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NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX 980 GPU For High-End Gaming Notebooks

MojoKid writes: NVIDIA is taking things is a slightly different direction today, at the ultra-high-end of their mobile graphics offering, introducing a "new" mobile GPU implementation, that's not really a mobile part at all, the GeForce GTX 980. Notice, there's no "M" on the end of that model number. NVIDIA is betting that the enthusiasts that are most likely to buy a notebook with a GeForce GTX 980 in it are savvy enough to understand the difference. Through some careful binning and optimization of the components that accompany the GPU, including the memory, voltage regulation module, and PCB, NVIDIA was able to take the full desktop GeForce GTX 980 GPU and cram it into mobile form factors. The mobile flavor of the GeForce GTX 980 features selectively binned GPUs that are able to achieve high frequencies at lower-than-typical voltages. And those GPUs are paired to 7Gbps GDDR5 memory and a heat sink with up to 2X the capacity of typical solutions. Notebooks powered by this GPU will be unlocked, and fully overclockable.The performance of the GeForce GTX 980 will also allow notebooks powered by the GPU to push multiple screens or power VR gear. NVIDIA was demoing a GTX 980-powerd Clevo notebook at an event in New York, connected to a trio of 1080P monitors, running GTA V at smooth framerates.

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  1. Ten Gauge Power Cord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So does the charger for this monster have a 10 gauge cable, to prevent cable overheating?

    1. Re:Ten Gauge Power Cord by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      Actually, the power and cooling requirements might not be that bad. When the full-sized version of the 980 first appeared back in 2014, it came as a bit of a surprise. It wasn't, in some respects, the generational leap in terms of raw performance over its direct predecessor, the 780, that some had expected. But it was significantly cooler and more power efficient; startlingly so for what was, at the time, Nvidia's top-end card.

      The official specs list the power requirement of the desktop-version card itself as 165W and recommend a PC with a PSU of 500W or higher. That compares with 250W for the card and 600W for the PSU for the 780 (which is where Nvidia's high end cards had been pitched for a couple of generations previously).

      My 980 does have a reasonably sized fan on it, but even under heavy load (for instance, in The Witcher 3, which is a real hardware stress-test) that fan rarely operates at full speed. I can't find specs on the official site yet, but by the sound of things, they've managed to get those power and cooling requirements down even further for the notebook version.

      Of course, the basic 980 is no longer the top-end desktop card. Nvidia's two higher-end offerings, the (ludicrously priced) Titan and the (significantly more attractive) 980ti are both listed as having a 250W power requirement. Some of AMD's top end cards, meanwhile, more or less require that you hook them up to their own power-plant (coal, gas or nuclear is fine), while seating them at the bottom of a frozen Antarctic lake.

  2. The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by sinij · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The only Gaming Notebooks that should exist are Pen&Paper.

    Why would anyone game on a ultra-light budget-oriented laptop that has no way to provide adequate cooling or power to game?

    1. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      We're witnessing the final death of the desktop - right here.

      Never gonna happen.

      In the corporate world, physical desktop machines will stick around for a long time.

      And as long as you pay a significant premium for a laptop which isn't as easily upgraded, a lot of home users will continue to buy a desktop.

      With a desktop you can swap out pretty much any component, with a laptop not so much. You can pretty much have a desktop machine built to spec, whereas a laptop is always going to be a much more limited menu.

      Yes, there will be tablets. Yes, a lot of people find a laptop covers their needs. But I don't see the desktop going away any time soon.

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    2. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by sinij · · Score: 1

      I'd be curious to see if this does even better in a similar form factor.

      Please outline a scenario where it could do better in a small form factor?

      Congratulations, you can theoretically game on your notebook. For 10 minutes on a fully charged battery. While suffering third-degree burns to your crotch and hands.

    3. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      And as long as you pay a significant premium for a laptop which isn't as easily upgraded, a lot of home users will continue to buy a desktop.

      That's pretty hilarious. Even 3 years ago, laptops made up around 70-75% of home computer sales vs desktops. And the laptop share is probably even higher today. "A lot of home users" are not doing what you claim because the people buying desktops are an ever shrinking minority.

    4. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by sinij · · Score: 1

      Well, if you assume that gaming is always about pushing the most pixels on the most powerful/power-hungry hardware, then no.

      For any other definition of gaming, why would you want GTX 980?

    5. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Those things are irrelevant to most buyers. When laptops become more on-par with desktops as far as expense (and they're pretty damn close already), the desktop will be as good as dead.

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    6. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by gizmo2199 · · Score: 1

      But that doesn't include the gamer marker this is aimed at. Any new laptop using the 980M will almost certainly be price above $1,500. For half the price you could build a comparably specked desktop.

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    7. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 2

      Most home users aren't the sort who buy dedicated PC gaming machines, though. I have a work laptop, that's relatively new and light - but all it needs to run is office/exchange/web browser and anything else corporate decides they need me using. I'm not worried about how many frames of Crysis3 it can push, or how it handles the latest Call of Duty Advanced Modern Black Ghost Ops running at 4k resolution.

      I used to have a 'gaming' laptop, because I traveled a lot, and still wanted to play games. A desktop isn't really an option when you're away from home more often than not. That said, the moment I was back in a stable environment, I splurged on a monster gaming desktop with top of the line video cards and a massive monitor, because laptops just don't provide anywhere near a satisfying experience. I also bought a much more modest laptop, that while it had enough to do some basic stuff (play an MMO, web browse, etc) when I went on a trip, it also didn't weigh so much that I would up wanting to kill myself when trying to lug it through an airport.

      The only way I'd consider going back to a "gaming" laptop is if I was on the road 24/7 again. It's just not worth the cost, because you'll get far more bang for your buck with a desktop as a gamer.

    8. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone game on a ultra-light budget-oriented laptop that has no way to provide adequate cooling or power to game?

      Gaming laptops are neither ultra-light or budget-oriented. Some of them weigh over 10 lbs. because they need to be thick enough to cram the high-end GPUs and other components inside as well as the cooling system to keep it from burning a hole through a desk. They also typically cost several thousand dollars because they're using the premium components that can cost more than another person's entire system.

      I don't know why people buy something like this as it's clearly not for me. I'd rather make a mid-range desktop rig that gets 90% of the performance for under 50% of the cost, but I imagine that some people like these because they're more portable. If you go to a lot of LAN parties, dragging a 10 lb. notebook around is easier than having to lug a PC case around.

    9. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      In the corporate world, physical desktop machines will stick around for a long time.

      I'm not so sure about that; at my new (software dev) job I asked for one desktop and one laptop (expecting a Macbook and a Dell tower or something), but got issued a Thinkpad and a Mac Mini. I have yet to see another new employee get a computer with actual ATX-compatible components.

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    10. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If desktops can be upgraded easily and are bought less often than laptops, the two statements are not contradictory at all.

    11. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Call of Duty Advanced Modern Black Ghost Ops

      That game sounds awesome.

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    12. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 1

      I've yet to see a Laptop be even close to a desktop in price. I've always seen that a laptop is at least twice the cost of a desktop that's 2 or 3 times the power.

      Case in point: My wife has used several sites to try to design her dream gaming laptop. Every time she's come up with a system that's no less than $4,000 and usually closer to $5,000 in price. For ~$4,000 on NewEgg I can build a Dual Xenon (12-Cores total) server with 64GB of RAM (expandable to 512GB), Quad Gigabit Ethernet Ports, and Quad SLI Full Factor GTX 980's pushing High Definition Game Streaming two different games, one to my current laptop and one to my wife's while keeping all the high end graphics eye-candy that can be mustered. With that much beef, I could probably run several Linux servers on it at the same time I'm running the two separate Windows VM's that are pushing the games down the line to the laptops.

      How do I know this is do-able? Using my 3 year old Desktop with Intel Quad Core, 16 Gigs of Ram and Dual GTX980's(very recent upgrade from dual GTX 760's) that cost me less than $2k I can stream Batman: Arkham Knight (pc glitches and all...though it's been much improved with last month's patch) at the highest video options to my Laptop that's connected to my 1080p TV and Dolby 7.1 and get the full home theater experience with all the stupid PhysX effects that Rocksteady could fit. The laptops that my wife and I have? They're both 4 year old Acer Aspire 7552 Laptops, Quad Core with an AMD M6650 GPU, 4GB of RAM, and Gigabit Ethernet each.

      Not just for gaming, but many times I'd be working on a cpu/gpu intensive project from the comfort of my bed while remoted into the desktop using the laptop as nothing more than a thick-client; especially if I were setting a project up for an overnight compile/compute job. Anyone who does serious work/play with a computer, I'd highly recommend pouring all your money into putting together a beefed up Desktop/Server system to run all the compute tasks in the household, and just get each member of the household that needs one a cheap laptop for the day to day tasks of email and web-browsing. If they need the compute power or want to play a high end game, stream it. Put the money into something that can easily be upgraded and repaired as needed...instead of the unit that's designed to be disposed of and replaced when the new shiney comes out.

    13. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Never gonna happen. In the corporate world, physical desktop machines will stick around for a long time.

      In the workstation market perhaps, otherwise I think laptops for portability and thin clients for on-site work is taking over. That way they can just provision you more resources in a data center somewhere and if it breaks just grab a different thin client.

      And as long as you pay a significant premium for a laptop which isn't as easily upgraded, a lot of home users will continue to buy a desktop.

      For the premium? Sure. But my impression is relatively few people do anything but the simplest of upgrades, the kind you potentially could do on a laptop too unless it's soldered in except maybe a few gamers.

      You can pretty much have a desktop machine built to spec, whereas a laptop is always going to be a much more limited menu.

      It's easier to go a little overkill these days. It's not like ten, twenty years ago when it would be half the price in a few years.

      Yes, there will be tablets. Yes, a lot of people find a laptop covers their needs. But I don't see the desktop going away any time soon.

      If you don't believe the desktop is marginalized, you should realize that the latest Skylake processors topping out at 65W except for the K-model is basically slightly higher clocked laptop chips. The desktop models are just a spin-off, just like the high-end desktop is a spin-off of servers. Nobody puts effort into the desktop anymore.

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    14. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by Toshito · · Score: 1

      I don't know why people buy something like this as it's clearly not for me.

      There, you said it. Different users have different needs.

      Personnaly I would never go back to a desktop. It takes too much space, and I love that I can do gaming, and browsing, and anytime I want I just pick up my laptop and bring it with me anywhere in the house.

      I could have a gaming desktop AND a cheap laptop, but then I'd have 2 machines to maintain, (on top of the 5 other laptops in my household).

      And to be sure I can acces my data on both computers, I'd have to either duplicate it or put it on a network drive or (god forbid) The Cloud(TM), and it would not be seemless.

      The fact is I work in IT, been a programmer for 25 years, and I don't know anyone (friends, family or close colleague) who still has a desktop.

      Of course I'm not a passionnate gamer, as long as I have more than 30fps on most games I play I'm happy.

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    15. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      Most people in the corporate world use laptops not towers.

      My job (UHC) and my last job (KCI) only assigned laptops to mobile personal and people that might need to work from home. Most of the other hundred thousand employees use desktops. There just isn't a need for laptops

    16. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by marcomarrero · · Score: 1

      Sadly, most people want their laptops, cars with auto transmissions, and 1GB data plans (not even enough for a 90's 56K modem).

      I think it's significant that if the Oculus Rift succeed, these GTX 980 laptops will probably be the only ones that meet recommended specs. Also, current nVidias won't take advantage of important DX12 features, so they've been doing things like not overpricing new cards, GameWorks, etc.

    17. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      It is not a patch on "Gratuitous Violence 4 - the death-match orgy".

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    18. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Not all of us use it for gaming. Some use the the GPU for heterogeneous computing R&D.

      I use my desktop i7 + a discrete GTX 980Ti for (game) dev.

      I _also_ use a MacBook Pro with a "decent" mobile 750M for WebGL (shader) testing.

      Since I can't lug around my desktop, having a portable laptop that doesn't have a complete crap GPU is extremely convenient.

      Different strokes for different folks.

    19. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Why have 4K at 17", though? Or even 18"? I have a 28" 4K desktop monitor and it's gorgeous, but I can't even make out the pixels when I'm at a reasonable using distance. What benefit is 4K over 1440 on a laptop, other than requiring beefier gaming components?

    20. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Simple: These cards are not targeted at ultralights. What's different is that this is the desktop 980 chip in a laptop format. Normally, nvidia disables a few cores, underclocks, and adds an 'm' to the model. They didn't do that this time. Instead, they left the chip intact, binned for good ones, and modified the power regulation. Like the other high end 'm' gtx models, you'll find these in gaming machines which are way bigger and heavier than ultralights.

    21. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      I think he meant gaming/workstation laptops.. not the garden variety macbook pro with intel video and slow cpu. The more accurate term for these is 'portables' because while they have batteries, they don't last more than an hour usually.

    22. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      Yeah, right ... Try putting my desktop (dual GTX980, an SSD and two hard drives and a Core i7-4930K with 16GB RAM) in the body of a laptop. Every year appears an idiot saying that the desktop is dead.

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    23. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      Yeah, right ...

      So you disagree with the sales data from computer OEMs?

      Every year appears an idiot saying that the desktop is dead.

      Good for them. I stated no such thing.

    24. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but the person they responded to was obviously talking about the market as a whole.

    25. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Again, that may be relevant to you (a very specific subset of people) but most people end up buying their laptop at WalMart/BestBuy and there it's:
      Here's a desktop, Core i3, 4GB RAM, 1TB hard drive: $399
      Here's a laptop, Core i3, 6GB RAM, 500GB hard drive: $399

      The fact that the Core i3's both have different model names or even from entirely different platforms is largely irrelevant, as long as the MHz is close and the GB matches, they're on par to most people. And some people will do the research and find out that for a laptop as powerful as the $399 desktop, they'll need to pay $499. And laptops are more convenient ergo, they buy the $499 or whatever the salesman has sold them up to, they'll also get the protection plan, just in case.

      That IS how people choose these products, even a lot of semi-casual gamers will choose on a fairly similar thing. They'll match the specs of their desktop with the specs on their laptops and the price difference is again a little more, but an nVidia 980M == a regular 980 right? And the laptop is only $200 more (on a $1500 buy, not that much difference).

      And you quote Arkham Knight which is specifically a very bad port which runs just fine on most "gaming" laptops/desktops unless you have specced out your rig to be SLI+ and want to run it on 2180p120 which it doesn't. It runs just fine on 720p24 (or whatever PS4's run at) and most people won't even know the difference.

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    26. Re:The only Gaming Notebooks are P&P by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 1

      If a customer is looking at computers on that low of the spectrum, they wouldn't give a flying fuck about anything in this article. If a person is looking for something to do email and facebook and maybe a few flash games, they wouldn't need a desktop; and they sure as hell wouldn't need a bloody nVidia 980 in whatever the hell piece of crap device they buy. This article is about nVidia putting their newest gaming graphics card into a laptop form factor. This is an article targeting the gaming and performance market, where the desktop will be king for as long as laptops remain a replaceable unit only. Laptops designed with gaming in mind are notoriously expensive... which was the whole point of my posting. A laptop with a single 980? Where's that gonna be in 5 years? The fucking trash can while the buyer lays down another $4k on a decent gaming laptop with the brand spankin new nVidia z60 (because marketing sez the numbers can't go above 1000 [disclaimer: no, I have no idea what the versioning numbers are going to be 10 generations - 5 yrs - from now]). Meanwhile I'll still have my performance server chugging along on quad SLI versions of that same nVidia z60 for about half that price, while delivering 1080p HD gaming to the 2 laptops I bought back in 2011.

      You tout the death of the desktop. It isn't going to happen; not in the next 5 years...probably not even in 10. Sure, you'll have more households that will give up control and use cloud providers for their stuff, but there's too many of us that need that control over our data - and with every data breach that goes public our numbers grow. What's more likely to happen is those of us with true privacy and data security in mind will make sure the high end desktop and low to midrange server market will stay alive and well as we build "household mainframes" to manage our compute and data storage needs while we only offload the least security critical information out into the cloud for remote access to those files from work or school. We'll then hook into the mainframe to stream movies and Super HD games to our TVs; other Super HD games or graphics arts projects to our laptops; and download recipes, books, schematics, etc to our tablets on demand.

      On a side note to this, a while ago I did an Ask Slashdot about tying my household to my parent's household to perform remote management tasks on all their systems. The solution that had the best value for that situation was each of our households having a "household mainframe" that each have their own LDAP tree but will work together over ssh using private key authentication, allowing me to cross trees and manage their roving profiles as needed. If the link goes down (rare but it does happen), each tree can handle their own networks independently as needed. It has greatly reduced the number of trips I need to make each month to ensure that their systems are working properly, and they don't hire 3rd parties anymore that screw up their systems.

  3. "High-End Gaming Notebook" by NotDrWho · · Score: 2

    I know those words, but in that context they make no sense.

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    1. Re:"High-End Gaming Notebook" by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, it will have zero battery life, need to be thicker to hold the cooling gear and huge video card, and need an external monitor to save weight.

      They'll also remove the keyboard and touchpad to prevent overheating.

      Essentially it will ship as a big black box about 18"x18"x8". ;-)

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  4. Re:Battery life by ledow · · Score: 1

    Don't think of it as a laptop that you just game on.

    Think of it as a small gaming computer you can have on your lap, with built-in UPS, that you can also take to work or on holiday.

    Seriously, gaming notebooks are the best combination of things - powerful, off-grid, mobile, small, portable. I've taken to buying a better laptop and not bothering with a desktop at all. With all your games, all your work, all your VM's, and you can take it anywhere and game anywhere that there's a plug socket - LAN parties, on holiday, and still do all your work on the same PC on the train if you want.

  5. Re:Really implausible use-case by ledow · · Score: 1

    It's not about playing GTA V on three monitors. It's showing you that it can handle three times what GTA V needs in a demo.

    And you might be able to buy something cheaper but it's not going to be small enough or light enough to lug around, come with a built-in UPS (laptop battery), etc.

    Don't forget - if it can do three GTA V screens simultaneously, that means it can do one GTA V screen at 1/3rd power. And still scale for a good time after you've bought it (which makes that investment more worthwhile).

    Personally, Googling for their MSI model, I'm actually disappointed that it's not powerful enough. It's only 4-core with 8Gb. My old gaming laptop bought several years ago beats that in its stock configuration, and came with the same 8/8.1/10 upgrades as options to its supplied 7 licence. And it can play GTA V. In fact, I played the entire game through on that laptop. While Alt-Tabbing to work, VM's, browsing, and 1000 other games on my Steam account.

    A gaming laptop isn't just for gaming. It's a laptop that - when pushed and plugged in - can game competitively with a desktop. You'd have to buy a laptop AND a gaming PC to compete and then you'd have two machine with two different purposes that you have to switch between and lug around. Not to mention the screen.

    Or one laptop that you can take to work, play on the train, game seriously at home or a LAN party, and do whatever you want on it without having to suffer any major "disadvantage". PC's can't be moved. Laptops with non-gaming graphics are shit at games. Gaming laptops are the happy medium.

  6. Thanks, nVidia... by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

    Now please stick in in an external Thunderbolt 3 box, so I don't have to buy a $2500 gaming laptop that weighs a stone and will be obsolete in six months when the next GPU comes out.

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    1. Re:Thanks, nVidia... by ledow · · Score: 1

      In the UK, it's 14 pounds (lb) of weight. In the imperial system that pre-dates anything metric and even gets the symbols it uses from the Latin (lb = libra).

      Come back when your measurement system is several thousand years old.

    2. Re:Thanks, nVidia... by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      Stone as a unit of measure does not exist in the US, it's UK and Ireland thing. Ignoramuses like you seem to think anything non metric is the US but allow me to educated you that the former British colonies still use plenty of imperial measurements. In the UK and Ireland if you ask someone what they weigh they are more likely to answer in stone than kilos and they still buy their beer in pints.

  7. can they mass produce this thing? by serbanp · · Score: 1

    Normal part, just binned for high speed so that it still operates at the desired clock rate while powered from a lower voltage supply.

    Essentially just the best of the best will make the cut; this makes very uncertain the actual number of viable dies out of any given wafer batch.

    1. Re:can they mass produce this thing? by mattventura · · Score: 1

      They don't have to mass produce it because it's a niche product to begin with. It's probably going to be prohibitively expensive, not to mention the cooling required means you won't be seeing them in Macbooks and the like.

    2. Re:can they mass produce this thing? by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      If they have been producing the part for any length of time they should be able to predict within a couple percent the number of parts per wafer run they will get.

    3. Re:can they mass produce this thing? by serbanp · · Score: 1

      Wafer yield is an imperfect science, you can't predict it within a couple percent what it will be except if it's very high (90% and more).

      Moreover, they're talking about binning the rare part that somehow hits the target speed at much lower VDD. I don't think one can estimate the chance of this occurring in a batch.

    4. Re:can they mass produce this thing? by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      There is a reason I said wafer run, not per wafer. A run of 5000 wafers is going to generate roughly the same number of "good" parts on mature processes. Nvidia has been producing these parts for almost a year, they have the process down, they should and probably are predicting their numbers to within a few percent on a 5000 wafer batch.

  8. Makes perfect sense to me by hogger · · Score: 1

    I've got a Sager Clevo gaming notebook with an 860M, and there's nothing to hate about it. It lasts a long time on a charge. It plays most games at their highest res. It runs Linux great. It's light, with an SSD for the OS drive. It runs two external monitors when I'm using it for work. It has no DVD, so it's lightweight. It doesn't run the Nvidia card when I'm not playing 3d games (uses the onboard Intel graphics). This GTX980 on a Clevo would likely have all those same benefits. You folks trash talking gaming notebooks are nuts.

  9. Use Case? by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

    Can someone point out to this tired old man what the point of this is supposed to be? Serious question. Is it for something other than "enthusiast" market e-peen?

    Look, I get why some folks want to game on a notebook. But pretty much every single notebook with a nVidia GTX980M will play pretty much every single game at high framerates on it's screen's native res. But they've got a notebook pushing 3x1920x1080 at this NY event...is this what it's supposed to be used for? Is it really "mobile" when I need to lug 3 1080p monitors around with me in order to take advantage of this GPU?

  10. To everybody bashing gaming laptops... by c.r.o.c.o · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Until very recently I was traveling for work every week, and the gaming laptop on which I am typing this post saved my sanity and liver in plenty of hotel rooms. It is a Clevo P150SM-A, weighing in at about 12lbs including AC adapter. It was not fun lugging it around airports twice a week while waiting for connecting flights. But it did the job, and I could play Fallout, Skyrim, Bioshock, Dying Light and many other games at very respectable frame rates. Even now that my traveling days are done, I am sitting on my balcony with a cup of tea, enjoying the end of the Canadian summer. I can also set it up in my living room while my significant other is watching TV.

    I had gaming desktops for about a decade, and I just got tired of being stuck at the same desk in the evenings, while spending my mornings at a different desk in the office.

    I am aware that a laptop's performance will never come close to that of a desktop. But if you cannot understand why someone will make that trade-off, don't click reply.

    All that said, I am surprised nobody mentioned the significant issue that Nvidia has with the Windows 10 upgrade. NBR is full of reports of black screens after upgrading, and the cause seems to be the Nvidia driver overwriting the LCD EEPROM. It seems Alienwares are particularly affected, with a few Clevos as well.

    1. Re:To everybody bashing gaming laptops... by crazy+blade · · Score: 1

      I myself can't even stand lugging one from the living room to the bedroom! Can't wait till there's a decent one of these:

      http://www.kitguru.net/compone...

      http://hexus.net/tech/news/per...

      I'd love to have it connected to the monitor of my desk and connect my slim-and-light laptop to it for gaming. Even more awesome would be the fact that one could have an enclosure and be able to even swap out the graphics card!

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    2. Re:To everybody bashing gaming laptops... by PPalmgren · · Score: 1

      As long as you're fine having your desktop on all the time, the steam gamestream mode actually works extremely well. I built a HTPC and stuck a high end graphics card in it for couch gaming, but soon after, they made their gamestream service respectable. I moved the graphics card into the desktop and SLI'd it and instead used on-chip graphics for the HTPC. The HTPC played games as flawless as before using the streaming with better quality b/c of more power on the desktop. I'm looking forward to the steam link boxes coming out, and recently sold that HTPC for a pretty penny.