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"Happy Birthday To You" Now Public Domain

New submitter Duckman5 writes: As mentioned on multiple occasions, the popular song "Happy Birthday To You" has recently been the subject of a lawsuit between a couple of documentary filmmakers and Warner/Chappell Music. The judge in the case, George H. King, has finally issued his ruling and according to NPR and the LA Times, that song is finally in the public domain. Warner is still apparently "considering our options," so this may not be the end of it, but it seems to be a turn in the right direction. Also at the Washington Post, among many others.

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  1. Wait a minute... by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 5, Funny

    A judge in the USA has ruled in favour of the obvious? Has someone contacted the devil yet?

    1. Re:Wait a minute... by ZipK · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This wasn't "ruling in favour of the obvious", this was making a ruling about which parts of "Happy Birthday" are copyrighted, based on the technicalities of the claim.

      Indeed, the song's author(s) apparently never asserted a copyright for the lyric, and the first company to do so did not seem to have gained that right from the authors. So the melody fell out of copyright long ago, and the lyric was never properly copyrighted in the first place. Now let's see if Warner has to return the monies they took for licensing a song that they didn't actually own.

    2. Re:Wait a minute... by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Funny
      Has someone contacted the devil yet?

      We tried, but sudden blizzards seem to have interrupted all forms of communication.

    3. Re:Wait a minute... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My guess is they'll still be litigating this ridiculous nonsense in 100 years, or by the time we have flying cars, whichever takes longer.

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    4. Re:Wait a minute... by shentino · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Settlement agreements usually forbid appeals even if the facts change, and at any rate the statute of limitations for recovery of improperly paid fees is probably expired anyway.

    5. Re:Wait a minute... by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now let's see if Warner has to return the monies they took for licensing a song that they didn't actually own.

      They ought to pay at least $10,000 per infringement -- that is, for each person who wanted to hear that song but was denied because Warner was claiming copyright. So, every time you heard a weird birthday song, $10,000 for each person present. And that's being generous, it should cost much more to directly infringe on people's liberties than to refuse to honor someone's state-granted monopoly.

      Stealing from the public domain ought to hurt.

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  2. Not good enough by cmdr_klarg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It should be public domain due to how old it is, not that Warner doesn't have a valid copyright.

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  3. The song is NOT public domain by MeistaDieb · · Score: 5, Informative

    The judge didn't rule that that song is public domain now. It was just ruled that Warner/Chappell Music is not the copyright holder as they claimed to be. There still could be a copyright owner. The song has not reached the age to be public domain yet.

    1. Re:The song is NOT public domain by turp182 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I put in the first submission for the story and the title just stated that Warner didn't own the song.

      The title was:
      Federal Judge Rules Warner Doesn't Own Happy Birthday

      Submitted at least an hour ahead of the other ones. A bit annoying actually. It is interesting though.

      http://slashdot.org/submission...

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  4. Re:The Generic Tune? by Sique · · Score: 4, Informative

    This was and has ever been the case for public domain works. Bach's Toccata and Fugue d-Minor is in the public domain, but performances of them are in general not.

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  5. Was *ALWAYS* in public domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, they found that it was NEVER under copyright, the claimed copyright was to a piano arrangement of it, NOT the music NOT the lyrics which were both pre-existing.

    It shows the big problem of copyright longer than people lives, because this could have been settled decades ago if the original people who signed the contracts were there for deposition!

    Dead people can't testify in court, and copyright no longer requires registration, so there is no way to verify the copyright state of works of long dead people. A lot of who you *think* owns the copyright sold it long ago, and the means to even verify the signatures on the contracts becomes debatable.

    1. Re:Was *ALWAYS* in public domain by crow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Right. The court ruled that the copyright was never valid. Now the question is whether Warner will have to repay millions in royalties that they extorted with their false claims.

    2. Re:Was *ALWAYS* in public domain by Passman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Right. The court ruled that the copyright was never valid. Now the question is whether Warner will have to repay millions in royalties that they extorted with their false claims.

      It depends.
      If Warner filed a case against you and you settled out of court, probably not. You did, after all, settle.
      If Warner filed a case and actually won in court, you might be able to appeal based on this "new evidence".

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    3. Re:Was *ALWAYS* in public domain by Alomex · · Score: 3, Informative

      Now the question is whether Warner will have to repay millions in royalties that they extorted with their false claims.

      The judge explicitly said that they should. (I know, I cheated, I actually RTFA, my bad).

  6. All the waste by xenog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Copyright law is a ridiculous monster these days. All effort and energy wasted in this case is bewildering. People spent many years studying this case to free this one song, to prove that it isn’t “owned” by anyone. This is ridiculous, a hundred years after who wrote the melody died. We are holding our culture, our art, at ransom in the hands of faceless greedy corporate entities, for the benefit of nobody. Copyright was originally meant to encourage more art to be created, not this.

  7. Judge didn't say public domain by Spazmania · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a misreport. The judge didn't say that the Happy Birthday song was in the public domain. What he said was that the folks who claimed to own it failed to prove that they owned it. No one could produce an evidence trail substantiating that the folks who filed for copyright in the 1930s actually owned it. That makes the claimed copyright invalid but it doesn't preclude the existence of a copyright.

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    1. Re:Judge didn't say public domain by NotInHere · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the ruling:

      The 1909 Copyright Act, which governs E51990, did not require that a work be registered to
      obtain a federal copyright
      . See 2-7 Nimmer 7.16. But registration was nonetheless
      highly desirable, not only because it was a precondition to the filing of an infringement
      suit
      , but also because, once registered, the certificate of registration “shall be admitted in
      any court as prima facie evidence of the facts stated therein.” 17 U.S.C. 209 (1909 Act);
      see also 17 U.S.C. 410(c) (1976 Act) (providing for the presumption of validity in the
      modern Copyright Act). Furthermore, “[a]lthough the ‘facts’ stated in a certificate of
      registration are limited to the date, name and description of the work, and name of the
      registration holder, a majority of courts have held that 209 [of the 1909 Copyright Act]
      creates a rebuttable presumption that the certificate holder has met all the requirements for
      copyright validity.” Acad. of Motion Picture Arts & Scis. v. Creative House Promotions,
      Inc., 944 F.2d 1446, 1451 (9th Cir. 1991). Once a claimant shows that she has a
      certificate of registration, the burden of proof shifts to the opposing party
      who must “offer
      some evidence or proof to dispute or deny the [claimant’s] prima facie case.” United
      Fabrics Int’l, Inc. v. C&J Wear, Inc., 630 F.3d 1255, 1257 (9th Cir. 2011).

    2. Re:Judge didn't say public domain by BitterOak · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not only that, but keep in mind this is just a district court judge. His ruling is only binding in his jurisdiction. Warner can and almost certainly will appeal. The first appeal will probably go to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeal, then possibly the Supreme Court. A decision like this, which really has an impact on the losing side's business model is exactly the type that frequently gets overturned. So, don't put on the birthday hats yet; this is far from over.

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  8. My own version by bbsguru · · Score: 4, Funny

    Happy Birthday to You!
    and this song is free too!
    Warner Bro-thers can Bite me!
    This one is G N U !

    1. Re:My own version by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please refer to it as GNU/Happy Birthday.

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  9. No. It pretty much IS public domain by Duckman5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm sorry but I read your submission and it quotes the article saying "the world’s most popular song belongs to...the world." What other interpretation is there besides that meaning it's public domain? As the AC below (and the articles) state, the song was published in 1922 without a notice of copyright. Under the laws governing copyright at the time, that means that they could not assert copyright on the Happy Birthday words. It's public domain.
    I guess, theoretically, some cockroach could crawl out of the woodwork tomorrow and say "but look, my great grandaddy published the words WITH the copyright statement in 1921! I own the words!" Yes, it's possible, but not particularly likely. The only group to ever assert copyright on it was Warner and the chain of holders before they finally purchased it. At this point it might as well be over.

  10. Re:The song IS public domain by NotInHere · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's a legal argument that the plaintiffs made. The judge denied that one.

    That's correct, the judge denied the argument. However, he argued the argument is denied because the plaintiffs didn't provide evidence that the publication of
    Happy Birthday in The Everyday Song Book in 1922 was authorized.
    He didn't argue that it was denied because the publication was only done by a licensee, like you say.

    If you published an authorized work under the Copyright Act of 1909, and missed a copyright mark, the work would become public domain. From the ruling (some quotes removed):

    Under the Copyright Act of 1909, one secured a federal copyright by publishing a
    work with proper notice. Before such publication, the work was protected by common
    law copyright. If the work was published without notice, two things happened: the
    author (1) failed to obtain a federal copyright and (2) lost the common law copyright as
    well.

    General publication, which would cause a forfeiture, occurs “when, by consent of
    the copyright owner, the original or tangible copies of a work are sold, leased, loaned,
    given away, or otherwise made available to the general public, or when an authorized
    offer is made to dispose of the work in any such manner, even if a sale or other such
    disposition does not in fact occur.” 1 Nimmer 4.03. By contrast, a limited publication,
    which does not cause a forfeiture, is when “tangible copies of the work are distributed
    both (1) to a ‘definitely selected group,’ and (2) for a limited purpose, without the right of
    further reproduction, distribution or sale.” Acad. of Motion Picture Arts & Scis., 944 F.2d
    at 1452. Moreover, “mere performance or exhibition of a work does not constitute a
    [general] publication of that work.” Am. Vitagraph, Inc. v. Levy, 659 F.2d 1023, 1027
    (9th Cir. 1981).

    The judge even said that this would apply for the 1922 publication:

    If the [1922] publication was authorized, that could
    make it a general publication (without proper copyright notice), divesting the Hill sisters
    of their common law copyright.

    But later on, he sais:

    As Defendants [Time Warner] point out, there is no direct evidence
    that the Hill sisters had authorized Summy Co. to grant permission for the publication of
    the lyrics in The Everyday Song Book.

    And concludes:

    Plaintiffs cannot satisfy their initial burden under Rule 56. Accordingly,
    Plaintiffs’ Motion is DENIED as to this issue.

  11. Oblig (very relevant) xkcd by snowsmann · · Score: 5, Interesting
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  12. Re:The song IS public domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The judge even said that this would apply for the 1922 publication:

    If the [1922] publication was authorized, that could
    make it a general publication (without proper copyright notice), divesting the Hill sisters
    of their common law copyright.

    It doesn't matter, because the very existence of that songbook means the song predates 1922, which would mean even an "authorized" 1922 publication's copyright would have expired.

  13. The song IS public domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The judge did not rule that it is public domain, he ruled that the copyright only covered specific piano arrangements of the music, not the actual song an not the lyrics. Which is interesting as the evidence held by Warner/Chappell Music proved they never had legal claim to copyright on it, and that any copyright would have ended 10 years ago. I'm guessing the judge was just throwing them a bone.

    Warner/Chappell Music kept all the original documentation from the Clayton F. Summy Co. filing of the copyright. Unfortunately, some of the documentation was never submitted as part of the copyright claim because it proved that the company had no legal grounds to the copyright.

    As part of the case Warner/Chappell Music had to show all the information they had, which included the unfilled documents. The music was actually from another song dating older than the lyrics. The suspected origin of the lyrics, at least the first written account, put it out of its maximum copyright period in 2005.