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Science Teacher Arrested After Crashing Drone At US Open

An anonymous reader writes: We all had that science teacher growing up — the one who took his classroom experiments a little too far. The one with the potato cannon. The one who made you wonder how he didn't get into trouble in his spare time. Well, it's finally happened for one science teacher from New York City. The 26-year-old man was arrested last night after he crashed a drone into some empty seats at the U.S. Open. He was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless operation of a drone, and operating a drone in a New York City public park outside a prescribed area for doing so. Nobody was injured, but the drone did fly through the arena while a pair of tennis players were in the middle of a match. The game was briefly interrupted when the drone crashed.

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  1. One more reason we need restrictions on drones... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Idiots like this are why "we can't have nice things"

    Privacy issues aside, morons like this are why the drone-boys are going to be facing some new laws in the not-so-distant future.

  2. He was "found at a marina"?? by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What was he doing, going around saying "Anyone seen my drone?". Why didn't he toss the controller into the water get the hell out of there with a sign off to the class of "Thats what happens when you don't concentrate kids. Now everyone into the bus, fast!"

  3. Ignorant fucking asshole by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Douches like this prick are why we can't have nice things.

    I fly all sorts of RC aircraft, Quads, fixed wing plane's, Helis, even a flying lawn mower (model, not actually a lawnmower) and I've been doing it for 25 years and never has there been an issue of people getting upset about it until recently.

    You know why? Cheap electronics introducing artificial stability at a price that allows any fucking moron without the slightest clue to buy one and manage to fly it for more than 10 seconds. Before artificial stability (i.e. before there was any hope of an RC quadcopter), pricks like this would have bought one, flown it for 10 seconds, crashed it in his front yard and that would be the end of it because he wouldn't be willing to spend that money again for another 10 seconds of flight time until he learned to fly. He'd never learn to fly because he's not bothering to try, he's just throwing it in the air without understanding how/why/when its going to come down and what effects thats going to have on others.

    When I see assholes like this, I tell them to get their fucking quad out of the air immediately or I'm calling the cops, and I've called them twice, the last for some asshole flying over a high school football game. Guy was a software dev at a large tech company, should fucking know better and understand that a 5 pound object falling on your head from even 10 feet above is WAY beyond potentially lethal.

    So take this worthless fuck out back, string him up by his testicles and keep him the fuck out of RC * so he doesn't fuck it up for the rest of us.

    This shit is why the FAA cares, and I'm 100% with them on it. I don't want additional laws, but this is a real problem in a new arena that previously had barriers to entry that kept idiots out. The modern flight controllers (which I use and love) are like exploit kits for script kiddies. They give ability to do something without the tempering that comes with learning how to do it 'the hard way', or understanding the consequences of what you're doing.

    I don't have a good solution to this problem because the problem is caused by adults who haven't grown up yet or are too selfish/ignorant to care and those are problems we've been dealing with since the beginning of time without solving, but it does have to be addressed, which problem means I'm going to get screwed in the process.

    I can not stress this statement enough: The guy flying that drone was an ignorant fucking asshole. 50 lashes wouldn't be enough.

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    1. Re:Ignorant fucking asshole by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You know why?

      I think a big part of it is because the guys who flew RC aircraft over the years have been serious hobbyists and not "I bought this on Amazon" goofballs.

      I walk my 15 year old dog near a park where a lot of these guys fly their rigs. I've never met one who wasn't thoughtful about what he was doing and respectful of others' safety. They don't fly over the kid's playground, they don't fly over the traffic on the surrounding streets. They're human beings. A lot of them bring their kids and teach them the same appropriate behavior, while getting the kids interested in a cool hobby.

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    2. Re:Ignorant fucking asshole by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Ah, so people who can't afford an expensive hobby should still get to do the hobby anyway, just irresponsibly?

      It's a dumb argument anyway, because most people don't have a front lawn into which they can crash their aircraft. Talk about an ivory tower perspective! If they didn't have stability software, then they'd be buying a heli or a plane without stability software, and then taking it to a public park or a school (commonly the nearest open field to a person's house) for their first flight. And they could well harm someone then. Instead, people are taking their first flights with their quads at home, because you can feasibly do that. They're running a greater risk of personal injury or property damage as a result, and odds are greater that they will learn to fly without crashing into things before they go out into public.

      No, the only real difference is the cost barrier is vanishing. Forget all that jazz about stability software; you can literally buy a complete hand-launched glider, all the electronics, and a charger (because you're going to want to run the electronics on a little bitty LiPo for weight reasons) for under $200. A decent radio used to cost that much but now it's only around thirty bucks for a 2.4 GHz 6ch and the programming cable from HK. You can buy a quad off the shelf for about that as well. People were careful with their big fancy RC models back in the day because they built them and tuned them and made them work, and they were expensive. Today's models are cheap. Without that barrier to entry, a whole new class of yahoo may participate.

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    3. Re:Ignorant fucking asshole by bigpat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure, but the charge should have been trespassing or something like that. The drone hit some seats. This isn't like having a gasoline fight at a gas station kind of reckless.

  4. It's idiots like this... by neilo_1701D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Selfish idiots like this are going to ruin the hobby for all of us. The FAA rules are pretty clear: 5 miles of an airport, nowhere near stadiums.

    Quads fall out of the sky. A motor fails, a battery unexpectedly dies (or explodes), a sensor goes haywire... the number of things that can cause a quad to quit working is endless. If something quits, it drops like a stone - and a responsible pilot know that.

    I hate the idea of an R/C license... but if it keeps the selfish idiots grounded then it's probably the way to go. Unfortunately.

    1. Re:It's idiots like this... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hate the idea of an R/C license... but if it keeps the selfish idiots grounded then it's probably the way to go. Unfortunately.

      Is this like how we keep drugs off the streets, guns out of the hands of criminals, and unlicensed drivers off the road?

      How many times...

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  5. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...

    It wasn't harmless.

    A quad with any camera worth a shit on it is going to weigh in at 5-10 pounds minimum. A drop of even 10 feet, at 5 pounds, onto your head, with any sort of good sharp edge ... your skull is going to be split open. This is a simple matter of physics. Gravity does all the work. The propellers aren't what you're afraid of, its one of the support arms or screws jabbing into your brain that you should be worried about.

    There are many many many ways it can hurt you in that fall that don't involve a lethal injury that you wouldn't enjoy at all either.

    You don't need explosives for a quad to be lethal, this idiot was more than enough to seriously wound or kill someone due to nothing more than shear ignorance.

    Best part ... he's a fucking science teacher who should understand the basic laws of physics well enough to not do something this stupid.

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  6. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    If a drone is explosive, it's because the pilot is a terrorist.

    Or that Sony manufactured the battery.

  7. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Until a drone is constructed entirely out of fabric, there is no such thing as a "harmless" drone (and even a fabric drone can be dangerous in certain odd circumstances).

    This is something the drone-nuts don't seem to understand. At least model airplane enthusiasts understand that they are directing a rigid object at moderate speeds with (usually) open propellers rotating at high rpm. A proper understanding of what you are doing leads to some level of caution and respect for people around you. I have seen neither from any of these drone stories, not even the Amazon delivery one suggests that they will include safeguards to protect people from their drones.

  8. It's all about me! by sizzzzlerz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's the US Open, watched in person by thousands, and on TV by millions but rather than making it all about the tennis players, this dipshit feels that the Open should be all about him and his toys. So he flys his drone over the stadium and ends up crashing into some seats, causing a delay in the match-in-progress, lucky not to have hurt someone in the stands. He's yet one more example of an adolescent in adult form who is incapable of recognizing that this is not an appropriate place to play and not too overly concerned about its ramifications. Fines and a little jail time are exactly what he deserves.

  9. Re:One more reason we need restrictions on drones. by Capt.Albatross · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Idiots like this are why "we can't have nice things"

    Privacy issues aside, morons like this are why the drone-boys are going to be facing some new laws in the not-so-distant future.

    Furthermore, behavior like this gives us an idea of what would happen if 'flying cars' were ever readily available.

  10. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    A quad with any camera worth a shit on it is going to weigh in at 5-10 pounds minimum.

    I have a quad-copter with a 4MP camera, that is good enough to do roof / solar-panel inspections. It weighs less than one pound. The cell-phone-quality camera weighs two grams (about the weight of a penny). The only significant weight is the battery, and that can also be light if you are willing to sacrifice flight time.

  11. Re:One more reason we need restrictions on drones. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    morons like this are why the drone-boys are going to be facing some new laws in the not-so-distant future.

    He was arrested. Why do we need "new laws" when his behavior is already illegal under existing law?

  12. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    " shear ignorance"

    LOL

    Your entire post reads like a hysterical rant from an old man. That was just frosting on the cake!

  13. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    They don't make Nerf Drones yet?

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  14. Harmless mass: Harmful people by tomxor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It weighs less than one pound.

    :P Then i guess by "BitZtream's" definition: your quad copter isn't "worth a shit"

    This really has nothing much to do with drones or technology though, and everything to do with mass and stupidity... or is it mass stupidity?

    Replace "drone" with "heavy object" and "flight" with one or more of various other mechanisms available to give heavy objects gravitational potential energy and or momentum. This can be an idiot throwing rocks at people, a psychopath dropping pennies off the Eiffel Tower or a clumsy buffoon flying a heavy drone around in public... you can replace the things but not the people.

  15. Ah, science teachers by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My abiding memory of science teaching was the chemistry teacher who wanted to demonstrate the reactivity of phosphorous with air. He pulled a large stick of phosphorus (oxidised on the outside) out of a jar of water and carefully sliced off a small section. He then rushed to drop the rest of the stick back into the jar of water, but he missed and it bounced off the rim of the jar, landed on the table and promptly burst into flames and began to fill the room with fumes.

    Science!

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  16. Re:One more reason we need restrictions on drones. by selectspec · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Firearms are protected by the 2nd amendment. I am afraid drones are not. I guarantee in 10 years, to buy a drone you will have to...

    - mandatory background check
    - mandatory 3 hour online drone safety course that costs $100 and has to be renewed with a new course every 5 years
    - mandatory annual safety inspection of the drone that costs $50
    - mandatory national registration markings on the drone tied to you in a federal database

    No joke.

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  17. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2

    Just an idiot teacher with a harmless drone this time.

    The newspapers are revising the title of their story: "Teacher with a mostly harmless drone."

  18. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by HornWumpus · · Score: 3

    And you have never had a tuned pipe glow engine running 90%+ nitro-methane spinning a 9 inch propeller at 25kRPM+.

    It's a beautiful noise.

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  19. Re:Just a harmless drone this time by minstrelmike · · Score: 2

    ...Drone safety is a serious issue. Yes, next time it could be a terrorist with an explosive drone. Terrorism is a serious issue, regardless of ideology.

    You're obviously not paying attention. If it's a Christian American crazy (such as Timmy McVeigh), then we say it's just a crazy. If it's a Muslim crazy killer, then we say it's part of an international religion with one billion believers and we piss in our pants.

    It's a problem of social perspective which is _always_ based on ideology.