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From Microsoft, HoloLens VR Dev Kit, New Phones, Continuum

Ars Technica and scads of other tech hardware sites are reporting that the big news so far from this morning's Microsoft product launch event in New York is that the company's Hololens development kit will begin shipping in the first quarter of next year, and at a price that puts the units out of the hands of typical consumers: $3000. At that level, developers are more likely to make the plunge, which Ars applauds.

The company also announced three new smartphones: two of them, the Lumia 950, 950XL, are worth designating "flagships," while the 550, notably, will sell for $139, putting it in the territory of cheap grey-market Android phones. More interesting than spec bumps, though, is Continuum for Windows, a Window 10 feature which made its official debut at the event. Continuum is one manifestation of the pocket-computer idea that others have had as well in various forms: it means that with an adapter, a phone can be used as the CPU and graphics engine when connected to a screen and keyboard: "The adapter features a Microsoft Display Dock, an HDMI and Display Port, plus 3 USB ports to provide productivity on the go and let you plug in additional peripherals, such as mice and keyboards. Other accessories can be connected too, Microsoft said."

Microsoft also demo'd the Surface 4. Its improved screen is 12.3" at 2160x1440, for a pixel density of 267 PPI. The new pro has a Skylake 6th-gen processor, which they say provides a 30% performance boost over the Surface Pro 3, and a 50% boost over the MacBook Air. The SP4 goes up to 1TB of storage, and up to 16GB of RAM. The Type Cover was improved as well — the touchpad is 40% larger and supports 5-point multi-touch, while the keys have better travel and pitch.

On top of this, Microsoft also unveiled the Surface Book laptop. Its defining feature is that you can unclip the 13.5" touchscreen and use it separately as a tablet. The keyboard dock has a dedicated GPU that will boost performance when attached. Microsoft is using a new type of hinge that bends and extends at multiple points, so you can also reattach the screen backward if you want to use it as a tablet while keeping the extra GPU power available. They claim a 12-hour battery life for the Surface Book.

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  1. Real talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm hardly an MS fanboy, but I gotta admit it's pretty cool what they're capable of when they don't have to worry about flying chairs.

    1. Re:Real talk by JediJorgie · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I hope you are a troll because the only other option is that your are completely ignorant of the HoloLens and its market.

      It is already a success as a pre-release device for engineering and data visualization. It is being used by MS partners today and many big companies have been waiting for it to be more widely available.

      Consumers are way down the list for HoloLens. The demo today was consumer focused because it was a consumer event, not because the HoloLens is anywhere near ready for the home user.

    2. Re:Real talk by SQLGuru · · Score: 2

      The $3k is for a devkit. I'm pretty sure that's a number that is high enough to thwart the problem of too many people ordering it and only serious inquiries for now. The consumer hardware will probably be a lot cheaper.

  2. Continuum could be a big hit... by Junta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If they went with Atom processors for the phones.. Without access to the library of existing x86 applications,Windows continues to fail to take advantage of their one key advantage, that dwindles more and more by the day.

    MS should have been pushing the x86 phone story *hard*. I was skeptical when Surface RT happened, and that did turn out to be a bust. MS should have learned from this. While continuum lays the groundwork for an interesting story, it falls short when paired with an ARM device with respect to MS ecosystem.

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    1. Re:Continuum could be a big hit... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      The problem isn't the phones, or the platform, it is that they refused to cut off x86 support and go x64 only ... starting with Vista, 7 and Win 8.

      By cutting off support for x86, they could have been so much further down the road today. But they are too scared to push people off ancient technology. Which is why so many people are still there.

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    2. Re:Continuum could be a big hit... by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not so bad... with the Surface RT people went in expecting it to be like a Windows laptop that ran Windows software. Here people have the expectation of the device being a phone that runs phone apps; having some of the functionality of a desktop is a bonus.

      It still seems like a niche product, though; most people with expensive smartphones also have other, better productivity devices. Taking your smartphone, plus a dock, and carrying or hoping to borrow a screen, keyboard and mouse where you need them seems inconvenient at best. The best use case I can think of is giving your smartphone-toting kids a cheap but limited PC with a full-size browser, Microsoft Office for school assignments, and potentially other apps if developers are actually willing to invest in the niche platform.

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    3. Re: Continuum could be a big hit... by avandesande · · Score: 2

      It makes a ton of sense for a office user where you would have to buy them a laptop and a phone.

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  3. Re:Continuum - Finally by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is actually a nice innovation. I expect someone to come along and tell me there's an Android equivalent, since this is /. - but I have long wished my phone could function like a laptop - plug into a dock at work, into my home entertainment center at home... to be everything everywhere.

    A real innovation to me would not be more functions in the device itself - we already have more than you can count - but rather *eliminating devices*.

    Not just devices on my person like my watch or my keys or credit card, devices in my life - in my home, car, office, etc.

  4. Surface Book by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The most interesting part of this (for me, at least) is the new Surface Book...could be a killer for creative work, a Surface Pro that's actually a goodlaptop.

    That is, if there isn't perceptible lag in the wireless display, that would really hurt stylus use.

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    1. Re:Surface Book by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apparently the display isn't wireless, it just talks to a dedicated GPU in the base when the screen/tablet is docked. Should reduce latency, but unfortunately the GPU would be nice when using Photoshop et al. in tablet mode. The screen can also be flipped and attached backwards, for a faster--if unwieldy--tablet experience.

      I wasn't too impressed with the pen demo on the SP4, seemed rather laggy, like what you'd expect from an iPad. Still waiting to see if the iPad Pro 'Pencil' is half as smooth as Apple's videos made it look.

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  5. OEM are peeing in their pants about Surface by CSHARP123 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That Surface book looks nice (obviously time will tell how it will perform). It looks to corner the high end laptop market.
    Next few weeks OEMs are bringing out their new hardware. Let us see how they compete with MS offerings

    1. Re:OEM are peeing in their pants about Surface by Junta · · Score: 2

      Of course this is a *problem* for MS, this is causing their partners to be at least somewhat concerned. I think getting dug in too hard into hardware is a mistake for MS. They overwhelmed Apple with partners to win in the past, trying to beat apple at their own game seems perilous.

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    2. Re:OEM are peeing in their pants about Surface by ripvlan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I thought the same thing years ago when MS first made the announcement. But then I realized that none of the MS OEMs were building equipment to compete with Apple. MS wanted to build the OS and User experience - but nobody was building an "iPad" or "MacBook Air" .... so MS had to do it.

      Now folks are talking about the Surface & Surface Pro and stating how Apple and others are beginning to imitate MS. MS may have actually gotten this form factor right. But they had to push the Innovation and not rely upon OEMS to invest in this space.

      Imagine the conversation: "Dear Dell/HP - we know PC sales are falling. Please spend money in this risky area and build a decent future tablet/laptop thingy" MS had, up to this point, been placing its hope for hw in the hands of others. With consumers flocking to Apple in this "new" mobile space MS had to stop it. But the OEMs were trying their own things to combat market slide. OEMs and MS were competitors - they wanted more features in Windows too (HP went to Linux for awhile).

      I believe this was a good plan for MS - own the direction and put their money where their mouth was. Still plenty of work to do - but now I think more people are starting to consider Windows Hardware again. Apple is building a Pro tablet, and OEMs are jumping in too.

       

  6. 'Dumb' laptop by avandesande · · Score: 2

    I wonder what form factor you could squeeze out of keyboard/battery/lcd that you would plug your phone into?

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    1. Re:'Dumb' laptop by SScorpio · · Score: 2

      It'd just be a thinner laptop. The LCD dictates the size of the device, then to have be protected the bottom with the keyboard needs to be the same size.

      The Motorola Atrix already had this, but the software was much more limited that what can be pulled off with Continuum.

      http://www.amazon.com/AT-Laptop-Dock-Motorola-ATRIX/dp/B004M17D62

  7. Re:Argh, NOT the TV show Continuum ... by SScorpio · · Score: 2

    It wouldn't be start to tie in a new product with a TV show that's ending this week.

  8. Re:Continuum - Finally by macs4all · · Score: 2

    This is actually a nice innovation. I expect someone to come along and tell me there's an Android equivalent, since this is /. - but I have long wished my phone could function like a laptop - plug into a dock at work, into my home entertainment center at home... to be everything everywhere.

    Wasn't Motorola advertising just exactly that a couple of years ago?

  9. Re:Why buy a Surface Pro 4 over a Surface Book by Wdomburg · · Score: 2

    Price? The entry level Surface Book (i5 / 8GB / 128GB) is $1499. The entry level Surface Pro 4 (m3 / 4GB / 128GB) is $899. Or for the same $1499 as the entry level you can get the i5, but with 16GB of memory and a 256GB SSD instead.

    Weight? The Book is 3.48#. The Pro 4 is 1.73# (or 2.36# with the cover).

    Size? The Book is 0.51" thick (0.91" with the keyboard). The Pro 4 is 0.33" (0.52" with the cover).

    In other words, matter of preferences and priorities, like anything else.