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Light-Based Memory Chip Is First To Permanently Store Data

sciencehabit writes: Scientists have developed the first ever memory chip that’s entirely light-based and can store data permanently. Sciencemag reports: "Today's electronic computer chips work at blazing speeds. But an alternate version that stores, manipulates, and moves data with photons of light instead of electrons would make today's chips look like proverbial horses and buggies. Now, one team of researchers reports that it has created the first permanent optical memory on a chip, a critical step in that direction. If a more advanced photonic memory can be integrated with photonic logic and interconnections, the resulting chips have the potential to run at 50 to 100 times the speed of today's computer processors."

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  1. But....... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1, Funny

    But does it work at night or in the dark? Inquiring minds want to know.

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    1. Re:But....... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

      Yes.

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    2. Re:But....... by peragrin · · Score: 0

      No the real question is it made of crystals. Every future computer is made is crystals

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    3. Re:But....... by sstamps · · Score: 2

      Technically, every modern computer is made from crystals. The silicon they are based on is a tiny piece of a larger crystal.

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    4. Re:But....... by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 1

      Yes but if you turn the lights on and off rapidly five times all your Perl code turns into Ruby.

    5. Re:But....... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 0

      No, the real question is: will it be able to play Crysis?

    6. Re:But....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      No the real question is it made of crystals. Every future computer is made is crystals

      While you're deliberately being a moron, the answer actually happens to be yes, though it kind of depends.

      The article just says they successfully fabricated a optical storage cell (3 bits per cell) using standard chipmaking process that's based off a phase change material, like the stuff used for rewritable DVDs, as the storage mechanism. The PCM material is partially crystalline and partially amorphous (non-crystalline) depending on how much energy is dumped into when it's being written to; that is how they get the 8 separate levels that allows it to store 3 bits per cell. So, how crystalline it is depends on what you have in memory at the time.

    7. Re:But....... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      No the real question is it made of crystals. Every future computer is made is crystals

      Heretic! Every future computer is made of platinum-iridium sponge! Positrons for the Win!

    8. Re:But....... by friesofdoom · · Score: 1

      We already have them... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    9. Re:But....... by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure which is worse...

    10. Re:But....... by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      Only on medium settings.

  2. Read the article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    >Scientists have developed the first ever memory chip that’s entirely light-based and can store data permanently.

    From the sounds of things it uses the same material as optical read/write drives.
    How many bits does their chip store? Three? Five?
    How many optical components / lasers are we talking here if this thing is going to seriously challenge nonvolatile storage like flash? The photonics makes it sound uneconomical, but I'm not a doctor.

    >Ultimately, Bhaskaran says, if a more advanced photonic memory can be integrated with photonic logic and interconnections, the resulting chips have the potential to run at 50 to 100 times the speed of today’s computer processors.
    And how fast will SRAM be when that happens?

    Link to the original.
    http://www.nature.com/nphoton/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nphoton.2015.182.html

    1. Re:Read the article. by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 0

      The photonics makes it sound uneconomical, but I'm not a doctor.

      I see what you did there.

  3. Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Optical memory chips, transparent aluminum. Holy shit, Roddenberry had it right!

  4. Wow, sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've only read about optical chips for 30 years, I'm a patient person. In the meantime, I guess I'll watch Outland again.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00...

  5. Finally? by barfy · · Score: 1

    Siri will understand me?

    1. Re:Finally? by willworkforbeer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Siri will understand me?

      No silly optimist. Siri will be able to misunderstand you 50 -100X faster.

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  6. Picking nits... :D by Xtifr · · Score: 1

    "Entirely light-based". Somehow, I suspect that matter is involved somewhere here too. Building something out of just photons seems a bit unlikely.

    What? This is Slashdot! I can be a pedantic nerd if I want! :D

    1. Re:Picking nits... :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because you are a Luddite. 3D printers will print with light, because computers got better and private space.

    2. Re:Picking nits... :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Building stuff out of photons seems like a bright idea to me.

    3. Re:Picking nits... :D by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Building something out of just photons seems a bit unlikely.

      You're absolutely right. We're going to need force fields, too!

    4. Re:Picking nits... :D by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      If you can be pedantic then so can I. Permanently is an awfully long time to guarantee storage.

    5. Re:Picking nits... :D by Xtifr · · Score: 1

      You, sir or madam, win the thread! :D

    6. Re:Picking nits... :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to get one and then sue them when I'm 80 for false advertising.

  7. that's Horsies and Buggies by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    and Memories.

  8. Consumer availability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the next 50 years.

  9. Photonic Memory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please state the nature of the medical emergency.

  10. who cares by eyenot · · Score: 1

    somebody kick these engineers and scientists in the ass, tell them to stop fucking around and make the nano memristor already. that shit was supposed to be here fucking years ago.

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    1. Re:who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm, this looks a lot like a memristor for photons

      RTFSA

  11. Mobius Computing (The D is silent) by Dutchmaan · · Score: 1

    Make them solar powered and they can power themselves and run infinitely!

  12. No by raymorris · · Score: 1

    >. How many bits does their chip store? Three? Five?

    Eight bits per cell (as opposed to one bit for current ram). So neither three nor five.

    > How many optical components / lasers are we talking here

    The light-supply replaces the electrical power-supply. So at least the same number of LEDs as current systems have power supplies - one.

    1. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >Eight bits per cell (as opposed to one bit for current ram).
      Okay, where did you read this? All I saw from the article was 8 possible values in a cell, thus 3 bits.

      >The light-supply replaces the electrical power-supply. So at least the same number of LEDs as current systems have power supplies - one.
      How do you address billion+ addresses optically?

    2. Re:No by LesFerg · · Score: 1

      Eight bits per cell (as opposed to one bit for current ram). So neither three nor five.

      Well actually its both three and five.

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    3. Re:No by subk · · Score: 1

      How do you address billion+ addresses optically?

      Could this not be done the same way CRTs scan a grid of pixels, just on a micro scale with higher resolution? I am not a particle physicist, but I imagine the carrier beam could be steered with some sort of electromagnetic choke (again, think CRT) to form either a repeating-Z or spiral scan mode. From there, it's just straight forward time-domain correlation of the output signal, assuming this matrix of GST laced waveguides would pass their darkened or non-darkened light blips to a collector where it would be focused and filtered into a waveform and decoded like some hyper-speed version of today's RF modulation schemes such as PSK, QAM, 8VSB, etc...

      Any other concepts I can come up with involve moving parts, so they're automatically non-mention worthy.

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    4. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >I am not a particle physicist, but I imagine the carrier beam could be steered with some sort of electromagnetic choke (again, think CRT) to form either a repeating-Z or spiral scan mode.

      Only gravity can steer EM radiation, afaik.

    5. Re:No by ThreeKelvin · · Score: 4, Funny

      For visible light I personally prefer to use a mirror. Lugging around a spare black hole is kind of a hassle.

    6. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gravity just warps space, the EM radiation itself goes straight through the warped space.

    7. Re:No by subk · · Score: 1

      For visible light I personally prefer to use a mirror.

      How would you propose steering the laser with a mirror without moving parts?

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    8. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Figure out a way to modify index of refraction using some modulation signal?

    9. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Something like this probably.

    10. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The metric sourced by massive objects results in Einstein-Chwolson lensing; an object the mass of the sun results in obvious lensing (an astronomical almanac and a modern solar telescope or a modern portable optical telescope and good viewing conditions is all you need to observe it around the sun now that we're almost a hundred years after it was first observed).

      Microlensing from smaller-massed objects is harder to measure, but is done regularly astronomically and is feasible in labs.

      The point is that while you're correct that the light follows a null geodesic around the massive object that souces a gravitational lens, the light does not return to the path it would have taken in the absence of that lensing.

      However, solutions to the Einstein Field Equations of General Relativity admit a huge democracy of observers all of whom are equally accurate in their observations and conclusions; they are only guaranteed to agree that event A preceeds event B. However the vast majority of possible observers would not agree that the light followed a "straight" path around the lens. Indeed, they would point to observation or experiment involving a pair of photons emitted simultaneously on parallel geodesics that pass by the source of the lens at microscopically different radiuses; their paths *always* diverge for all observers at the minimal radii. You would need to be a very special non-inertial observer to conclude that the divergence is entirely time-like (i.e., that they continue on parallel paths through a coordinate-space -- for example, when only t diverges in coordinates ds^2=-dt^2+dx^2+dy^2+dz^2).

      Finally, mass-energy-momentum curves *space-time*, that's a bit more precise. While spacetime curvature is a global property, its effects on light are purely local. Thus light, moving inertially on a null geodesic, does not know that the geodesic is curved. While that's physically equivalent to light moving on a straight line through curved space, only one of those equivalent statements is useful in understanding Einsteinian gravitation.

  13. hang on - permanent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (too lazy to rtfa, just in case someone willing to answer for me)

    do they mean permanent as in no refresh required?

    do they mean permanent as in "offline storage" or just permanent as in needing to be "reminded" every X nanosecs?

  14. Rant: I can't wait until slashdot 131 IQ... by BlueCoder · · Score: 1

    Can we please get rid of the popular science. Everyone on Slashdot know the promise... Let's rename it Scotty Slashdot and refocus on practical engineering.... rather that PHD's that might as well be science fiction.

    1. Re:Rant: I can't wait until slashdot 131 IQ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What in gods name are you blabbering about?
      This IS practical.
      Not only that, it is very NOT science fiction. It is very science fact, in fact!

      Optical computers only need a few more niggling issues fixed and they will be entirely possible.
      Of course, that is like saying fusion only needs a few more niggling issues dealt with as well, so I can't really say that.
      But fusion is an entirely different concept.

    2. Re:Rant: I can't wait until slashdot 131 IQ... by home-electro.com · · Score: 1

      It was practical 30 or more years ago. I've read TFA. They basically experiment with materials changing their optical properties after being treated with a laser pulse - exactly the same tech used in CD and DVD. And laser discs before that.

      But wait - now it is groundbreaking - they are doing it on a single storage cell. And they call it a "chip".

      Wow. That is soooooo cool.

  15. Faster..? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

    Why would light be better at making faster processors than electricity? Is there a natural advantage that light has over electricity that they're dying to tap into?

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    1. Re:Faster..? by fisted · · Score: 2

      I'd venture a guess that light-based things don't get hot as easily thanks to a lack of resistive heating, which also is the dominant source of losses.

      Of course, this won't be free of losses either, but they're probably smaller.

      Also, signal speed might be a bit faster.

    2. Re:Faster..? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Does the electrical current that passes through a modern processor travel at the speed of light?

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    3. Re:Faster..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A general rule of thumb is about 2/3 the speed of light. It will vary depending on conductor and dielectric (insulating material) properties.

    4. Re: Faster..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Light doesn't have to worry about magnetic fields. An electrical current creates a magnetic field. While that field is being created, it takes power from the current flow. This slows does transitions. It's called inductance.

      There is also the opposite of inductance, capacitance. You need to charge the gate of a fet before it will turn on. That takes time and slows things down too.

    5. Re: Faster..? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Thank you for the informative response!

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    6. Re:Faster..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would light be better at making faster processors than electricity? Is there a natural advantage that light has over electricity that they're dying to tap into?

      Speed of light in an waveguide > drift velocity of electrons in silicon.

    7. Re:Faster..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Light transistors can lead to newer architectural designs. Light can pass through itself, where electricity cannot.

    8. Re:Faster..? by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why would light be better at making faster processors than electricity?

      It's lighter.

    9. Re:Faster..? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. And this matters - when your dealing with 3GHz+ clocks, it actually becomes a problem getting a signal from one side of the chip to the other and back again within a single clock cycle.

    10. Re:Faster..? by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      Light has one natural advantage, in that it doesn't have mass and so it goes at the speed of light. Electrons are not that fast. It's more complicated though, since both electrons in a conductor and photos in a fiber are slowed down by various amounts depending on the medium. It's very possible that the photos in a photonic chip could be substantially faster than electrons in an electronic chip.

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    11. Re:Faster..? by crunchy_one · · Score: 3, Informative

      Absolutely. Another huge problem is skew, where dissimilar wire lengths result in signals (for example, the bits making up a word) arriving at their destination at different times. This is not a problem exclusive to integrated circuits: Seymour Cray addressed this problem in the CDC 6600 (circa 1964, discrete Si transistors) by using wires of identical lengths for interconnections. If you look for a photo of the CDC 6600 back plane, you'll readily see what I mean.

    12. Re:Faster..? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Imagine that Electricity is Slashdot and Light is Google. You can pose your question using Light, or you can pose your question using Electricity, but you will get your answer much faster if you pose it using Light!

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    13. Re:Faster..? by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes. I am having a hard time finding a good article on this, so I will attempt to explain. I'm a software guy with limited VLSI and electrical experience, so I bet 100 people will jump in and correct me on parts of this. But here goes...

      I think the hope is that optical circuits would be lower resistance, be less susceptible to heat, not cause magnetic fields, and not act as transmitters or receivers.

      When electricity passes through a wire, it experiences resistance. That resistance slows the signal and creates waste heat. "Slows the signal" means two things. One is that it takes longer for the current to flow to the destination. Two is that since current was lost to heat, it takes longer for the destination to sink enough current to turn on. As the wire heats, it also becomes a poorer conductor too.

      Also, due to the way transistors work, they briefly short-circuit while they are switching. So the longer it takes for the current to build up at the gate's transistor, the longer it short circuits. Which produces heat too.

      Another problem is that electricity in a wire creates a magnetic field. This creates more losses, but also can cause some of the electricity to jump to a neighboring wire. As transistors and wires get smaller, it becomes increasingly likely that signals will "short circuit" and jump to a neighboring wire.

      Electronic circuits are also sources of, and susceptible to, external noise. A 2GHz CPU is a (weak) 2Ghz transmitter. And a 2Ghz transmitter could induce a voltage on wires within the CPU. I don't know how much of a problem this is though, since the wires in the CPU are very small.

    14. Re:Faster..? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      That's a good analogy but since this is /. it'll need a car analogy to be complete.

    15. Re:Faster..? by sribe · · Score: 1

      It's very possible that the photos in a photonic chip could be substantially faster than electrons in an electronic chip.

      The upper limit on "substantial" is no more than about 50% since electric effects propagate at about 2/3 the speed of light (in a vacuum). It's actually less since light would propagate through photonics at 80-90% of the speed of light (in a vacuum). So, while I certainly would not claim that "substantial" is a misstatement, it does leave room for misinterpretation.

    16. Re:Faster..? by JazzLad · · Score: 1

      That's why /. is slower :)

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    17. Re: Faster..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree that light seems to have advantages, but I don't understand why. As an an electro-magnetic phenomena, why is it that light waves aren't affected by magnetic fields?

  16. Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Oh look, another technology that we will never see the fruit of on a consumer level unless some kind of WW3 happens to force widespread funding and utilization; because Intel doesn't give a crap about technological advancement due to a lack of competition; because AMD has gone into a mentally comatose state for some reason in the past few years. Thus Intel can safely advance at the speed of a handicapped slug, selling the same dung over and over again with trivial improvement only under different names.

    1. Re:Nope by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      And via 50 different models so you don't know exactly which trivial improvements you're buying.

    2. Re:Nope by frnic · · Score: 1

      Lets not forget we get to buy a new mother board every year also. Since the ONE chip socket is different.

    3. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "unless some kind of WW3 happens"

      Currently, there are numerous financial institutions toiling day and night to make this happen. Trust me. Russia just took the bait.

  17. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But will it be locked down under so much intellectual property legal baggage, that only the richest corporations are able to license it, and that most people will never see it used en-masse for another decade, perpetuating the status quo?

  18. Am I the only one who noticed? by subk · · Score: 1

    the resulting [memory] chips have the potential to run at 50 to 100 times the speed of today's computer processors.

    Am I the only one who noticed that the author doesn't really understand the difference between storage throughput and processor speed?

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    1. Re:Am I the only one who noticed? by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      What would be wrong with just a straight clock rate to clock rate comparison between the two?

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    2. Re:Am I the only one who noticed? by subk · · Score: 1

      What would be wrong with just a straight clock rate to clock rate comparison between the two?

      I see you're suffering from the same delusion as the author. The answer is clock rate is not a measure of bit rate.. Clock rate is just the length of cycle, it does not dictate how many bits move during that cycle. This can be demonstrated by example.. A 1.5ghz XEON handles many more bits than a 1.5ghz ARM during one clock cycle, even though the clock rate is the same.

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    3. Re:Am I the only one who noticed? by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      You're the only one mentioning bit rate.

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  19. "Photons of light..." by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    As opposed to photons of darkness? WTF?

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    1. Re:"Photons of light..." by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

      "Photons of Dark." Death Metal Band Name. Called it.

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    2. Re:"Photons of light..." by mrthoughtful · · Score: 1

      A photon is its own antiparticle, so there is no such thing as a photon of dark.
      Which you know, of course.

      However, not all photons are light (if we use 'light' in it's normal context of the visible electromagnetic spectrum), even though all light is photons.
      Examples of photons which are not light include microwaves, x-rays, radio waves, etc.

      That would almost allow for the article not to look like it was written by an idiot, except that TFA ( http://www.nature.com/articles... ) states that the spectrum used is with pulses at around 1560nm - way below the visible spectrum.

      So yes as you say:- WTF? photons of light? OMG N00b!

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    3. Re:"Photons of light..." by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      As opposed to photons of darkness?

      It's proved fact. http://www.math.buffalo.edu/~sww/ZAP/

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  20. The article only talks about write once read many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For a memory chip that's only about 2/3 of the specs. What about rewrite?

  21. Williams Tube Memory by crunchy_one · · Score: 4, Informative

    Could this not be done the same way CRTs scan a grid of pixels, just on a micro scale with higher resolution?

    This reminds me of an early computer memory, the Williams tube, that enjoyed a brief period of popularity in some first generation machines. It worked by storing bits as charged spots on the phosphor face plate of an oscilloscope tube. Although access was random and fast (12 microsecond read/write cycle as implemented by the IBM 701), its refresh requirements effectively halved its performance, and it was notoriously unreliable. Positioning the electron beam was by electrostatic deflection, requiring accurate sub-microsecond switching of high voltages. IBM's implementation used precision counter-wound resistors to achieve the required control, the counter-winding preventing the resistors from also behaving like inductors. Unfortunately, the counter-winding also led to occasional electrical arcing inside the resistors, mispositioning the beam and causing the "Navajo Blanket" effect where the resulting data corruption had a visual appearance like its namesake woven blanket. Error-free operation seldom exceeded a handful of hours, and the Williams tube was quickly supplanted by magnetic core memory.

  22. Actually yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually electricity does travel at the speed of light. It is just that the speed of light is slower than in vacuum because of the dielectric.

  23. essentially the same way you do so electronically by raymorris · · Score: 1

    You can do so the same way you address electronic memory, or come up with better ways. Computers are basically lots and lots of transistors. A dozen different types of optical transistors have been demonstrated.

    After essentially duplicating current designs, but replacing electrons with photons, you can then eleminate some bottlenecks which are there due to the properties of electricity which don't apply to photons. That gives you a Oarm - an ARM-type design optimized for optical. Then you start revisiting some of the design assumptions in order to take full advantage of the benefits of optical logic.

  24. Re:essentially the same way you do so electronical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >you can then eleminate some bottlenecks which are there due to the properties of electricity which don't apply to photons.

    One of those properties is capacitance, which allows MOSFETs (thus CMOS) to work, which enable today's processors to have such extremely low static power consumption.

    Using optical logic might be very power hungry for this reason, maybe not even worth the bother. (Which isn't to say I don't want researchers to try.)

  25. so many types optical transistors by raymorris · · Score: 1

    There have been so many types of optical transistors which have demonstrated POC, I'm sure some designs will have low consumption. Certainly there will be other problems .

  26. Permanent? Like forever and ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being a geek, I always associate the term 'permanent' with marketing speak, because as far as I can tell, nothing is going to last beyond the end of time itself.
    Or is this some sort of total revolution in physics? Are we going to have to rewrite the 2nd law of thermodynamics?

    Or is it just marketing speak?

  27. I'm still waiting for bubble memory... by zephvark · · Score: 1

    What?

  28. What is the energy factor? by martinfb · · Score: 1

    I presume this technology may be more efficient with energy as well. Anyone got any facts here?

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