered there.

What does the iwatch do that the pebble doesn't?

I say this as someone that owns neither.

I think these things are toys and I don't take them seriously.

Re:It's just handy

[SuperKendall]

The original poster was saying smart watches are not useful at all, so I gave him information about two I have direct experience with. I do not have enough direct experience with the 360 over weeks to provide the same level of informed opinion.

Re:It's just handy

[SuperKendall]

Takes between two and five seconds depending

And with a smart watch it takes less. With a notification that appears only on my phone and not my watch that goes to zero depending on context, because it means something I can look at much later.

It also can be a matter of minutes difference between walking and driving somewhere, but people still drive, take taxis, buses, etc.

if notifications are the thing you care about, I would think the pebble has you covered there.

Two problems:

1) There is no filter, the pebble gets all notifications. That is useful but not AS useful - as I said I really like the layer of notification processing, so only really important notifications reach the watch.

On Android that is different and they allow you to choose what notifications go through.

2) The Pebble screen is not very readable at all in a lot of indoor areas, so even with it being quicker to see actually being able to read it takes longer than it takes to pull out a phone.

But notifications are just one small aspect of the many small things that makes a smart watch useful overall, so to focus on problems with any one aspect doesn't help you understand anything much. It's like you are saying that because the elephants toenail is untidy, it can never carry much weight...

I think these things are toys and I don't take them seriously.

Your loss. I think of them as tools and use them in ways that improves my life. Dismissing newer technology as toys is one way to get easily blindsided by wide acceptance and implications thereof.

Here are the differences

[markdavis]

I have been wearing it for a year, hardly ever notice the slice at the bottom of the screen. And I know several people who also have the 360 and none of them really notice or care. Having the light sensor that goes with it is FAR more important, trust me. I would love to have BOTH a light sensor and no cut out to go along with the tiny bezel, but that is still just not really possible.

If I could have any change for the 360, it would be either thinner or always-on display (for non-sport). The 360.2 offers neither. Everything else is fine in the first version (display res, battery life, speed, charging, style, reliability, functionality, etc). The 360.1 has been a really solid and decent smart watch.

Here is my take on the changes coming with the 360.2 from what I could gather from different sources:

Better
* Faster processor
* More cores
* Higher resolution
* Lugs for better looks and easier band changing
* Three sizes: Same men's 46mm dia, new men's smaller 42mm dia version with wide band, and women's 42mm with narrow band.
* Larger battery (in the 46mm version only)
* Moved button for easier access
* Sport version with hybrid, transflective, always-on display

Same
* Same storage & memory :)
* Same light sensor and other sensors :)
* Same bluetooth and WiFi :)
* Same thickness :(
* Same wireless charging :)
* Same lack of speaker :|
* Same display tech, except sport version :|
* Android Wear :)
* Small bezel with angled cut glass :)
* Same tiny slice on bottom of display for light sensor :|

Other
* Stone leather band not available for men :(
* Lack of always-on-display version for non-sport (bummer)
* Unknown weights
* Unknown availability of sport version- non-sport preorders now

Not sure if I will upgrade from the 360.1 to the 360.2 or not. I am quite happy with the first version at this point. The new features are compelling enough for me, but I was hoping for either an always-on screen or a thinner watch. Since I don't do "sports watches" (plastic/silicone=gross), I would have neither improvement. I could go for the SMALLER men's (since I can't have thinner), which would likely be less stress on my wrist (CTS), but smaller = harder to read for my older eyes, and I wouldn't gain the extra battery (not that I really need it- almost 2 days is more than enough right now). But they also dropped the color band I want (stone grey). Decisions, decisions....

Re:Here are the differences

[F.Ultra]

Thanks for the first informative post to this article!

Myself I first also scoffed at the idea of a SmartWatch and thought that I never would use one. But then my employer gave us all a Moto360 as Christmas present last Christmas and I have now noticed that when I walk outside and have forgot the watch I really really miss it. Every time the phone pings that there is a mail or sms to read I look at my arm and realise that the watch isn't there at the moment :)

Missing one aspect... thinner

[horza]

I'm quite happy with the "flat tyre" on the 360 considering what it gives in return. It's still too thick though. I can see why people will buy it though. I will hold out for gen 3.

Phillip.

36 hours?

[Lisandro]

I know the has been beaten to death, but this is still an abysmal battery life for a watch. Even the Pebble, which sacrificed "smartness" for battery performance, still struggles to reach 4 days on a charge.

For a device you're intended to wear i find this unacceptable and limits the usefulness of smart watches pretty much to urban environments only. We're a far cry away from having solar smart watches or miniature long-lasting batteries.

Re:36 hours?

[markdavis]

Yes, it HAS been beaten to death.

The 360.1 and .2 have at least 24 hours and usually far more hours of battery life per charge with normal use. When I get home from work after 9 hours off the charger, it usually has about 75% battery remaining.

As long as you can go a waking day (16-18 hours) on a charge, it doesn't matter. You charge your phone every day, so you charge your watch every day. Put it on the charger before bed.

No big whoop. I have used the 360.1 for a year. Not ONCE have I ever needed to charge it more than once in a 24 hour period. Oh, and if you really did have to charge it and put it back on (can't imagine why) charging it is very fast- like 20 min to 80% or something.

Re:36 hours?

[Lisandro]

It is kind of a big whoop - there's plenty of use cases for a watch that require more than a days worth of juice. Ever took a long flight?

I'm not a hater. I can see a lot of interesting use cases for a smart watch. But it is a watch nevertheless, and 1.5 days of usability is awful for something you're supposed to wear to read the time every now and then.

Re:36 hours?

[tehcyder]

You charge your phone every day, so you charge your watch every day. Put it on the charger before bed.

You are presumably too young to remember when phones lasted a couple of weeks before needing to be charged.

People are prepared to accept the sacrifice to get the goodies on a smartphone, but that doesn't make it acceptable on a watch.

Re:36 hours?

[markdavis]

>You are presumably too young to remember when phones lasted a couple of weeks before needing to be charged.

Hardly. Let's say I have watched times from NO cell phones until now.

>People are prepared to accept the sacrifice to get the goodies on a smartphone, but that doesn't make it acceptable on a watch.

It isn't a sacrifice to place the watch on a charger pad instead of placing it not on a charger pad when one takes it off before going to bed.