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Artists Create a 1000-Year GIF Loop

jovius writes: Finnish artists Juha van Ingen and Janne Särkelä have developed a monumental GIF called AS Long As Possible, which loops once per 1000 years. The 12 gigabyte GIF is made of 48,140,288 numbered frames, that change about every 10 minutes. They plan to start the loop in 2017, when GIF turns 30 years old. "If nurturing a GIF loop even for 100 — let alone 3,000 years — seems an unbelievable task, how much remains of our present digital culture after that time?", van Ingen said. The artists plan to store a mother file somewhere and create many iterations of the loop in various locations — and if one fails, it may be easily synchronized with, and replaced by, another. Maybe they should use FLIF instead.

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  1. Let me be the first to point out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    BFD. Displays of sequential numbers, or randomly generated pixels that have no interest except to "contemporary ahhtists".

    1. Re:Let me be the first to point out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Science starts with something complicated and tries to make it simple.
      Art starts with something simple and tries to make it complicated.

    2. Re:Let me be the first to point out by esonik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My feeling is that artists provide a creative source of "noise" and crazy ideas that are critical for breakthroughs. Such kind of out-of-the-box thinking is heavily sought after in the scientific community. Science really needs sometimes a "mutation" of ideas to make the next big leap. Just throwing money at a problem will give you only incremental small steps of improvement. Ideas are the most important ingredient for scientific breakthrough.
      Therefore I encourage scientists to expose themselves to art and I also value artists' contributions although many of them don't make sense (to me).

    3. Re:Let me be the first to point out by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...and once every ten minutes? Jeez.

      I've got some funny cat GIFs that would play for a million years if I only change the image once per millennium. Can I have my prize for being clever?

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    4. Re:Let me be the first to point out by fisted · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What's outside the box here? They're well within the box of the GIF spec

  2. What's in the picture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If it's representative of "our present digital culture", 47 million of the frames must be porn.

  3. So... by minkowski76 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Was there a contest somewhere for 'Wasting Your Time In the Least Meaningful Way'? If so, these people win first place.

    1. Re:So... by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

      What are we here on Slashdot? Chopped liver?

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  4. Yawn... This was more interesting 50 years ago by david.emery · · Score: 3, Informative

    The famous Westinghouse sign in Pittsburgh that went through permutations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    1. Re:Yawn... This was more interesting 50 years ago by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 3, Informative

      A better comparison is made in TFA to the musical piece by John Cage called As Slow As Possible. While initial performances were for a half hour or hour, some crazy people decided to build an organ in Germany and plan a performance that will last over 600 years. (The next note will change in 2020.) And then you have stuff like stretching out a recording of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony to 24 hours without pitch distortions, which was vaguely interesting over a decade ago.

      At least these previous projects had a goal of taking a preexisting artwork and pushing it to its limits. When such things were first done, it at least brought up philosophical musings about the perception of time and artworks. I'm not sure what this adds or what the novel achievement is here other than "watch me program an image file that changes slowly."

  5. OK firing up Virtual Dub by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get the damned gif, change the frame rate and I am going to see how it all ends and post the spoiler all over the net. Ha, Ha, Ha...(-- Evil laughter while caressing a docile white cat)

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  6. Only 85 years short... by fisted · · Score: 5, Informative

    1,000 Years are 525,960,000 minutes, i.e. 52,596,000 10-minutes

    According to TFS, the thing has 48,140,288 Frames, one of which is displayed ever 10 minutes.

    So they seem to be 4,455,712 frames short of having it actually take 1000 years to complete.
    That's 85 years. ...artists... what a meta-failure.

  7. Can't we do better? by pz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Long Now is a far better project than a GIF with slowly increasing numbers. Heck, Arthur Ganson's "Machine with Concrete" is better, and covers the same idea.

    If they had made the GIF a 1000 year movie of non-trivial content, then it might be far more interesting. But then, "The Clock" movie which covers 24 hours is brilliant and would be hard to surpass for density of ideas.

    48M frames would be about 550 hours of footage at 24 frames per second. That's multiple lifetimes worth of output for a prolific movie maker. So it's unlikely that you could really produce that many frames -- even ones that aren't that different one from the next, as you would have in a normal movie.

    How about something more tractable and interesting? How about "Swan Lake" at 1/100th speed (inspired by David Michalek's "Slow Dancing")? How about a basketball game at 1/100th speed? How about time-lapse of something even slower, like a simulation of geological weathering? And those are just off the top of my head. A sequence of numbers? To celebrate GIF? Can't we do better?

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  8. You don't understand art. by mark_reh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The long, slow, uncreative .gif file is only a tiny part of this project. The biggest piece of the project is the commentary about whether it is art, created by all of us after being manipulated by the artist into doing so. The artist's contribution to the whole work was his ability to get media attention for his project and to generate something so uncreative, even unartistic in the traditional sense, so lacking in required practice or skill, that it would surely get the ball rolling on the comments.

    In this, my one comment, I have done more work than the "artist" did for the whole project.

    It's interesting how someone's small waste of time can be snowballed into a collectively huge waste of time by so many others.

    THAT is ART, and I am pleased to have been allowed a chance to contribute to the project.

  9. Re:Very interesting concept by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Funny

    The concept if very interesting, however the actual GIF could have been a little more creative than just a counter.

    Maybe they could make the last frame a picture of Mickey Mouse. By the time it is displayed, the copyright on his image will have expired. Maybe.

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