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The United States and Israel Sign Space Cooperation Agreement (israelnationalnews.com)

MarkWhittington writes: According to a story in Arutz Sheva, NASA Administrator Charles Bolden and Israel Space Agency Director General Menachem Kidron signed an agreement to further future space cooperation between the two countries. The agreement took place at the International Astronautical Conference taking place in Jerusalem. The agreement restores a previous commitment for space cooperation between the two countries that lapsed in 2005. The current agreement will have a far greater scope than the previous one.

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  1. So.... by NecroPuppy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mel Brooks was right?

    (It's not obscure; this is Slashdot)

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    1. Re:So.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I only had mod points.

      well done. I am in awe of your brilliance.

    2. Re:So.... by jd.schmidt · · Score: 1

      Bah, you beat me to it. Well done sir!

  2. AWESOME! by harrkev · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow! It is great to hear about one country in that part of the world who is interested in rockets WITHOUT explosives attached. Good job, Israel!

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    1. Re:AWESOME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      You realise that you're talking about Israel, an actual nuclear-weapon-equipped power, right? This is part of why the region is as it is.

    2. Re:AWESOME! by harrkev · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You realise that you're talking about Israel, an actual nuclear-weapon-equipped power, right? This is part of why the region is as it is.

      I can't believe that I am replying to an anonymous coward, but you could not be more wrong.

      Israel has had nukes for DECADES. How many times have they used one? (hint: the number is an integer between -0.5 and +0.5)

      If Iran or Syria had a nuke, how long would they wait to use it? Weeks? Hours?

      When has Israel ever used force? Only when provoked.

      At least Israel HAS an interest in technology that does not go "boom." If you will recall, the Intel Core Architecture was invented in Israel (derived from Pentium M). Israel is actually a hotbed of technology and science. See here.

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    3. Re: AWESOME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this is part of why your a fucking idiot.

    4. Re: AWESOME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not u harrkev, I'm talking about the other guy. You'r actually a normal logical person! Thx!

    5. Re:AWESOME! by guantamanera · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When has Israel ever used force? Only when provoked.

      So expelling Palestinians from lands their then razing their homes to the ground to build Israeli settlements is not a provocation? The Israelis government does many more provoking things but the world just keeps turning a blind eye.

    6. Re:AWESOME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Israel has been fighting a war since 1948. The Arabs got their asses handed to them every time they tried to use military force. That is the number one reason the Arab countries continue to attack Israel. The Arabs were humiliated by their military defeats. Since the military solution was not going to work they changed their tactics.
      The new tactics focused on killing civilians, hijacking planes, blowing up restaurants and any other places that might have a lot of Jews, and killing members of the Israeli Olympic team in Munich. Gaza belonged to Egypt and the West Bank belonged to Jordan before 1967. Prior to 1967 the people living in those territories did not call themselves Palestinians. Israel offered to return those territories in exchange for a peace treaty and the Arabs rejected that offer.

    7. Re: AWESOME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Jordan and Israel are still in war with Israel and that's what is keeping Israel to give back West Bank. Does Camp David means something to you?

    8. Re:AWESOME! by jbolden · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Your language is a little biased. How about talking in terms of populations shifting in locations over time. The neighborhood my parents grew up in went from German to Irish to Jewish to Black to Puerto Rican to Mexican over the course of the last 150 years. During that time buildings were torn down and put up. We didn't call it "Mexicans razing Black and Puerto Rican homes to build Mexican settlements". Neighborhoods change ethnic composition. Within Israel areas have gone from Ashkenazi to Mizrahi and no one talks about razing homes and building settlements.

      In Israel there shouldn't be any Palestinian homes. While different ethnicities of Israelis live in those homes, all homes in Israel should all be Israeli.

    9. Re:AWESOME! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a difference if a Person BUYS a house and razes it down to build a new one versus Israeli moving with bulldozers into Palestinian settlements and destroying them.


      In Israel there shouldn't be any Palestinian homes. While different ethnicities of Israelis live in those homes, all homes in Israel should all be Israeli.

      Half of Israel is conquered by Israelians ... and does not really belong to that country ... expulsion/eviction of war victims is forbidden by international law.

      I hope your statement above was a lame joke.

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    10. Re:AWESOME! by jbolden · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well first off in Israel individuals can't own land they can only lease it from a few agencies. Those agencies, or their Yishuv forbearers, have a long history of buying land going back to the late 19th century.

      As for "conquered" everything on the planet has been conquered at some point. Stuff gets conquered and the people living their form new societies. Pretty clearly the people who live in Israel proper, Jerusalem and Area-C want to be under the rule of the Israeli government. International law allows for self determination and people living within a territory to recognize sovereigns. One can argue about Area-A, Area-B where there is no desire to recognize Israel as the government but you can't make that claim over most of Israel.

      As for eviction of war victims. If you are talking about 1948 both the people who did it and the people who were evicted are dead. If you are talking about later, then of course it is forbidden. But that's not what's happening. States are free to reallocate their land to different purposes. In the USA we call that rezoning and it is routine, we don't treat it as a human rights violation.

    11. Re:AWESOME! by Maritz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When has Israel ever used force? Only when provoked.

      LOL. Doesn't take much to 'provoke' them does it.

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    12. Re:AWESOME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet, in the same time frame, Germans were expelled from places their ancestors had lived for >1000 years (Konigsberg, East Prussia, etc.) and replaced by ethnic Russians and Poles and no one complains about that. Thing is, when you lose a war you started (as the Arabs did in 1947 and 1967) you're likely to lose land. For a more recent example of borders changing, see the former Yugoslavia.

    13. Re: AWESOME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Motherfucker. Fyi slavic people were there furst you nazi pimple

    14. Re:AWESOME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Nuclear proliferation is A-OK if it's a country I like!"

      captcha: uglier

    15. Re:AWESOME! by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      Obligatory. If you go back far enough the land always belonged to someone else.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    16. Re:AWESOME! by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      How many times have they used one?

      Israel, we are so proud of you: in your efforts to wipe out your fellow Semites (let's ignore for now the fact that most Jews aren't actually even Semitic), you've been remarkably restrained in not breaking out the nukes that you developed (well, with the help of pro-apartheid South Africa and very likely the CIA). I can't even imagine how you weren't tempted to use these in Palestine; rolling over unarmed civilians in armored bulldozers must have seemed so anti-climactic compared to the kind of fun you could have been having.

      When has Israel ever used force? Only when provoked.

      Your Koolaid is lacking effectiveness; it's beginning to smell like [gefilte] fish. ;)

    17. Re:AWESOME! by chilenexus · · Score: 1

      > The neighborhood my parents grew up in went from German to Irish to Jewish to Black to Puerto Rican to Mexican over the course of the last 150 years.

      Damn, you got some old parents. How are they doing now?

    18. Re:AWESOME! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Israel has lands occupied, which don't belong tomits territory, Siani, West Jordan Land, the Golan hills.
      There they destroy houses of Palestinians and sometimes support Israelian settlers, that is what I'm talking about.

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    19. Re:AWESOME! by jbolden · · Score: 1

      Israel has lands occupied, which don't belong tomits territory

      I addressed that above, the people living in those territories view Israel as their sovereign. The Golan is either Druze or Israeli the population is enthusiastic about Israeli rule. Area-C west of the Jordan, where the Israelis live is several hundred thousands Israelis and about 60k Palestinians. The Sinai is in Egypt, no Israelis live there.

    20. Re:AWESOME! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Does not change the fact that Israelis "invaded" those areas regularly, destroyed towns with bulldozers and settled Israeli "Settlers" there.

      The topic was about: destroying sttlements and displacing the inhabitants. Isreal did that the last 40 years regularly.

      And I doubt that

      I addressed that above, the people living in those territories view Israel as their sovereign. What wet dream is that? Like east Germany accepted the USSR as their sovereign?

      The Sinai is in Egypt, no Israelis live there.
      So you are like 16?

      Sinai was occupied by Israel just a few years ago ... it was given back to Egypt ... 5 years, 10 years ago?

      Anyway, does not change the fact they destroyed houses and settlements there. No idea about Israeli settlements.

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  3. Mad Magazine Has Returned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny one. Jews in SPPPAACE!

    1. Re:Mad Magazine Has Returned? by AndyKron · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Mad Magazine Has Returned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why not we allready had Pigs in SPPPPACCCEE !!!!

    3. Re:Mad Magazine Has Returned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jews in space.

      You mean Battlestar Galactica?

  4. Great, walls and checkpoints on the moon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suppose it's a shallow comfort that we haven't discovered extraterrestrial life yet. For their sake.

  5. Re:With Jews by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Funny

    <you know the tone I'm using here>My son, the astronaut. He never calls. He never writes. Something about delays, transmission delays maybe, i don't know, but never calls, doesn't write eithuh, no never, and what am I, chopped liveh? He couldn't stay on earth, and take care of his mother, like a good boy, no, he had to go gallavanting all over like a big shot, while I sit here, no one to take care of me... Not like my husband, Mortimer. Mortimer! MORTIMER! BRING ME MY TEA!<end tone>

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  6. Re:You're so negative by harrkev · · Score: 1

    So, it is better to rely on Russia for all of our space needs? Name one other proven way to get living human beings to the ISS.

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  7. Re:With Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jon... Jon Stewart... is that you? Have you returned?!?

  8. Re: Finally Peace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wtf....you racist pig. not only are you racist, your also dumb.

  9. Re:With Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never can there be peace amongst the different.

    Only what is the same cannot conflict.

  10. Re:You're so negative by Trogre · · Score: 0

    I don't know. Is it any worse than the scum who try to kill them every day?

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  11. Re: -- Lying JEW nasa fraud -- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There we go, another fucking neo nazi kkk mother fucker spreading lies and conspiracy theories. What the hell are you doing on slashdot, go back to your hate speach forums so you can fantasize with like minded idiots and racist bigots about your delusions. Fucking crazy how one fucking article about a really cool space contract evolves into this shit by mother fuckers like you. Go fuck yourself you jealous bigot.

  12. Re:You're so negative by harrkev · · Score: 1

    Much much better to work with those lovely fluffy Israelis. What have THEY ever done against human rights?

    Hmmm. Would you rather be a Muslim in Israel, or a Jew in pretty much any Muslim country? Please explain which you would choose, why, and what your expected life span would be.

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  13. Re:With Jews by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    My son, the astronaut. He never calls. He never writes. Something about delays, transmission delays maybe, i don't know, but never calls, doesn't write eithuh, no never, and what am I, chopped liveh? He couldn't stay on earth, and take care of his mother, like a good boy, no, he had to go gallavanting all over like a big shot, while I sit here, no one to take care of me... Not like my husband, Mortimer. Mortimer! MORTIMER! BRING ME MY TEA!

    You sound verklempt, bubbeleh. Unless you're just hakn a tshaynik.

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  14. Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I know the state of Israel has difficulty with the whole concept of "national borders", but outer space? Really? Here come the settlements.

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    1. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And FYI: there is noting wrong with building settlements on your land.

      But that's not all the only place they build, is it?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    2. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      So leave israel out of your fucking snide remarks and spend your energy on more serious problems like the fucking fundamentalist that want nothing less but to chop your infidel head off.

      I live in the Northern part of the US, so I don't really encounter a lot of the fundamentalists. They're only a small percentage of Christians, anyway.

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    3. Re: Outer space? by unixisc · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You mean in comparison to the Muzzies, who have since 700AD overrun large parts of Asia and Africa, moving into the Byzantine Empire, Persia, Central Asia, India, Indo-China and parts of Europe? I'd rather have seen Jewish settlements from Dakar to Brunei than what actually happened - a huge percentage of that area becoming Islamic.

    4. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You can easily be that ignorant. Truth is the Israelis live on stolen land, and are vicious thieves. Fuck you and you shilling for them.
      The truth hurts them, so they pay cunt shills like you to pretend they have support. Mindless fucking worm.

    5. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are honestly against brutal, racist occupations, get out of North and South America. Hell, get out of the Western Hemisphere and get yer azz back to Eurabia.

    6. Re: Outer space? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      There is no difference in Muzzies, who have since 700AD overrun large parts of Asia and Africa versus Christians overrunning the Americas, Asia and uh oh, Europe.

      Or have you forgotten that _all_ of the Europeans where _non christians_ before roughly 400AD?

      I for my part hate it to be sourrounded by all those Christians who have forgotten the prime doctrins of their religion.

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    7. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean the render to Ceaser that which is Ceaser's part, right?

    8. Re: Outer space? by dave420 · · Score: 1

      "Muzzies"? Really? Are you 11 years old? The rest of your post contained absolutely nothing of any use to anyone - just a rambling about something which has absolutely no bearing on the subject at hand, drenched in xenophobia and reeking of abject, comfortable ignorance.

      Clearly you'd not want Jewish settlements if you just happened to be born where Israel wants to build a settlement, as you'd be absolutely fucked. But as that doesn't fit into your wonderfully childish worldview, I'm sure you'll ignore that and carry on attacking people who are different to you, for no other reason than your tiny, scared mind yearns to do so.

      Your ignorance is astounding, and your desire to be ignorant even more so.

    9. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, duh, ok, then why the fuck do you care to make a comment about an even smaller issue less relevant to you. Ur so called 'settlements' is not the topic of this thread, no more than a fucking Isis Hamas motherfucker ready to chop your head off if he only had the chance. Wft, enough with this fucking israel bashing.

    10. Re: Outer space? by unixisc · · Score: 0

      Interesting - being accused of xenophobia by a dyed in the wool nazi. I could have used anything - Muslim, Mohammedan, Fundamuslimist, et al, and it wouldn't have made a squat of difference

    11. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wtf, more of this shit. It's endless. YOU CANT STEAL SOMETHING THAT WAS ORIGNIALLY YOURS, NOR THAT HAS NO OWNER. Get over it dickhead. Israel is the land of the JEWS. You don't like it, then fuck you. It's less than1% of the Arab land, if the fucking Arabs don't want the so called Palestinians in their land, that's their fucking problem. If it was the other way around, if Jews had 99% of the land, they would welcome all Jews.

      You know what, fine, you want to call it stealing land, ok call it whatever the fuck you want. The point is, Jews won, the other animals lost. GET OVER IT...move on, fucking sore losers. Move on and fucking do something useful with your life. Stop fucking balming everything in your miserable lives on Israel. Fucking idiots. Can't wait until Darwins natural selection rules take effect and all of these racist fuckfaces trinkle off of our evolutionary branch.

    12. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Isis Hamas motherfucker

      ISIS and Hamas are enemies.

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    13. Re: Outer space? by cowwoc2001 · · Score: 1

      Yes, according to an institution where the world's most corrupt leaders vastly outnumber the West, where mass-murderers head the "Human Rights" council and where Israel is held up to vastly higher standards than the rest.

    14. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Yes, according to an institution where the world's most corrupt leaders vastly outnumber the West, where mass-murderers head the "Human Rights" council and where Israel is held up to vastly higher standards than the rest.

      OK, if you don't believe the UN, let's ask some Jews:

      http://livefromoccupiedpalesti...

      http://www.salon.com/2015/06/2...

      http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Z...

      Now please do your best to make ad hominem attacks on those voices, since you don't have any substantive argument to make.

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    15. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same shit....they both have one goal, to destroy the infidel. Abbas is no better. They are just fighting amonsgt themselves for who gets a shot at destroying the world. Let them all kill themselves, then we will have peace. Think: Klingons minus honor plus religious fanatic. Pray hard to whoever you pray to that Israel stand strong and defeats this evil in their neighborhood and continue strong at the front line for protecting the world.

    16. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The majority of Jews and Israelis disagree with the handful of idiots you quoted above. So feel free to quote them all you want, but I will point out that even the KKK had black and Jewish members at one point or another. The world has no shortage of idiots.

    17. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The majority of Jews and Israelis disagree with the handful of idiots you quoted above.

      Do you always go along with the majority opinion?

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    18. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. Hamas is the Palestinian branch of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, which also spawned Al Qaeda, which spawned ISIS. They may compete and have slightly different tactics but do not cool yourself be believing that their ultimate goal is not the same.

    19. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Israel loves borders - the Arabs have a burr up their butts about borders. They refuse to talk to the Israel about borders or ending the conflict.

  15. Re:With Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Secularism helps.

  16. Re: -- JEW trolls bogus 'votes' - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow! Can I also make up some bullshit which will be passed off as a real quote? And with nothing more than a set of "" and - ?

    "You are no troll - too intelligent." - Yogi Berra

  17. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That quote is actually from albert einstein. Or Ghandi. It is a commonly use non referenced quote, which is of course fabricated. But don't believe me. OP, have a source?

  18. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Einstein was a jew, a proven plagerist and fraud. 'kosher nazis' - 'adl kkk jew front'.

  19. Re:You're so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being allies with Saudi Arabia while condemning China is also pretty lame.

  20. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Idk why I'm replying to this nonsense, but this is slashdot, not slashdumb. Everyone can see through your miserable lies. Enough with your hate speach. Go away and never come back. Idk why it is that you hate Jews so much. It's like a bully, who has a low self esteem and looks for others to blame. Maybe the best remedy for you is to become a new yourself and see what it's like.

  21. Re:Finally Peace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wonder whether the moon would retain its status as a symbol of Islam, if all the Jews went there?

  22. To do what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Bomb poor brown people from space?

    1. Re:To do what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brown people behead, stab, stone brown people on earth and use white peoples Internet to advertise their handiwork?

  23. Smart people working togethet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it's an awesome idea. With NASA's budget under stain, any extra help they can get is good. Also, don't forget that micro satellites wetter developed originally in Israel.

  24. They hate us cause they ain't us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You know, all that an article need to do is mention Jews or Israel and all the loser trolls and haters confer out of the woodwork. You never see this kind of hate on the comments of regulars articles.

  25. Re: God help any aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The most stolen land, apartheid, fuck you and your Israeli loving, they are scum thieves and murderers, civilised my ass, they are violent dishonest swine.

  26. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have zero to refute the facts, all you have is JEW troll yammer to distract, desperate to cover up for your scheming tribe, especially now you sprayed the virus and are waiting for the mass cull to start. The jew snivel act, and dupes buying it, is how the jews have managed to slaughter billions, having others kill off their own race, as with the millions in the fraud 'war two', whites killing our own Germanic nordic white kin, for jew LIES so they could take over Europe. So complete has been the jew scheming and the ignorance of the masses, it is actually 'illegal', per bogus 'laws' made up by jews, to even question the 'holocaust' fraud in now five countries, including canada. The fraud 'usa' is next. They do they mass murder, but act the victim, for centuries getting away with mass child rape and 'ritual murder' and all the other schemes of destruction. They made up communism so everyone else drowns in scum parasites, while the millions in jew tribe rise above all.
    'walter white rosenthal interview' at archive.org

    "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves" - Menachem Begin

    "We Jews are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." - Maurice Samuel

  27. Re:You're so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would you rather be a Muslim in Israel, or a Jew in pretty much any Muslim country?

    Why the false dichotomies?

    Why can't each person individually mix and match whatever they happen to like from all the various religions and cultures around the world? Would it really be so wrong if some guy from Japan wanted to go live in the middle east and eat palak paneer while wearing a sombrero and listening to Beethoven?

    And why does a country have to be either Jewish or Muslim? The USA was founded on the principle of religious freedom - letting each person choose their religion individually. Is religious freedom really such a bad thing?

    At a somewhat superficial level, it seems that, as a matter of basic fairness, in the long term either everyone gets to discriminate or no one gets to discriminate. In the long term, you can't have a situation where one particular group of people is like "We get to discriminate against all of you but you aren't allowed to discriminate against us." With that in mind, it seems that policies like a Jewish (only) "right of return" to Israel are going to be a problem in the longer term.

    More fundamentally, though, the idea of trying to deal out justice at a collective racial or ethnic or religious level seems to me to be deeply problematic. Suppose some black person steals a television from some white person so you throw some other random black person in jail and give some other random white person a new television. Is that justice? It hardly seems like it. That's not to say that it's wrong to help someone who is down or their luck or who has even been actively persecuted. But if we say that we will only help a person in need if they are a member of a particular race or ethnic group or religion, then that seems very unfair. In a world where 20,000 children a day die of poverty, there are a lot of people who would benefit from being able to move to a different country for a better life. Why not help them all - regardless of race or ethnicity or religion?

    In one future, every race and ethnic group and religion is huddled together in fear on its own little piece of land, nursing ancient grievances and stockpiling nuclear weapons in preparation for a final nuclear armageddon. In the other future, everyone renounces discrimination and lives and works and travels throughout the world - experiencing all the vibrant diversity and each choosing for themselves who to be without regard to the race or ethnicity or religion that they were born into.

    At the end of the day, it's not really about Israel, it's about whether we want to live in a world of freedom - free from discrimination and artificial barriers to living our lives to the fullest.

  28. Re: With Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Turns out the US and Isrial had an agreement on 9/11 also.

    Youtube 9/11 experts speak out

  29. -- JEW troll frauds - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, don't want to be you. JEWS are FRAUDS and RAPE CHILDREN, and all over the web jew trolls Lie and DISTRACT from the fraud schemes of the JEW tribe, the 'isreal' fraud, the 'holocaust' fraud, the 'govt' fraud, every 'media' fraud. Anything to distract especially now the VIRUS has been sprayed for the cull and JEWS are excited for all the slaughter about to happen and all the children jews are going to rape and kill, the virus is designed to kill nordic white adults, but not 'white' skin ashkenazi race, who are different genetic group.
    The virus designed to kill adults but not children so they jews will have million of children to rape and 'jewish ritual murder'.

    Just look at the snivel jew act by that troll, snivel snivel as they get ready for their biggest mass murder in all of history. Chemtrail virus courtesy of the lying fake acting mass murdering jews.

    1. Re:-- JEW troll frauds - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you should an hero.

  30. - Lying JEW trolls - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    JEW troll, still desperate, now claiming 'made up quotes', They're ALL OVER THE NET because they're QUOTE from JEWS

    Your greasy chld raping tribe is about to slaughter hundreds of million with your CHEMTRAIL VIRUS, that kills other races while the jews walk through. Why be so desperate, afraid people will all of a sudden realize what you've done and make tribes and go after the millions in your arrogant tribe. Your supremacist jew act worked well on the dupes so far, why worry now. Your CHEMTRAIL VIRUS will probably go off without a hitch.

    For those who don't want to sit and be murdered by the jews, copy the first post, give links and info to others -

    1. Re:- Lying JEW trolls - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CHEMTRAIL VIRUS? Is that how you came to acquire your obvious brain damage?

    2. Re:- Lying JEW trolls - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not actually going to pretend we're not being sprayed by your tribe JEW troll. You and the millions in your child raping mass murdering tribe have over 100 Trillion in weapons, have been spraying everyone with nano chips that don't affect you jews but implant in everyone else, and you have now sprayed a virus that's going to kill of the rest of the white race, then will go the hispanics and blacks, then the rest until none left by your 'morgellons' 'transhuman' chinese slaves. You know, the chineez dupes you've been brainwashing to pretend they're 'smart' n 'special' so they don't suspect they're the final slave race.

      Chemtrail VIRUS, by Race - newworldwar.org/chemical.htm - ignore notes at bottom, skip rest of site.

      thezog.info

    3. Re:- Lying JEW trolls - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did you come to avoid being infected by the CHEMTRAIL VIRUS?

      How do you dress? Do you cover you eyes, nose and mouth to avoid being infected? Do you wear a surgical mask? Stay indoors 24/7 in your bunker in your mothers basement?

      How do you know who has been infected by a CHEMTRAIL VIRUS? Who has isolated this virus? Has the DNA of your CHEMTRAIL VIRUS been sequence?

      How do you know whether you have been infected?

  31. Re:With Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still upset that your side lost WW2?

  32. Re:-JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Carter, is that you?

  33. Re:-- JEW trolls bogus 'votes' - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The words you're looking for are "zionism" and "hasbara" - not all jews subscribe to all bullshit done in the name of Israel.

  34. Re:You're so negative by jbolden · · Score: 1

    What you are describing as your goal is a one world government. In that sort of scenario citizenship in a particular country isn't particularly important, people don't have much loyalty to their country and people and goods travel fairly freely through the world. That's what you have with empire not a world of nation states. An empire is constructed in such a way that the effectual top government is not particularly tied to the people it governs, rather they are just resources. And because they are just resources that government wants to reduce friction caused by culture. So nationality is downplayed.

    The reason people don't like that is that they want a government that is more responsive i.e. a government which agrees with them on fundamental questions about the nature of the good. You can't have both a one world government and a government that is responsive to the governed. That's the downside of your vision.

  35. Re:You're so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, less about the one world government and more just that all the countries of the world just agree not to discriminate.

  36. Re:-- JEW trolls bogus 'votes' - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NO, JEW TROLL, your BS doesn't work here. You JEWS are a RACE, not just a religion, and when you attempt to default to the 'good jew' BS act, still caling yourself a 'jew' by religion, that only confirms you're a JEW supremacist scumbag. Your child rape 'talimud' your 'war god' bs 'torah' 'old testament', your choice to claim to be 'jew' by religion is the mark. Of course many racial jews in the killer tribe don't bother with the religious angle as much now but your type still do. When it comes to running jew bs, you're way out of your league with me jew. Why don't you just be happy with the mass murdering chemtraill virus your tribe has sprayed that's about to mass slaughter other races. Why bother keeping up the BS jew yammer now. Since your tribe made the viruses to kill by race and age, so it kills adults but not children so you get to rape and butcher all the kids you want to, what's you're problem. Afraid people might get off their asses last minute and dig you jew liars out of your holes or what.

    Save your 'it's just da zionists' bs.

    thezog.info
    http://jewishcrimenetworkdid911.blogspot.com/
    http://web.archive.org/web/20100825152627/http://jewishfaces.com/banking.html - all pages at top

    I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, hollywood, wall street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them. - Joel Stein LA Times 2009

    Communism was Jewish created, Jewish proposed, Jewish financed, Jewish led and Jewish operated. The most muderous regime this planet has ever known, Jewish through & through. - Maurice Pinay

    "We Jews are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." - Maurice Samuel

    "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves" - Menachem Begin

    “We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America.” - The Jew 1925 Zinobit

  37. Re:You're so negative by r1348 · · Score: 1

    Ultimately utopistic. Nations will still compete for access to natural resources, and will feed nationalisms and cultural particolarisms in order to do so. Access to oil and water supplies plays a major part in the current Middle East situation. Cultural, racial and religious identities are just tools in this struggle, even if the media will try to pass a simplicistic good vs. evil scenario.

  38. Jew holo fraud Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only 'side' that lost in the JEW FRAUD 'war two' was the nordic white race who killed each other following Jew LIES. There was No so-called 'holocaust'. Only 280k people died in the Labor camps from natural causes while over 20 Million nordic whites killed each other in the fake 'war' based on jew LIES. Search 'judea declares war on germany'. The jews took over russia then europe using 'usa' scum military dupes and 'tax' dupes paid for jew world takeover
    - thezog.info - also search holohoax, leucter report at archive.org -
      The jews direct the killing then sit back and do the victim act.
    http://jewishcrimenetworkdid911.blogspot.com/
    Give info to others, make tribes and stop them. No one is gong to 'save' you. Chemtrail virus.

    1. Re:Jew holo fraud Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only 'side' that lost in the JEW FRAUD 'war two' was the nordic white race who killed each other following Jew LIES. There was No so-called 'holocaust'. Only 280k people died in the Labor camps from natural causes while over 20 Million nordic whites killed each other in the fake 'war' based on jew LIES. Search 'judea declares war on germany'. The jews took over russia then europe using 'usa' scum military dupes and 'tax' dupes paid for jew world takeover - thezog.info - also search holohoax, leucter report at archive.org - The jews direct the killing then sit back and do the victim act. http://jewishcrimenetworkdid91... Give info to others, make tribes and stop them. No one is gong to 'save' you. Chemtrail virus.

      The reason you believe all this stuff - is because you're stupid. Gullible, and stupid.

    2. Re:Jew holo fraud Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your fellow nazi scum didn't SURRENDER, UNCONDITIONALLY to the US, UK and SU on May 7th, 1945? Your furher didn't kill himself and his first female bride in his Berlin bunker on April 30, 1945? Your furher didn't declare War on the US four days after Imperial Japan bombed Pearl Harbor - the US responding by declaring War on nazi Germany?

      Tell us more.

    3. Re:Jew holo fraud Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look jew, YOUR scum race has either directly or indirectly killed most of masses, and, you're greasy tribe is about to kill the rest with your chemtrail virus. You have nothing more than to post part of my comment, then just slobber 'you're stupid' under it, as if you have no understanding how stupid that makes you look, as you are calling me stupid. The reason you are left with that, is because you cannot refute the facts. No only is there ZERO proof of any 'holocaust' there is proof there was not and could not have been.

      1) There were fewer than 3 million jews in greater Europe before you scumbags started your bogus 'war' to take over Europe and genocide the Germans.
      Many jews left before their 'war' started.

      2) The Red Cross kept thorough record, the total number of deaths from ALL the Labor camps was fewer than 280k, not just jews, also other criminals.

      3) It is proven fact via Leuchter that it was impossible to have 'gas chambers' and 'ovens' in the same vicinity as your liars couldn't get your story straight, as you started making up the 'holocaust' bullshit years After the so called war, it was gas, or ovens, now it's both. All bullshit.

      4) 'zyklon b' is a delousing agent, which the Germans had to make much use of, as you jews had a thing for keeping lice on you. A lot of them.

      5) The crematorium 'ovens' at Auschwitz, for cremation of those died of natural cause, was roughly the size of a two-car garage.

      The lists of the obvious, which make your holo fraud claims ridiculous, is long. But all of this is secondary to your butcher of the Germans at Dresden, which was the ONLY and a REAL holocaust that happened, and it happened at the direction of scum jews and by scum british and scum 'mericun' troops firebombing innocent refugees, hundreds of thousands of them, burning them alive. Then there is the scum jew 'eisenhower' death camps, where scum 'mericun' troops sat and watched masses their racial German brothers die of starvation and disease.

      The jews are murderers while acting the victim. Every piece of history, opposite of the jew lies.

      For those just now getting informed, the mass cull of the phony 'usa' is next on the jew list. Get off your ass. No one is going to save you. Chemtrail virus.

  39. Re:You're so negative by jbolden · · Score: 2

    How could countries that have strong national identities not discriminate? The whole purpose of the state is to be the agency for collective of the nation. Nations by their very nature have strong cultural and often ethnic identities. To not discriminate the state can't be the collective agency for nations.

  40. Re:You're so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Israel will lose interest once they realise there are no Palestinian women in space to kick in the back.

  41. Bogus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jews made up the scum 'jesus' fables using pagan myths also the 'mohammed' nonsense, all control dupes while the JEW took over the world.
    Using other races under jew directed 'church' cons to kill each other, now the jew takes it all. 'turn the other cheek' 'love your enemy' is suicide. The jews are a RACE, their own religion they made up as manual for world takeover. 'torah' 'old testament' 'jealous war god' and 'talmud' for jews, and gay 'jeezus' 'turn the other cheek' for dupes.

    The ashkenazi jews are a race. There is no 'heaven' and no 'reward' for allowing yourself and children to be killed by the jews.

    chemtrail virus.

    thezog.info

  42. Organized religion by WarrenWard · · Score: 1

    You make an uneducated rash statement you cannot back up.

    1. Re:Organized religion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually there were 5 Israelis who were caught filming the 9/11 attacks while they happened and were cheering and high-fiving each other while the towers collapsed and people died. They were deported and later went on Israeli tv and claimed that their purpose for being in NY on 9/11 was to "document the event".

      Israeli IM service Odigo sent messages to it's employees in WTC a full 2 hours before the attacks warning them to get out. The new WTC owner Larry Silverstein (Jew) made over $4 Billion from 9/11 attacks, and was mysteriously not in WTC when the attacks happened. Every day, except on 9/11, he had breakfast at Windows of the World. In fact, his family also worked at WTC and none of them just happened to be there during 9/11.

      Two Israelis left a truck bomb on King and 6th with a mural depicting a plane crashing into the towers, which later exploded. The Israelis were arrested and deported. The truck belonged to "Urban Moving Systems", a Mossad front company, one of several containing terrorist Jews (Mossad).

      The largest spy ring ever uncovered in USA happened before, during and after 9/11 - over 200 Israeli spies were arrested and deported. Two days after the report, FOX news pulled all 4 videos and all of the transcripts.

        As a result of 9/11, people were brainwashed into believing that muslims are evil terrorists and the world was duped into supporting a 'war on terrorism' against the muslim people - Israel's sworn enemy. What a coincidence!

      Of course, Bush promoted the "evil muslim terrorist" conspiracy, and today there are still idiots in the world who would rather believe Bush's bullshit than the factual reality that Israel was heavily involved in 9/11.

    2. Re:Organized religion by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      King and 6th bomb. Funny how nobody heard about it until about 10 years later. Please come up with news articles or blogs written in September 2001. (Not 2010)

      I lived in Brooklyn. Debris (paper) from the WTC was in my yard. I worked in Jersey City and took the Path train from WTC everyday. I followed the news intensely at the time. I never heard of these events you're mentioning.

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      Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
    3. Re:Organized religion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I never heard of these events you're mentioning."

      Then you weren't really paying attention, were you? White moving vans with bombs were reported several times that day by mainstream media.

      This is an NYPD transmission from 9/11 released under FOIA.

    4. Re:Organized religion by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      ABC did extensive reporting on much of it, including the Jews watching the attack and cheering, and their connection to Mossad and their subsequent deportation, and that was reported in a prime time special just in the month after the event. Your ignorance does not change that. Do your homework next time.

      --
      I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
    5. Re: Organized religion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the fuck up you fucking lie spreading hate monger. Take you delusions and demented conspiracy theories to some other hate forums where they belong. Fuck you.

    6. Re:Organized religion by JohnStock · · Score: 1

      It's a very educated and not sheeplike comment like yours is

  43. Correction to headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Unites States and Israel Sign Space Warfare Agreement.

  44. the kikes are leaving?! yay peace on earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just take your more retarded offshoot (aka islam) with you

  45. Re:You're so negative by dave420 · · Score: 1

    Did no one ever teach you that two wrongs don't make a right? If every country was contented to just not be the worst, what would that do to the world?

    Grow up. The future begs you.

  46. Re:With Jews by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    Sadly, no. :( Although I like Trevor Noah well enough to keep watching, I thought -- still think -- Stewart was about as good as you can get at the job he created. Not that I agreed with everything he said, or thought all the takes they took on various issues were correct, but damn he could make me laugh. Credit to the show's writers as well, of course, but Stewart's delivery is what made it work. What a sly way he had about him as a comic. Gave great face, as it were.

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  47. Re: God help any aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok,there..... your a fucking racist pig......your comment is proof of your fucking ignorance

  48. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot. You don't know the difference from fact and delusions, all spun for you hate. Get over it, Jews are here to stay, they have been here for 5000 years, and no matter what you say or do, they will outsmart idiots such as yourself, which is not that hard to do. They have been through worse and always triumphed. So live with it, you little piece of shit.

  49. Evidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not one to believe that Jews are behind everything; but when we see a pattern of constant advanced technology being developed in tiny war torn Israel, and most of this stuff can't be obtained even in the U.S. It gets hard to believe that anymore.

    I'm still not convinced, but the pattern is there. It makes no sense for Israel to have such technology or for such an agreement.

  50. Re: You're so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck you, you fucking lie spreading hate monger. ISRAEL LIVES, so deal with it fuckface.

  51. Fuck Israel! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck Israel and the deceptive terrorist child raping Jews!

    1. Re: Fuck Israel! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, go fuck yourself you little piece of shit. It's people like you that eventually vanish and are long forgotten. ISAEL IS HERE TO SAY, so stop with your lies and learn to live in peace with others, otherwise, fuck off.

  52. Sums it up nicely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you question Israel in any way you are an anti-semite and a holocaust denier. If you are Jewish and question Israel, you are a self-hater.

    "To find out who rules you, find out who you cannot criticize" - Voltaire

  53. A Potentially Valuable Agreement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Interestingly, Israel is the smallest country in the world with an indigenous space launch capability. It also seems to have a significant and complex space research program and infrastructure dating back to the 1960s, and specializing in nano and micro satellites. It has signed agreements with the space agencies of France (CNES), Canada (CSA), India (ISRO), Germany (DLR), Ukraine (NSAU), Russia (RKA), Netherlands (NIVR) and Brazil (AEB), so it's not a surprise they are signing an agreement with NASA.

  54. Will Israel pay their part with... by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

    U.S. Taxpayer money? Seems to me it wasn't that long ago that Israel begged America fo a bunch of money to buy missiles to level a Palestinian city. If they can't afford bombing people who should be their friends and brothers, what good would they be for helping with space exploration?

  55. Re: You're so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol. Israel is a terrorist state, and probably the greatest geo-political mistake of all time. Deal with it.

  56. It's the only way to be sure ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that Iran doesn't get the bomb too

  57. Re:With Jews by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 1

    I assume you'd like the US to snuggle up with Islamic nations instead, correct?

  58. Re:You're so negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To not discriminate the state can't be the collective agency for nations.

    So you're saying that the USA, and every other country except Israel, should discriminate against Jewish people? For that matter, are you arguing that the Nazi death camps were OK because the German government was simply being a "collective agency" for the Aryan nation?

    In the longer term, everyone's going to have to play by the same rules: either it's OK for everyone to discriminate or it's not OK for anyone to discriminate.

  59. Re:You're so negative by jbolden · · Score: 1

    The USA has an idealogical identity and most certainly does discriminate against people who aren't part of the nation. Constant subtle pressure is applied. America even prides itself on being a melting pot. For example look at the wage discrepancy between: fluent unaccented English vs. accented English vs. monolingual non-English in the USA. Or for another example how the educational system undermines strong tribal bonds.

    Jews in most nations including 1930s Germany were fully or almost fully assimilated.

  60. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU shut the fuck up you CHILD RAPING 'jewish ritual murder' scum bag. You JEWS have mass murdered over a billion people, the same time you JEWS work your bogus 'victim' act, your post 'hate' snivel, notice in your slobber rant you still have NO refutation of the FACTS in my posts. You supremacist jews are 'here to stay' because you butcher other races, and idiots allow your supremacist jew schemes, too stupid to stop your child raping mass murdering scheming tribe. Idiots keep sitting on their asses while being SPRAYED by your tribe, of course you know all about the virus you sprayed, time release set to start the cull shortly. You distract and screech because you don't want the dupes to dig your out of your holes and give you what you deserve before YOU kill with your virus.
    Save your screeching bullshit distraction for the dupes.

    For anyone else reading, feel free to get off your ass. No one is coming to 'save' you. Chemtrail virus.

    thezog.info

  61. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you suffering from this "chemtrail virus" too?

    Does it eat your brain? How much of it is left? Will you donate your remains to a medical school or a medical oddity museum?

  62. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The scum JEW troll has nothing but juvenile distraction slobber. The CHEMTRAIL VIRUS you sprayed is about to show up and You jews don't want the masses to dig you out of your scum holes and give you what you deserve before the virus breaks. Take your killer bio virus and fck off.
    --
    For those that don't know we're being sprayed by the scum jew fake 'govt' see first 20 mins -

    -archive.org/details/DontTalkAboutTheWeather_451 The haze in the air is nano chips, other content- www.willthomasonline.net/Nano_Chemtrails.html - the contents far more than described, we're breathing the nano chips, other content. For 'wireless' brain surveillance, control by 'smart grid'. Their chemtrails also to cause the drought and flood so they can assault at will, also control the food supply. If you've been duped by the jew fake 'alternative media' about 'haarp' it's disinfo. The towers everywhere are not 'cell', they direct wind, storms, cause lightning, earthquake, the low on-off hum you hear at night. All cell is satellite. Don't 'follow' any of the chemtrail sites, all psy ops 'lead the opposition'. Make your own tribes. No one will stop the jew but you. Chemtrail virus.

    As for what jews do to children - skrewdriver.net/ritual.html

    Copy this, and other jew posts above with other links. Get off your ass. The scum jews are at the last of their plans. No one is coming to 'save' you. The proof is the fact you're being SPRAYED.

  63. Re: -JEW troll 'kkk' bs - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the fuck is this delusional troll. I though people like you were extinct. Go fuck yourselves you little piece of shit...you will long be forgotten about with no history of your existence, and take your mental problems with you...the Jews have and will continue to endure scum bags like you and overcome all your shit that may come their way, as they have in the past 3000 years....whatever fucking virus your talking about, I hope you get it. So fuck off dickhead...wtf, Hijacking free speech to spread hate and like. Fuck you.

  64. Hmmm, first mention of "Palestine" ... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

    ... is the last message thread. And I'm catching up several days after the event. I'm getting a message here, and it's one of political influence, not one of reliable data.

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