Slashdot Mirror


Rupert Murdoch Buys National Geographic Magazine

dywolf writes: In a move that has inspired "dread" among the publication's journalists, as well as long time readers, Rupert Murdoch has just bought a controlling interest in all of National Geographic's media properties. The move turns the long time non-profit into a for-profit media corporation in the process. Some commenters have pointed to Murdoch's previous collaboration with the National Geographic Society, the NatGeo TV channel, as well other once respected publications he has bought such as the Wall Street Journal, as an example of what to expect, and to explain their apprehension at the deal. This raises a question for reader KatchooNJ: As many of you likely know, Rupert Murdoch has famously not been quiet about his denial of climate change. National Geographic gives grants to scientists... so, is anything going to now change with the focus of National Geographic's organization?

23 of 286 comments (clear)

  1. Well by Forgefather · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "In a move that has inspired "dread" among the publication's journalists, as well as long time readers, Rupert Murdoch has just bought a controlling interest in all of National Geographic's media properties."

    Read this portion and knew that I had read all I needed to. A shame as I have subscribed to the magazine for quite some time.

    --
    "There are lies, there are damn lies, and there are statistics"
  2. The many into the few... by MagickalMyst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is just a continuation of the consolidation of media outlets into the hands of the few. Not really surprising. Real journalism is almost dead in the 21st century anyway.

    --
    Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.
  3. Grants? That is your worry? by s.petry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about the continued and extended monopolization and control of media? I find that much more disturbing, and would ask that the people petition the government to break up the monopolies.

    --

    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    1. Re:Grants? That is your worry? by cryptolemur · · Score: 4, Insightful

      GP is not asking more government, but that we, the people, use the power we have to protect ourselves against the sosiopathic corporations and individuals. Informed public is the very prerequisite of both working democracy and working markets. Centralized distribution and control of information is perpendicular to that -- see North Korea.

    2. Re:Grants? That is your worry? by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So what regulations are causing the consolidation of media brands, exactly?

      =Smidge=

    3. Re:Grants? That is your worry? by blue9steel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      More government is never the solution.

      Never covers a lot of ground. Sometimes government is the solution, and I say that as a registered Libertarian. Anyone who believes what you do is an anarchist, and likely a fool. Now, as to whether more government is the right solution in this situation, well that's a longer, more complicated conversation.

    4. Re:Grants? That is your worry? by deKernel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When they say "more government", that doesn't mean that it actually employs more people. they are talking about more power/authority to the government.

      I have no idea why they are selling, but imagine this. What if the controlling entity of Nat Geo wants to sell meaning it is not a hostile takeover, but the government says sorry, no deal (for whatever reason). Imagine if you owned a business and wanted to sell to the highest bidder, but the government steps in and says sorry, you have to sell to the lowest bidder because "we" think it is better. Do you really want that? Does that not open the door to abuse? I think it does.

    5. Re:Grants? That is your worry? by s.petry · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Slice it however you like, it's still a cake. More specifically, in either case the claim is incorrect. The Government already has the power to break up monopolies, and has already done so several times. The Sherman Act and Clayton Act ensured that the power was clearly defined.

      Going a bit further, I am extremely Libertarian minded. One of the few powers I believe the Government should have it to protect the public from monopolies and predatory behaviors money can bring about. You won't get me to rally for Government action on most issues.

      Your second paragraph would simply take too long to debate, but I completely disagree. In simple terms, the Press (Media) has a specific purpose which is clearly defined in the US Constitution. Monopolization prevents Media/Press from doing it's job and working _for_ the citizens.

      --

      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    6. Re: Grants? That is your worry? by rahvin112 · · Score: 4, Informative

      That rollback occurred during the Gringrich congress which had a veto proof Republican majority. I'm not sure on this particular bill but if it's like the others Clinton didn't have any say in the bill as the Vote was veto proof.

    7. Re:Grants? That is your worry? by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Imagine if you owned a business and wanted to sell to the highest bidder, but the government steps in and says sorry, you have to sell to the lowest bidder because "we" think it is better. Do you really want that?

      Imagine if your neighbour opens a toxic dump on his yard, but the government steps in and says sorry, you have to follow zoning laws because "we" think it is better. Do you really want that?

      You aren't the sole inhabitant of this world. Your actions affect other people, just like their actions affect you. And that means they will hold some say over them, either in the relatively benevolent form of a modern democratic government or in the time-tested form of assassination. Dislike it all that you want, just remember it's this same government enforcing claims of ownerships that lets you have something to sell in the first place, or a monetary system to receive the payment with for that matter.

      None of this means that the government should block the sale of National Geographic (nor that it shouldn't - it would take an impartial expert to investigate the likely effects to decide), just that "the owner wouldn't like the sale being blocked" is an irrelevant argument.

      --

      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

  4. National Geographic magazine lost all credibility by gweilo8888 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One only needs to watch the drek on the National Geographic channel -- an endless parade of shockumentaries and "reality" TV -- to see the lowest common denominator at which Rupert Murdoch is aiming. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we can also expect as the future of National Geographic Magazine. Loads of articles intended to shock, articles on the latest travels of the celebrities du jour, plenty of paid product placements, and precisely no actual science.

    Mourn for National Geographic magazine, ladies and gents, because it just died and the corpse will now be reanimated.

  5. Just the media part? by Berkyjay · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can someone verify this? I read somewhere last night (can't find the link) that he only bought the media portion of NatGeo. The non-profit part that runs the museum in DC and gives out research grants is still under the control of the NatGeo non-profit. They basically sold the media segment so that they could still continue operating as a research non-profit. But I could be wrong.

  6. Like a punch to the gut by Bayoudegradeable · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I grew up combing through my dad's huge collection of issues, reading and discussing the articles with my dad and pouring over the incredible maps that came with many issues. National Geographic atlases, in particular The Earth and Man, were a dear part of my childhood. That I am a geography teacher today is directly related to my love of maps and the world around me. And now I have to mourn the passing of a loved and respected pillar of learning. Climate change denial and preppers are all that await now.

    --
    Sig Registration Form 34c_766(a) submitted to Ministry of Signature Management. Approval pending.
  7. penetrating coverage by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    people are worried about this buyout and its usually because Murdoch owned fox news and the Wallstreet Journal slid hard right when they were bought by him,but i think its important to put this in perspective. hes a businessman.

    Ive seen upcoming articles, and they look promising. "Gazelles, harbingers of homosexual war on christmas" seems to tackle a subject in a fair and balanced manner. "Penguins, natures undercover abortion factories" and "pot smoking illegal immigrant peregrine falcon migrations" might sound a bit heavy handed but the cover art is very dynamic.

    --
    Good people go to bed earlier.
  8. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...will all the topless native women be on page 3 now?

  9. Re:Why the hate? by Todd+Palin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When the WSJ was sold the bias of the paper shifted not-so-subtly to the right. It may be a top-tier newspaper, but its bias clearly indicates it is a tool of the Murdoch empire.

    Comparing the WSJ to the Washington Post probably is appropriate since the Washington Post shares the right wing bias.

    The bottom line is that he owns way too many media outlets which tends to drown out other voices. The argument that any of his media outlets are truly independent is really a joke. They publish what he wants them to publish through direct, indirect, or implied influence. That is why the hate.

  10. Re:Science is so closed minded by SydShamino · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah no kidding. People who believe that dinosaurs and humans lived side-by-side 6000 years ago have been cast out of the archaeology community too, as have people who believe the earth is flat from the geography community and people who believe the sun revolves around the earth from the astronomy community. Where did open-mindedness go?

    --
    It doesn't hurt to be nice.
  11. Re:I also subscribe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not voting for them is kind of the point of royalty...

  12. WRONG by SEE · · Score: 5, Informative

    The linked article is unfortunately abbreviated and incomplete, and as a result, the conclusions being drawn are wrong.

    First off, the Society itself is still an independent non-profit. It just no longer has 100% ownership of the magazine. The effect on the Society is that it will have more money to give to scientists (while 21st Century Fox will have no say in how that money is handed out).

    Second, they did not sell a controlling interest; the Society explicitly retains 50% of the Board of Directors for the magazine. The "73%" is Fox's share of profits, not control.

  13. Re:National Geographic magazine lost all credibili by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One only needs to watch the drek on the National Geographic channel -- an endless parade of shockumentaries and "reality" TV -- to see the lowest common denominator at which Rupert Murdoch is aiming. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we can also expect as the future of National Geographic Magazine. Loads of articles intended to shock, articles on the latest travels of the celebrities du jour, plenty of paid product placements, and precisely no actual science.

    As I'm seeing discussion of this across the web, I'm starting to wonder how many people commenting have actually read National Geographic Magazine anytime in the last three decades. The level of science there has been steadily decreasing for a very long time - replaced slowly by adventure reporting not entirely unbiased "issue" reporting. On the other hand, the bias matches that of liberal/libertarian demographic that makes up a good part of the /. demographic, so it's probably been invisible to them. Which also explains why so many are mourning a mistaken image, rather than seeing it for the drek it has become. The science based National Geographic was bedridden by the 80's, comatose by the 90's, and has been on life support machines since the 00's.

    Just like Discover, Scientific American, and Omni before it.

    Why? Because real science is fucking boring, so boring that even those supposedly interested in it failed to notice it slipping away. It's no surprise to me that same demographic worships at the faux science altars of Mythbusters, Alton Brown, Bill Nye, and Niel DeGrasse Tyson - they want science, but only if it's tarted up, made entertaining, and reduced to sound bites they can pass around like cargo cultists. On Slashdot there's a constant refrain about the slipping position of science in American culture, and while it's often blamed on the conservatives and the Religious Right... Look to your mirrors and consider carefully the glass house in which you dwell.

    And, as usual, the truth will be modded down - because it hurts.

  14. Re:welcome to being "part of the problem" by Forgefather · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes actively filtering information to determine what is true and what is not is a valuable skill on the internet and one that I use regularly, but that is only useful when you are trying to evaluate opinions on complex issues.

    I will gladly sift through competing opinions to formulate my own opinion, but what I will not do is sift through bald faced lies to determine what is true and what is not just to get to the point of being able to form my own opinion. That is a waste of my time.

    --
    "There are lies, there are damn lies, and there are statistics"
  15. Re:Rupert Murdoch by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Funny

    In capitalist USA, fossils own National Geographic.

    --
    And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
  16. Re:National Geographic magazine lost all credibili by Spinalcold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's no surprise to me that same demographic worships at the faux science altars of Mythbusters, Alton Brown, Bill Nye, and Niel DeGrasse Tyson - they want science, but only if it's tarted up, made entertaining, and reduced to sound bites they can pass around like cargo cultists.

    I hate this being paroted around like it makes any point at all. It doesn't. You know who like to read science articles? Scientists. And just because a scientist knows physics does not mean they can understand all the jargon of biology, it NEEDS to be explained in a way that by-passes that specialized knowledge. And guess what? Some of us LIKE well written/explained concepts of complex topics, which is something most scientists lack the ability to do well. Most scientists don't take any writing classes and it shows, so if a well written article takes their ideas and explains it better than they can, I will prefer to read that, especially if it's in a field that I don't know well. Saying you don't like NDT or Bill Nye does NOT make you special, it makes you an elitist who doesn't understand that communication skills are an important part of the scientific process. Science does NOT exist in a vacuum, it is entwined in everything; politics, daily life, love, etc. Communicating that part of the world is important, and frankly we need more people that can explain scientific ideas to everyone--yes, other scientists as well--to make a better world.

    Sorry if that was not your intended point, but I hear this thing constantly and it really gets under my skin. I study physics but my understanding of biology is, frankly, atrocious; so I rely upon communicators to get a basic understanding of DNA processes. Shows like Quirks and Quarks make up a lot of my understanding of the current work in a lot of fields, hell, even a lot of the complexities of physics I need describes in a way that most scientists can't do.

    end rant.