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Kids Prefer To Play Games On Mobile Devices Over Consoles

New submitter chloealsop writes: The NPD Group has published a report showing that more kids age 2-17 are playing games on phones and tablets than on consoles in the U.S.. 45 percent of kids use a home PC for gaming, a drop of 22 points since 2013. "The largest and most surprising shift in the 2015 gaming ecosystem was kids' move away from the computer," NPD Group analyst Liam Callahan said in a press release. "In the past, the computer was considered the entry point for gaming for most kids, but the game has changed now that mobile has moved into that position. This may be related to a change in the behavior of parents that are likely utilizing mobile devices for tasks that were once reserved for computers."

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  1. Re:Logic by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A bigger failure in logic is that kids 2-17 "choose" their gaming platform. As a parent, it is MY choice. I let my kids play with my iPad in the backseat, so they will shutup and let me drive. No way am I shelling out for a console.

  2. PC dominates the gaming world by Karmashock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    PC gaming is a larger market than all other platforms... COMBINED.

    The problem is that no one owns it and so big companies like to push the notion that the PC is shit. They talk about Xbox or PS4 or mobile and ignore that while there are lots of people that do that, it isn't where the meat and potatoes are of the gaming world.

    Mobile gaming being the future? F'ing candy crush? Okay. Believe what you like there.

    PS/Xbox is the future? Even industry insiders are saying that the consoles have maybe one or two more generations left in them at most.

    The PC however... never been stronger. So by all means... keep shitting on it.

    It makes about as much sense as those dumb shit articles that were saying that business was going to stop using desktop computers and shift entirely to web applications on phones and ipads. These are the sorts of comments you expect from people that don't actually know what they're talking about.

    If you understand gaming then you understand that the PC dominates and you understand why.

    If you understand office programs... word processors, spread sheets, databases... then you know the desktop PC isn't going anywhere.

    The people that suggest otherwise are clueless media nitwits or lying through their teeth corporate trolls trying to get people to use their crippled systems where they can jack up costs for no reason.

    Cue console peasants telling me why consoles are great... I'd love to hear you so much as try you filthy fucking animals.

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    1. Re:PC dominates the gaming world by raftpeople · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't want to go out on a limb here, but if I read between the lines I seem to be picking up that you may be pro-PC?

    2. Re:PC dominates the gaming world by jammz · · Score: 2

      PC gaming is a larger market than all other platforms... COMBINED.

      What are you drinking because I want some!

      PC Gaming is expected to see worldwide revenue of $27 billion in 2017.

      As you can see, PC Gaming and Console revenue worldwide is pretty comparable in 2015. Both pull in a bit under $25 billion.

      According to Gartner, the Gaming industry was projected to be $111 billion in 2015.

      So, if Gartner's projection was roughly right, and PC Gaming & Console Gaming's worldwide revenues are about $25 billion each, who is grabbing the remaining $61 billion? Well, according to Digital-Capital, a game investment bank, the future is mobile gaming.

    3. Re:PC dominates the gaming world by zamboni1138 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I read between his lines, and all I got was carriage return and line feed.

  3. Duh? by bcothran · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can't exactly bring the console to Red Lobster, but you can bring the phone. It's not really about what's a better platform - it's what's available when kids have time to fill or be entertained. This is a dumb post...

  4. When strapped into a car seat by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is tough to play games on a PC.

  5. Re:Logic by TWX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I suspect as micropayments and other in-game purchase models become more common it might make more sense to make use of the TV built in to a lot of newer vehicles to do in-vehicle gaming with some kind of in-car console.

    On the other hand I wonder if being able to fill every idle moment with some easily provided stimulus is not terribly good for us. I'm certainly not immune to seeking diversion myself, but having to figure out how to entertain myself by reflecting on my thoughts or my environment can be very calming and can help bring me back down to earth when I get too caught-up in things. For me, road trips and vacations to remote areas are a way to find that calm and to detach from my every day life for awhile, and have been since I was an adolescent.

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  6. South Park did it by the_skywise · · Score: 2

    They don't prefer playing on mobile devices... they prefer watching others play on mobile devices!!!

    Grandpa!!!

    It's not surprising really - I'm a gamer and while I do still play games on the console and my PC my smartphone is just...convenient. The console requires sitting in front of the TV and not watching TV. Same with the PC (although a laptop is more flexible here if it's powerful enough for the game).

    Portable games systems require carrying them along with you and while I've got a younger cousin that will carry both his smartphone and DS (and play games on his DS while watching Youtube videos on his phone) that's generally a hassle.

    Smartphone? Always with me.

  7. Re:Logic by JMJimmy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Also there's a crap ton of free/free-2-pay-more titles on mobile... kids don't have money, they go where it's free... huge leap in logic there. Also, no console tax.

  8. Consoles are easy to choose, use, and afford by tepples · · Score: 2

    console peasants telling me why consoles are great... I'd love to hear you so much as try

    I've tried to sum up Team Peasant's strongest arguments in an article titled Consoles are easy. In case you don't want to click through, what consoles lose in flexibility they gain in ease:

    Easy to choose For system requirements, either you have the platform or you don't. And there's less crap in the stores. Crap on Atari 2600 almost killed the North American video game industry in 1983-84. Easy to use Turn it on and go. No driver headaches. No time wasted mapping buttons on a USB/BT generic HID controller. Works offline without losing the offline mode credentials after a month. No mods means less chance of online cheating. Easy to afford One console, one TV, two extra controllers, and one copy of four $60 games is cheaper than three gaming PCs, three monitors, and three copies of four $40 games. Disc games mean no risk of hitting your ISP's cap.
    1. Re:Consoles are easy to choose, use, and afford by Gaygirlie · · Score: 2

      One console, one TV, two extra controllers, and one copy of four $60 games is cheaper than three gaming PCs, three monitors, and three copies of four $40 games.

      I don't contest the other points, but why do you think it's okay for the kids to share one console, but then every kid must have their own PC? Why couldn't they just as well share the PC?

    2. Re:Consoles are easy to choose, use, and afford by CronoCloud · · Score: 2

      you just made it clear that you are more interested in the way I said something rather than what I said.

      In the real world, how we say things matters.

      the PC is the superior gaming platform.

      For what?

      For people whose only game is WoW?
      For people who play a single map in LoL/DOTA over and over again?
      For those who play cs_office or The warehouse over and over again?
      For those who care more about e-peens than actually playing games?
      For the former Spectrum lads in western europe and the former commies living in Eastern Europe and Russia who hate consoles because they got so used to pirating everything?

      Every platform has it's plusses and minuses, including Windows on X86. It's a trade off. There is no inherent "superiority" in simply spending more money to play the same games.

      Sure a console doesn't have flexibility, but when it comes to games that can be a good thing. The PS4 doesn't have to worry about AVG or any other application deciding to update itself, it doesn't have to constantly monitor a printer queue, or maintain a ton of Windows services. You don't have to install a half dozen voip apps to communicate because the community/guild in each game favors a different one, and it already has a 10ft UI better than the steam Big Picture mode.

      Its just a shitshow about why its bad for people to hurt each other's fee fees.

      It is bad to do that.

      I don't care about your fee fees. You want to say that makes me a bad person... fine. I don't care.

      Bad Person? Well it does make you an insensitive jerk. People who don't care about the "fee fees" others as you call them... well we have a word for them: psychopaths. They tend to have problems in modern society. Human beings have feelings, and emotions, they matter to many people even if you think they don't.

    3. Re:Consoles are easy to choose, use, and afford by CronoCloud · · Score: 2

      Adults realize if they want to convince others of a point of view that denigrating or insulting others doesn't help. For example, Do you think that those Linux guys who insult windows users as "idiot sheeple" are going to convince any to switch?

      YOU are the kindergardener in this situation because YOU think everyone else is an idiot, or sheeple or whatever. Perhaps the problem is not them, but YOU and your ego.

      The presto-intellectual pretensions of childish twits is not to be taken seriously.

      Pot...Kettle. You must be real fun at parties. But I suspect you don't socialize with other people much, because they're all idiots and sheeple and don't realize you're right all the time.

  9. Google, Amazon, and Apple also tax purchases by tepples · · Score: 2

    Also, no console tax.

    Is the console tax really that much more than the 30 percent tax that Google, Amazon, and Apple charge in their respective app stores? No. In fact, it's exactly the same, as Apple announced an App Store with a 30 percent tax months after Microsoft announced Xbox Live Indie Games with a 30 percent tax.

    1. Re:Google, Amazon, and Apple also tax purchases by JMJimmy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, no console tax.

      Is the console tax really that much more than the 30 percent tax that Google, Amazon, and Apple charge in their respective app stores? No. In fact, it's exactly the same, as Apple announced an App Store with a 30 percent tax months after Microsoft announced Xbox Live Indie Games with a 30 percent tax.

      The "console tax" is not a fee that Microsoft or Sony charges, it's a price discrepancy between PC/mobile versions of a game and the version that appears on consoles. It's not a consistent thing but more often than not prices are higher on consoles than elsewhere.

    2. Re:Google, Amazon, and Apple also tax purchases by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The AAA titles that I have noticed recently cost the same $59.99 on the consoles that they do on the PC.

      The little crap games available on Mobile are a whole different category. Most of them are not worth the $0.99 that is charged for them. There is another category of $7.99 games on mobile, but those are almost always just ports from console games by the big publishers.

      Believe me, some of us have searched long and hard for anything worth playing on 'mobile' that is in app stores. It gets to the point where you search for ONLY games that you can pay for once and just play, because the 'free' games are either spam or microtransaction hell.

    3. Re:Google, Amazon, and Apple also tax purchases by JMJimmy · · Score: 4, Informative

      As I said it's not consistent but you'll see it in things like: Call of Duty: Advanced Warefare Gold Edition, it costs $64.99 on PC and last generation consoles but $74.99 on current gen consoles. Civilization Revolution, $3.49 on mobile, $29.99 on consoles. Toy Soldiers: War Chest - $19.99 on PC, $25.75 on Xbox One. I could go on... I could also show examples of the opposite occurring but in far lower numbers.

  10. Age 2? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Jeeze! Now I know why they always look cross-eyed... People are gonna look pretty weird in 40 years.

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  11. Completely unsurprising by jammz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Us techies always think it's about power or performance, but mobility is a transformative feature. Many people prioritize it over nearly every customer experience feature we can offer in products today. It's largely why Apple came to dominate smartphones. They offered the world's most mobile handheld computer first.

    If I were Microsoft or Sony, I would be very worried. Most of my gaming time used to be on PC games. Then I progressed to consoles and now nearly all of my gaming time is on my iPad or iPhone with minimal laptop time for games not on iOS. Smart gaming companies are already pivoting into mobile gaming where the majority of the money is in the gaming industry.

  12. Re:Logic by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a parent, it is MY choice. I let my kids play with my iPad in the backseat, so they will shutup and let me drive

    Sounds like they are choosing more than you think.

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  13. Um, lots of kids choose by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You just don't realize it. You're not anywhere near as in control as you think you are. Like it or not advertising works. Not always, but lot and lots of times. It's especially effective on kids. Out of spite you might personally block your kids from consoles if you become aware that it's the advertising that makes them interested, but if so you're very much in the minority. Your opinions, beliefs and desires were heavily shaped while you were young and vulnerable, and so are your kids. The advertisers are more interested in iPad games because they're cheaper to make and just as profitable as an aggregate whole. We'll all do as we say because as kids we literally can't think for ourselves. That's why in the 60s and 70s Mr Rogers and others fought against advertising directed at children, and it's also why they lost.

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    1. Re:Um, lots of kids choose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed that kids are in way more control than adults are. Buy the age of 5 I asked my parents to stop having big birthday parties with a dozen plus neighborhood/school kids for me. Instead I asked for dinner and a movie with 2-3 of my closest friends. For years my parents thought I was anti-social and screwed up until I let them in on the secret that I had figured out those random classmates never get you the gifts you want, but instead get gifts they wanted so they can open and play with them at your party. I knew if I asked for fewer kids and less hoopla then I would get more gifts directly from my parents and made sure the list was both top shelf and small enough to be non-negotiable. Worked like a charm.

  14. Re: Logic by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Price is definitely a big factor. If my boys want a new console game, it will cost me around $60. A new tablet game, though, is usually under $1.99 if not totally free. I could buy my boys a new tablet game every two weeks for an entire year for less than the cost of one console game.

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  15. Go away, you're not 16 by tepples · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Child labour laws don't prevent children from working and earning money, it just limits what they can do and how much they can work.

    And until 16, that's pretty close to zero, even during summer vacation in jurisdictions that have one. I'll summarize the situation in Indiana:

    • Under 12: Only on parents' farm.
    • 12 or 13: Only "as a newspaper carrier, golf caddy, domestic service worker (work performed at a private residence), entertainer (with certain restrictions) or farm laborer," and only with permission of the child's parent. If all these jobs are taken, a child under 14 is out of luck.
    • 14 to 15: A few occupations become available, but only with a work permit approved by the child's parent and the school's principal (or the school district in case of home-schooled students), and only duties not on a long list of duties prohibited prior to 16. Most employers just put a blanket ban on employees under 16 because of the wide variety of prohibited duties. For example, employees under 16 aren't even allowed to fix machines that break, use a ladder to reach things, or put anything into or take anything out of a truck.
    • 16 to 17, prior to graduation or GED: Occupations that are not hazardous become available, but only with a work permit approved by the child's parent and the school's principal (or the school district in case of home-schooled students).

    So unless the parent teaches the child how to seek out those few jobs available to a child under 16, the child is out of luck. In fact, my parents actively discouraged me from such. Nor are children allowed to drive a car to and from work.

    Also, don't you give your children an allowance?

    A lot of parents restrict what their children can buy with an allowance. From a legal standpoint, they don't give the child an allowance as much as allocate an allowance to a trust benefiting the child. Besides, children don't own real estate in which to store a modern console. "My house, my rules."

    1. Re:Go away, you're not 16 by tepples · · Score: 2

      Doing yardwork or housework for neighbors is exempt

      Unless another kid already has the neighbors locked in. How is a kid who just turned 12 supposed to compete with incumbents?

      as is working for a family business.

      Good luck convincing your parents to start one in the first place.

  16. Not just playing games... by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

    I have a 5 year old and a 2 year old. The 2 year old is a Peppa Pig addict, but it's not just any old peppa pig. Oh noes, it's "I watch Piggies on daddies phone!" "no darling" "I watch Piggies on daddies tablet", then weirdly it is "I watch Piggies on daddies 'puter" and then finally once all other options have been attempted it will finally be "I watch piggies on tv in the lounge!"

    The 5 year old given half a chance would be surgically attached to the tablet. Managing their screen time is something we have to do everyday, which is a little sad.

    1. Re:Not just playing games... by ledow · · Score: 2

      I'm sure your parents said the same about your attachment to that same TV that's been carried through to adulthood even though it is - by your own account - fairly redundant.

      And parents before that moaned about the children's attachment to the wireless that they never had, and so on, and so forth.

      Manage their time, of course, like any sensible parent you want them to experience the whole gamut. But as for myself it was books under bedcovers by torchlight and then, later, games consoles, even TV under the bedcovers, and so on, kids today have no attachment to physical photographs, to paper books, to written letters or to scribbled notes in the classroom. Those things were *our* generation's communication.

      These things are *their* generations. As sad as it sounds, they will look back fondly in their middle age to "those iPad things", to YouTube ("Who remembers that!"), telling their kids that they had to wait for movies to be released on "The Netflix", and so on.

      Nothing's changed. Just the technology. I guarantee you that your daughter's first love letter will be by text or WhatsApp or some similar means and will mean just as much to her. And your son's first fascination with whatever becomes his career will come from watching a nature program, a documentary, a movie, or whatever on his tablet.

      Yes, it's hard to comprehend for us. But it's not that hard to step back and see why.

  17. Zero Truism by Hidyman · · Score: 2

    Children are not fully formed human beings.

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  18. Re:Logic by unixisc · · Score: 2

    A bigger failure in logic is that kids 2-17 "choose" their gaming platform. As a parent, it is MY choice. I let my kids play with my iPad in the backseat, so they will shutup and let me drive. No way am I shelling out for a console.

    Not just that, my kid would play w/ anything that I used. Since I was generally on a PC, that's what he'd come after. After I got my phone, he used that, and when my ex-wife got her iPad, he went to that.

    A better story is my sister's. When her son was born, she'd use one of the iPad Baby tunes apps to pacify him. Later, he got interested in the iPad, as did my niece. End result is that they already have a few years of practice on the iPad and the phones of their parents. Recently, my sister got a new Mac, and is getting them to practice on that. Point is that kids get a headstart on their parents' phones/tablets b4 they get a console.

  19. Re:Logic by tompaulco · · Score: 3, Informative

    Plus $25 a month for 24 months, maybe hidden in the plan or maybe not, depending on the plan.

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