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Uber Raided By Dutch Authorities, Seen As 'Criminal Organization'

An anonymous reader writes: Uber offices in Amsterdam have been raided by Dutch authorities, as reported by several local media sources (Google translation of original in Dutch). This follows intimidatory deterrence practices earlier in The Netherlands, with Uber drivers being fined in the past months, and fresh allegations that the company would act as a "criminal organization" by offering a platform for taxi rides without license (read: without the authorities earning money from the practice). Time for tech companies to consider moving their European offices elsewhere? Uber's lawyers must be incredibly busy. Proposed regulations in London would effectively end the company's service there, while the mayor of Rio de Janeiro said he would ban Uber's operations outright. They're receiving mixed messages from Australia — just a day after running afoul of regulations in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory is moving to legalize it.

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  1. Re:Without government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fuck the taxi cartels and the governments that support them.

    You mean fuck the Dutch government for abolishing the taxi cartels in 2000 ?

    Uber is as always trying to avoid the costs of running a business by skirting around proper insurance, standardised equipment and related local laws. Even if there was an artificially high cost of entry into the market (which I could find no hint of) it would be hard to keep an international giant like Uber from operating legally.

  2. Greenwheels comply with the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dutch Taxis don't suck, it's a well regulated market, they're clean, consistent and safe.They're also well integrated into the public transport system. And Netherlands has a bunch of laws you have to comply with.

    Uber has its own rules, and its own codes, and surge pricing and fake maps and god view spy app, and so on, and none of this fits in within the laws of the Netherlands.

    There are car sharing companies that comply with Dutch law, e.g. GreenWheels is all across Holland. Uber just needs to stop behaving like babies and comply with taxi laws for their taxi service. (And lets not pretend that it isn't a taxi service, because no judge will be followed by that).

    https://www.greenwheels.com/global/

  3. Re:Without government... by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lol! I've missed planes several times because taxi companies were not able to provide transportation, even though I arranged it well in advance. And they are not responsible for anything - after all, what are you going to do?

  4. Re: Without government... by Asha2004 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually the Dutch taxi market is pretty open nowadays, with several thousand not affiliated taxis in Amsterdam only. But the Netherlands is a pretty regulated country. For driving a taxi for example you need a license (easily obtainable) and there are fixed tariff regulations. Obviously Uber drivers have no such license and don't comply with the tariff regulation. I don't know any democratic nation where an organization which actively organizes and supports activities which don't comply with the law is not seen as a criminal organization.
    Doesn't mean that Uber won't be seen as a kind of emancipationary club somewhere down the line. But now...

  5. Re:Without government... by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 4, Informative

    Huh?

    Both private hire cars and black cabs are required to display an ID number for exactly the same reasons. A complaint can get their license suspended.

    It's just easier to do it to an Uber because you can do it right from the app.

    > Rates are fair

    The rates for standard taxis are strictly regulated and controlled. Uber rates vary when Uber thinks they should (e.g. surge pricing during tube strikes).

  6. Re:Uber is as safe as taxis by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Cato Institute was founded by Charles Koch and while it proposes to be solely Libertarian it often leans Right.

    Libertarianism means free markets, freedom of association, and individual liberties. Yes, in the US these days, that means "leaning right", because the American left has abandoned those principles. FFS, we have a self-declared socialist running as a serious Democratic candidate.

    I'm not saying they're wrong, but what they publish cannot be detached from their public and, more importantly, private agendas.

    Do you have any evidence that they have a "private agenda" separate from their public agenda?

    And what source of funding do you think doesn't come with an "agenda"? Do you seriously believe that, say, academics don't act in their own economic and political interests, as well as that of their funders, when they publish studies?