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How Wind and Politics Pushed the Price of Texas Electricity Below Zero

Slate dissects the strange circumstances that led the price of electricity in Texas to briefly dip not just to zero, but into negative territory, reaching at one point negative $8.52 per megawatt hour. Why? A combination of being an "electricity island" with only weak ties to the surrounding state's grids; strong wind in a state that's sprouted thousands of windmills; and infrastructure design that means the only real buyer for most electricity producers' output is ERCOT, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas. (One of the comments attached to the story notes that Texas is not completely isolated from the national grid, but it's still markedly isolated.) A slice: Demand fell—at 4 a.m., the amount of electricity needed in the state was about 45 percent lower than the evening peak. The wind was blowing consistently—much later in the day Texas would establish a new instantaneous wind generation record. At 3 a.m., wind was supplying about 30 percent of the state’s electricity, as this daily wind integration report shows. And because the state is an electricity island, all the power produced by the state’s wind farms could only be sold to ERCOT, not grids elsewhere in the country.

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  1. Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wind farm owners get lots of taxpayer help paying for the construction of the wind farm, then forced production credits means they get paid if power is needed or not. Apply this to any generation technology and the result would be pretty much the same.

    The model is even worse in place where the grid is forced to purchase power a even higher rates.

    In this model, who pays for the reliable backup?

    1. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Informative

      Which is great news! Texas is ahead of the world now in being prepared for the huge increase in electricity usage that good electric cars will cause.

    2. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by bertoelcon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which is great news! Texas is ahead of the world now in being prepared for the huge increase in electricity usage that good electric cars will cause.

      That won't do much good though, Tesla still can't sell in Texas without going through a bunch of hoops for a dealership.

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    3. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Which is great news! Texas is ahead of the world now in being prepared for the huge increase in electricity usage that good electric cars will cause.

      Why? Because for a brief moment when electrical usage was at it very lowest (3 am, September day, little heating or cooling) and wind average is blowing at record highs they can supply 30 of demand? How is that world leading? They did accomplish showing how skewed the market had become, that is a form of leadership.

    4. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is not a problem with the generators. The main issue is that Texas regulation only allows selling to ERCOT. I'm sure that they would have loved to sell to someone in New Mexico, Oklahoma, Louisiana, or some other nearby state, even if it was for pennies. With a legislated single seller, there is no possibility to fix things, unless you want to legislate that ERCOT must buy electricity providing a fixed profit margin to the Wind generators

    5. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Sqr(twg) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nope. A negative price of electricity is not a sign that electricity is going to be cheap on average. On the contrary, it is a sign of poor infrastructure and heavy dependence on fossil fuel. (Coal and oil fired plants are expensive to take off-line, which is why the price of energy fluctuates wildly when the wind changes.) With better infrastructure and more hydro power, the price would not have fluctuated into negative, but would have been lower on average.

    6. Re: Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2

      Probably almost no heating, but still probably a lot of cooling. In mid-September, overnight temps in Texas are still above where most people set their thermostats, plus the house is still radiating heat collected during the day, some of which goes inward. Even with the thermostat set at 78 in a relatively young house (11 years) built with good insulation, here in Dallas the AC still comes on regularly throughout the night.

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    7. Re: Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      Just to enter some real numbers into the discussion, I checked ERCOT annual demand for 2014, Mid to late Sept early mornings show loads to be in the lowest 10% generally, with March and Oct early morning hours really being lower. So you are right, it is not the very lowest, but it is close.

    8. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Shoten · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wind farm owners get lots of taxpayer help paying for the construction of the wind farm, then forced production credits means they get paid if power is needed or not. Apply this to any generation technology and the result would be pretty much the same.

      The model is even worse in place where the grid is forced to purchase power a even higher rates.

      In this model, who pays for the reliable backup?

      Actually, this isn't true at all. Wind farm owners are participants in ERCOT like any other generation facility; if there's too much power on the grid, they are given directives to throttle down, even to zero if necessary. This applies whether the wind farm owners are a larger utility (like CPS Energy, Centerpoint, etc.) or a standalone entity with only wind farm generation.

      The reason behind this is simple; sink (also known as load) and generation must be in balance. You can't just "do" something with surplus power on the grid...it impacts both the voltage and the frequency of power. The second is the more frightening result, as over/underfrequency events do enormous damage to many different components of the bulk electric system. Even a difference of half a cycle (in power, a cycle is 1/60th of a second) is catastrophic.

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    9. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      You missed the part where this happened at 4AM.

      Electric cars can be pre-programmed to charge at any time. My wife has a Tesla, and hers is set to start charging at 2am. Our house has a smart-meter that records time-of-use, and our rates are lower at night.

    10. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by beelsebob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right, I mean, it's not like all these huge capitalist tech companies will adopt wind and solar until it's worth their while, and will please the share holders... Oh... wait, what's that? They all build giant solar farms next to their data centres because it's a hugely valuable investment?

      Well, damn...

    11. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you can afford a Tesla, you have no problem going a state over and buying them. I see plenty in Austin.

    12. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Forgefather · · Score: 4, Informative

      Speaking as someone who lived in Texas for 5 years. I saw more Teslas there than anywhere else I have traveled. Not being able to sell them in the state has done nothing to stop people from getting them. Every single grocery store has electric chargers out in front, as well as every apartment complex. Just on one street I could have had access to over 15 chargers. Electric cars were very popular in Dallas.

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    13. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Solandri · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you RTFA, the negative price is a consequence of a demand constraint (only ERCOT can buy the power) and a federal subsidy for wind generation. Normally when supply exceeds demand, the market price drops to below the cost to make some of that supply. It becomes not worth it to keep operating generators which are more expensive to run, and supply decreases to match demand.

      In this case though, there's a $23 per MWh federal subsidy for wind power. I dunno why the summary left that out since that's the most important piece to this puzzle. So even though wind producers are having to pay others $8.52 per MWh to take the electricity off their hands, they're still being paid $23 per MWh to produce it, for a net income of $14.48 per MWH. So they're still running their wind turbines at full even though the price is negative, because to them the price is still positive.

      The subsidy is the main reason the price went negative. The other reasons you cite contributed. The lack of power exchanges with other states meant the excess electricity couldn't be sent to other places where demand still outstripped supply. And the incentive to keep nuclear and coal operating (oil and gas can ramp up and down almost as easily as hydro) meant wind could push the price negative even though it was providing just 30% of the power. But the subsidy was the main culprit. If there were no subsidy, the wind turbine operators would've simply feathered their turbines and ceased production before the price went negative.

    14. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can't just "do" something with surplus power on the grid...

      Actually, you can and in Virginia we do. The Bath County Pumped Storage Station uses surplus power (from a nuclear plant) to pump water up into a reservoir to later be used to generate hydro power during high demand.

      Also see: The Inside Story Of The World’s Biggest ‘Battery’ And The Future Of Renewable Energy

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    15. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by budgenator · · Score: 2

      It would have been a good time to charge up BOB the Big 'Ol Battery in Presidio Texas; it probably takes 40MW/hrs to charge that sucker up.

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    16. Re: Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 2

      You can't buy them in Texas. You can buy them in a different state and take them back to Texas, though.

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    17. Re: Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      Its not anywhere close to 30 percent supply though, just meeting 30 percent capacity for a short peroid while demand was minimal. Not really impressive if you consider what it cost to accomplish.

    18. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      That's an experiment, not a reasonable solution that exists for widespread use today. Also, good luck finding hydroelectric facilities that can be used that way in Texas..

      Like the Wildflower Pump Storagein Southeast Oklahoma that will

      ... deliver power into three electrical grids: ERCOT (Electric Reliability Council of Texas), SPP (Southwest Power Pool) and MISO (Midcontinent Independent System Operator), providing peak power that will help reduce energy shortfalls as well as ancillary services.

      and the proposed Cedar Creek Pumped Storage Project for Briscoe, Armstrong and Randall counties

      You're correct that these opportunities are limited in Texas, but according to Texas State Energy Conservation Office:

      Annually Texas generates approximately 1 million megawatt-hours (MWh) of electricity directly from water resources via 675 MW of hydroelectric power capacity. This hydroelectric generation amounted to only 0.3% of the total electricity generation during 2007, and further development of feasible hydropower resources could result in approximately 4 more million MWh per year.

      But, the above does also note that:

      The use of Texas water resources together with other technologies that can exploit saline gradients between water sources is possible, but limited to several million MWh/yr.

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    19. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      You are half right and half wrong.

      The price went negative because the ERCOT *must* buy the power to keep the grid stable. Otherwise the surplus energy would cause the grid to crash.

      Behind that might be the market you explained ... but equally important are the laws of physics.

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    20. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by polar+red · · Score: 2

      > Wind farm owners get taxpayer help with constructi0n?
      FTFY :
      Wind and nuclear, and coal, and oil ... power plant owners get taxpayer help with constructi0n?

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    21. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by willy_me · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More like 5cents per kWh - or $50 per MWh? If so then the quoted $23 figure is quite reasonable.

    22. Re:Its all in the taxes and incentives. by mlts · · Score: 2

      Here in Austin, I see more Teslas than I do Leafs, however I am starting to see those BMW i3s start popping up.

      The one thing I wish Texas has, and Toyota doesn't sell them here are plug-in Priuses.

      I wouldn't be surprised to see things go forward and vehicles like pickup trucks start having hybrid drivetrains. For a one ton truck, electric motors will be very useful, especially because their torque is at peak at 0 RPM, and that is where it is needed for towing, and higher RPMs, the gasser or diesel engine can take it from there. Of course, there are practical uses too. Stick a heavy duty inverter that feeds from a truck's batteries, and now you don't need a generator or a PTO driven generator head for construction work in a rural area, or use the batteries for power (even A/C) as opposed to using a a generator.

      Or take a Volt and extend that concept, where the drivetrain and engine are electric, but there is a generator that can be of whatever fuel type the customer specifies which will fire on when the batteries get low. This way, only a relatively small subsystem needs changed when fuel needs change.

    23. Re: Its all in the taxes and incentives. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      The ultimate proof is on the bill. If power is selling for less now than it did in the past, it succeeded. End of story.

      It depends on your definition of success. Mine is making significant progress against CO2 emissions globally, in a sustainable manner. It is not having a low price on my power bill. I care about societal and systemic costs, not prices. So, if a power bill is artificially low due to heavy taxpayer assistance, then it might not be considered success by everyone.

  2. Of course by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Insightful
    One of the ongoing challenges with renewable sources of energy is the unpredictable nature of their production.

    There are many storage methods available for this excess energy.

    Seemingly concerned with the "Texas" angle, TFA fails to mention if this is a rare anomaly or worthy of storage development.

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    1. Re:Of course by Shoten · · Score: 3, Informative

      One of the ongoing challenges with renewable sources of energy is the unpredictable nature of their production.

      There are many storage methods available for this excess energy.

      Seemingly concerned with the "Texas" angle, TFA fails to mention if this is a rare anomaly or worthy of storage development.

      Coming from a career working in the power industry, I gotta tell ya...that Wikipedia entry is about experimental methods, not things meant to store energy on a bulk scale. Bulk storage is an end goal, but saying that "there are many storage methods available" is like saying we could have gone straight to the moon as soon as Yuri Gagarin got into orbit, or we could go to Mars today. It just isn't true.

      Yes, there are many approaches being experimented with, and some of them are very large facilities. No, none of them work as needed yet.

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    2. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Currently this is true, but the costs on batteries keep going down and as the battery producers ramp up production prices will drop even more. Things are going to get interesting more quickly than many realize:

      In our modeling for both The Economics of Load Defection from April 2015 and its predecessor, "The Economics of Grid Defection" from February 2014, our average battery price in 2015 was $547/kWh. Our models did not assume a price close to $350/kWh until 2022 (the $429/kWh price arrived in our models in 2018).

      This means Tesla’s batteries are seven years ahead of the prices we modeled. (The $250/kWh utility price point didn’t appear in our models until 2028, although we didn’t specifically model a utility-sized solution.) A seven-year accelerated price reduction means tens of millions more customers will be able to cost-effectively install solar-plus-battery systems than we originally modeled in our analyses.

    3. Re:Of course by evilviper · · Score: 2

      Coming from a career working in the power industry, I gotta tell ya...that Wikipedia entry is about experimental methods, not things meant to store energy on a bulk scale.
      No, none of them work as needed yet.

      In 2010 the United States had 21.5 GW of pumped storage generating capacity.
      The EU had 38.3 GW net capacity of pumped storage , representing 5% of total net electrical capacity in the EU.
      Japan had 25.5 GW net capacity.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Sounds like 'bulk scale' to me...

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    4. Re:Of course by hackertourist · · Score: 2

      In addition to many methods that are still experimental today, the article lists pumped (water) storage, which is in widespread use today (127 GW capacity installed). Single facilities can store multiple GWh at 70% efficiency.

  3. Re:A non-free market acts erratically. So? by chill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you think free markets can't, and don't act erratically, you're delusional. The only time markets don't act erratically is in monopoly situations, where they are tightly controlled -- either by a government monopoly, or a corporate monopoly.

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  5. Not news by pocketbookvote · · Score: 5, Informative

    Negative prices have persisted in Texas and elsewhere for the past decade; this is not news. It is a function of the tax credit, but also a lack of transmission. When transmission is not available from wind resource areas, the prices will be negative there (and higher on the other end), reflecting the fact that wind has to back down because it can't go anywhere. There are also instances where there is simply more power than there is demand over an entire area, but this not as common; that scenario is actually a bigger problem in California due to the buildout of solar (for which there is no production tax credit, notably). Negative pricing was much worse in Texas a few years ago before they built a backbone transmission system to get wind from West Texas to load in the east. There is no doubt that the spot price of energy on average is lowered by wind; utilities nationwide are signing contracts at $20/MWh or less, well below today's average spot price, fixed for 20+ years. Interesting aside - even before there was much wind, prices in the Pacific Northwest would typically go negative for a few hours in the spring when coal needed to be paid to back down to accommodate spring runoff through the hydro system.

  6. Negative pricing is huge incentive for batteries by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Interesting
    That is how the free market is supposed to work. Anyone that can come up with an effective electrical storage company can make a ton of money with spot negative prices. Even if negative prices vanish, they can still make money with a large enough spread.

    If storage has even an 50% loss rate, then daily price variation should be limited to 50% because otherwise storage batteries would make a profit.

    The trick is to create a battery efficient and cheap enough to reliably make money on daily price variations.

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  7. Re:A non-free market acts erratically. So? by FranTaylor · · Score: 2

    it sounds to me like we aren't dealing with a free market here.

    there is no such thing as a "free market" so this is not surprising

  8. Re:Negative pricing is huge incentive for batterie by Solandri · · Score: 3, Informative

    If storage has even an 50% loss rate, then daily price variation should be limited to 50% because otherwise storage batteries would make a profit.

    No, that in itself isn't enough for storage batteries to be profitable. Take lead-acid batteries for example. They're a century-old technology whose primary drawback (weight) isn't a factor for storage applications. A deep-cycle lead-acid battery will cost you about $1 per Ah. At 12 V, that's $1 per 12 Watt-hours of capacity, or $83.33 per kWh of capacity.

    The average residential price (the more expensive) of electricity in the U.S. is $0.12/kWh. If the price swing between day and night is $0.12/kWh ($0.18 at peak, $0.06 at night), then it will take you $83.33/$0.12 = 694 cycles to recoup the cost of the batteries and actually start to make money.

    "Great! So you'll start making money after 2 years!" No, these batteries typically only last 150-300 cycles. Deep cycling is very stressful to the chemistry, and the cells rapidly begin to lose capacity beyond that many cycles. So it'll die long before you reach your break-even point. If you figure it lasts 300 cycles, the daily price differential in electricity price between day and night needs to be $0.278 per kWh before the battery becomes economical. If it only lasts 150 cycles, the price differential needs to be $0.556 per kWh. And I haven't even factored in charge/discharge efficiency.

    This is why batteries are used almost exclusively for mobile applications - where it's impractical to draw power straight from the grid. Essentially you're paying dozens of dollars to carry around a few cents worth of electricity. Trying to turn that around and use batteries to release electricity back to the grid is adding a huge expense for very little benefit. It's almost always more practical to just scale electricity production up or down to meet demand, than try to time-shift it with batteries.