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The United States and Israel Sign Space Cooperation Agreement (israelnationalnews.com)

MarkWhittington writes: According to a story in Arutz Sheva, NASA Administrator Charles Bolden and Israel Space Agency Director General Menachem Kidron signed an agreement to further future space cooperation between the two countries. The agreement took place at the International Astronautical Conference taking place in Jerusalem. The agreement restores a previous commitment for space cooperation between the two countries that lapsed in 2005. The current agreement will have a far greater scope than the previous one.

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  1. So.... by NecroPuppy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mel Brooks was right?

    (It's not obscure; this is Slashdot)

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    1. Re:So.... by jd.schmidt · · Score: 1

      Bah, you beat me to it. Well done sir!

  2. AWESOME! by harrkev · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow! It is great to hear about one country in that part of the world who is interested in rockets WITHOUT explosives attached. Good job, Israel!

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    1. Re:AWESOME! by harrkev · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You realise that you're talking about Israel, an actual nuclear-weapon-equipped power, right? This is part of why the region is as it is.

      I can't believe that I am replying to an anonymous coward, but you could not be more wrong.

      Israel has had nukes for DECADES. How many times have they used one? (hint: the number is an integer between -0.5 and +0.5)

      If Iran or Syria had a nuke, how long would they wait to use it? Weeks? Hours?

      When has Israel ever used force? Only when provoked.

      At least Israel HAS an interest in technology that does not go "boom." If you will recall, the Intel Core Architecture was invented in Israel (derived from Pentium M). Israel is actually a hotbed of technology and science. See here.

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    2. Re:AWESOME! by guantamanera · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When has Israel ever used force? Only when provoked.

      So expelling Palestinians from lands their then razing their homes to the ground to build Israeli settlements is not a provocation? The Israelis government does many more provoking things but the world just keeps turning a blind eye.

    3. Re:AWESOME! by jbolden · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Your language is a little biased. How about talking in terms of populations shifting in locations over time. The neighborhood my parents grew up in went from German to Irish to Jewish to Black to Puerto Rican to Mexican over the course of the last 150 years. During that time buildings were torn down and put up. We didn't call it "Mexicans razing Black and Puerto Rican homes to build Mexican settlements". Neighborhoods change ethnic composition. Within Israel areas have gone from Ashkenazi to Mizrahi and no one talks about razing homes and building settlements.

      In Israel there shouldn't be any Palestinian homes. While different ethnicities of Israelis live in those homes, all homes in Israel should all be Israeli.

    4. Re:AWESOME! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a difference if a Person BUYS a house and razes it down to build a new one versus Israeli moving with bulldozers into Palestinian settlements and destroying them.


      In Israel there shouldn't be any Palestinian homes. While different ethnicities of Israelis live in those homes, all homes in Israel should all be Israeli.

      Half of Israel is conquered by Israelians ... and does not really belong to that country ... expulsion/eviction of war victims is forbidden by international law.

      I hope your statement above was a lame joke.

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    5. Re:AWESOME! by jbolden · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well first off in Israel individuals can't own land they can only lease it from a few agencies. Those agencies, or their Yishuv forbearers, have a long history of buying land going back to the late 19th century.

      As for "conquered" everything on the planet has been conquered at some point. Stuff gets conquered and the people living their form new societies. Pretty clearly the people who live in Israel proper, Jerusalem and Area-C want to be under the rule of the Israeli government. International law allows for self determination and people living within a territory to recognize sovereigns. One can argue about Area-A, Area-B where there is no desire to recognize Israel as the government but you can't make that claim over most of Israel.

      As for eviction of war victims. If you are talking about 1948 both the people who did it and the people who were evicted are dead. If you are talking about later, then of course it is forbidden. But that's not what's happening. States are free to reallocate their land to different purposes. In the USA we call that rezoning and it is routine, we don't treat it as a human rights violation.

    6. Re:AWESOME! by Maritz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When has Israel ever used force? Only when provoked.

      LOL. Doesn't take much to 'provoke' them does it.

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    7. Re:AWESOME! by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      Obligatory. If you go back far enough the land always belonged to someone else.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    8. Re:AWESOME! by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      How many times have they used one?

      Israel, we are so proud of you: in your efforts to wipe out your fellow Semites (let's ignore for now the fact that most Jews aren't actually even Semitic), you've been remarkably restrained in not breaking out the nukes that you developed (well, with the help of pro-apartheid South Africa and very likely the CIA). I can't even imagine how you weren't tempted to use these in Palestine; rolling over unarmed civilians in armored bulldozers must have seemed so anti-climactic compared to the kind of fun you could have been having.

      When has Israel ever used force? Only when provoked.

      Your Koolaid is lacking effectiveness; it's beginning to smell like [gefilte] fish. ;)

    9. Re:AWESOME! by chilenexus · · Score: 1

      > The neighborhood my parents grew up in went from German to Irish to Jewish to Black to Puerto Rican to Mexican over the course of the last 150 years.

      Damn, you got some old parents. How are they doing now?

    10. Re:AWESOME! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Israel has lands occupied, which don't belong tomits territory, Siani, West Jordan Land, the Golan hills.
      There they destroy houses of Palestinians and sometimes support Israelian settlers, that is what I'm talking about.

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    11. Re:AWESOME! by jbolden · · Score: 1

      Israel has lands occupied, which don't belong tomits territory

      I addressed that above, the people living in those territories view Israel as their sovereign. The Golan is either Druze or Israeli the population is enthusiastic about Israeli rule. Area-C west of the Jordan, where the Israelis live is several hundred thousands Israelis and about 60k Palestinians. The Sinai is in Egypt, no Israelis live there.

    12. Re:AWESOME! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Does not change the fact that Israelis "invaded" those areas regularly, destroyed towns with bulldozers and settled Israeli "Settlers" there.

      The topic was about: destroying sttlements and displacing the inhabitants. Isreal did that the last 40 years regularly.

      And I doubt that

      I addressed that above, the people living in those territories view Israel as their sovereign. What wet dream is that? Like east Germany accepted the USSR as their sovereign?

      The Sinai is in Egypt, no Israelis live there.
      So you are like 16?

      Sinai was occupied by Israel just a few years ago ... it was given back to Egypt ... 5 years, 10 years ago?

      Anyway, does not change the fact they destroyed houses and settlements there. No idea about Israeli settlements.

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  3. Re:With Jews by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Funny

    <you know the tone I'm using here>My son, the astronaut. He never calls. He never writes. Something about delays, transmission delays maybe, i don't know, but never calls, doesn't write eithuh, no never, and what am I, chopped liveh? He couldn't stay on earth, and take care of his mother, like a good boy, no, he had to go gallavanting all over like a big shot, while I sit here, no one to take care of me... Not like my husband, Mortimer. Mortimer! MORTIMER! BRING ME MY TEA!<end tone>

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  4. Re:You're so negative by harrkev · · Score: 1

    So, it is better to rely on Russia for all of our space needs? Name one other proven way to get living human beings to the ISS.

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  5. Re:Mad Magazine Has Returned? by AndyKron · · Score: 1
  6. Re:You're so negative by harrkev · · Score: 1

    Much much better to work with those lovely fluffy Israelis. What have THEY ever done against human rights?

    Hmmm. Would you rather be a Muslim in Israel, or a Jew in pretty much any Muslim country? Please explain which you would choose, why, and what your expected life span would be.

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  7. Re:With Jews by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    My son, the astronaut. He never calls. He never writes. Something about delays, transmission delays maybe, i don't know, but never calls, doesn't write eithuh, no never, and what am I, chopped liveh? He couldn't stay on earth, and take care of his mother, like a good boy, no, he had to go gallavanting all over like a big shot, while I sit here, no one to take care of me... Not like my husband, Mortimer. Mortimer! MORTIMER! BRING ME MY TEA!

    You sound verklempt, bubbeleh. Unless you're just hakn a tshaynik.

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  8. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And FYI: there is noting wrong with building settlements on your land.

    But that's not all the only place they build, is it?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  9. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    So leave israel out of your fucking snide remarks and spend your energy on more serious problems like the fucking fundamentalist that want nothing less but to chop your infidel head off.

    I live in the Northern part of the US, so I don't really encounter a lot of the fundamentalists. They're only a small percentage of Christians, anyway.

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  10. Re: Outer space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You can easily be that ignorant. Truth is the Israelis live on stolen land, and are vicious thieves. Fuck you and you shilling for them.
    The truth hurts them, so they pay cunt shills like you to pretend they have support. Mindless fucking worm.

  11. Re: With Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Turns out the US and Isrial had an agreement on 9/11 also.

    Youtube 9/11 experts speak out

  12. Re:You're so negative by jbolden · · Score: 1

    What you are describing as your goal is a one world government. In that sort of scenario citizenship in a particular country isn't particularly important, people don't have much loyalty to their country and people and goods travel fairly freely through the world. That's what you have with empire not a world of nation states. An empire is constructed in such a way that the effectual top government is not particularly tied to the people it governs, rather they are just resources. And because they are just resources that government wants to reduce friction caused by culture. So nationality is downplayed.

    The reason people don't like that is that they want a government that is more responsive i.e. a government which agrees with them on fundamental questions about the nature of the good. You can't have both a one world government and a government that is responsive to the governed. That's the downside of your vision.

  13. Re: Outer space? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

    There is no difference in Muzzies, who have since 700AD overrun large parts of Asia and Africa versus Christians overrunning the Americas, Asia and uh oh, Europe.

    Or have you forgotten that _all_ of the Europeans where _non christians_ before roughly 400AD?

    I for my part hate it to be sourrounded by all those Christians who have forgotten the prime doctrins of their religion.

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  14. Re:You're so negative by r1348 · · Score: 1

    Ultimately utopistic. Nations will still compete for access to natural resources, and will feed nationalisms and cultural particolarisms in order to do so. Access to oil and water supplies plays a major part in the current Middle East situation. Cultural, racial and religious identities are just tools in this struggle, even if the media will try to pass a simplicistic good vs. evil scenario.

  15. Re:You're so negative by jbolden · · Score: 2

    How could countries that have strong national identities not discriminate? The whole purpose of the state is to be the agency for collective of the nation. Nations by their very nature have strong cultural and often ethnic identities. To not discriminate the state can't be the collective agency for nations.

  16. Organized religion by WarrenWard · · Score: 1

    You make an uneducated rash statement you cannot back up.

    1. Re:Organized religion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually there were 5 Israelis who were caught filming the 9/11 attacks while they happened and were cheering and high-fiving each other while the towers collapsed and people died. They were deported and later went on Israeli tv and claimed that their purpose for being in NY on 9/11 was to "document the event".

      Israeli IM service Odigo sent messages to it's employees in WTC a full 2 hours before the attacks warning them to get out. The new WTC owner Larry Silverstein (Jew) made over $4 Billion from 9/11 attacks, and was mysteriously not in WTC when the attacks happened. Every day, except on 9/11, he had breakfast at Windows of the World. In fact, his family also worked at WTC and none of them just happened to be there during 9/11.

      Two Israelis left a truck bomb on King and 6th with a mural depicting a plane crashing into the towers, which later exploded. The Israelis were arrested and deported. The truck belonged to "Urban Moving Systems", a Mossad front company, one of several containing terrorist Jews (Mossad).

      The largest spy ring ever uncovered in USA happened before, during and after 9/11 - over 200 Israeli spies were arrested and deported. Two days after the report, FOX news pulled all 4 videos and all of the transcripts.

        As a result of 9/11, people were brainwashed into believing that muslims are evil terrorists and the world was duped into supporting a 'war on terrorism' against the muslim people - Israel's sworn enemy. What a coincidence!

      Of course, Bush promoted the "evil muslim terrorist" conspiracy, and today there are still idiots in the world who would rather believe Bush's bullshit than the factual reality that Israel was heavily involved in 9/11.

    2. Re:Organized religion by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      King and 6th bomb. Funny how nobody heard about it until about 10 years later. Please come up with news articles or blogs written in September 2001. (Not 2010)

      I lived in Brooklyn. Debris (paper) from the WTC was in my yard. I worked in Jersey City and took the Path train from WTC everyday. I followed the news intensely at the time. I never heard of these events you're mentioning.

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    3. Re:Organized religion by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      ABC did extensive reporting on much of it, including the Jews watching the attack and cheering, and their connection to Mossad and their subsequent deportation, and that was reported in a prime time special just in the month after the event. Your ignorance does not change that. Do your homework next time.

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    4. Re:Organized religion by JohnStock · · Score: 1

      It's a very educated and not sheeplike comment like yours is

  17. Re: Outer space? by dave420 · · Score: 1

    "Muzzies"? Really? Are you 11 years old? The rest of your post contained absolutely nothing of any use to anyone - just a rambling about something which has absolutely no bearing on the subject at hand, drenched in xenophobia and reeking of abject, comfortable ignorance.

    Clearly you'd not want Jewish settlements if you just happened to be born where Israel wants to build a settlement, as you'd be absolutely fucked. But as that doesn't fit into your wonderfully childish worldview, I'm sure you'll ignore that and carry on attacking people who are different to you, for no other reason than your tiny, scared mind yearns to do so.

    Your ignorance is astounding, and your desire to be ignorant even more so.

  18. Re:You're so negative by dave420 · · Score: 1

    Did no one ever teach you that two wrongs don't make a right? If every country was contented to just not be the worst, what would that do to the world?

    Grow up. The future begs you.

  19. Re:With Jews by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    Sadly, no. :( Although I like Trevor Noah well enough to keep watching, I thought -- still think -- Stewart was about as good as you can get at the job he created. Not that I agreed with everything he said, or thought all the takes they took on various issues were correct, but damn he could make me laugh. Credit to the show's writers as well, of course, but Stewart's delivery is what made it work. What a sly way he had about him as a comic. Gave great face, as it were.

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  20. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Isis Hamas motherfucker

    ISIS and Hamas are enemies.

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  21. Sums it up nicely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you question Israel in any way you are an anti-semite and a holocaust denier. If you are Jewish and question Israel, you are a self-hater.

    "To find out who rules you, find out who you cannot criticize" - Voltaire

  22. A Potentially Valuable Agreement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Interestingly, Israel is the smallest country in the world with an indigenous space launch capability. It also seems to have a significant and complex space research program and infrastructure dating back to the 1960s, and specializing in nano and micro satellites. It has signed agreements with the space agencies of France (CNES), Canada (CSA), India (ISRO), Germany (DLR), Ukraine (NSAU), Russia (RKA), Netherlands (NIVR) and Brazil (AEB), so it's not a surprise they are signing an agreement with NASA.

  23. Will Israel pay their part with... by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

    U.S. Taxpayer money? Seems to me it wasn't that long ago that Israel begged America fo a bunch of money to buy missiles to level a Palestinian city. If they can't afford bombing people who should be their friends and brothers, what good would they be for helping with space exploration?

  24. Re: Outer space? by cowwoc2001 · · Score: 1

    Yes, according to an institution where the world's most corrupt leaders vastly outnumber the West, where mass-murderers head the "Human Rights" council and where Israel is held up to vastly higher standards than the rest.

  25. Re:With Jews by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 1

    I assume you'd like the US to snuggle up with Islamic nations instead, correct?

  26. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Yes, according to an institution where the world's most corrupt leaders vastly outnumber the West, where mass-murderers head the "Human Rights" council and where Israel is held up to vastly higher standards than the rest.

    OK, if you don't believe the UN, let's ask some Jews:

    http://livefromoccupiedpalesti...

    http://www.salon.com/2015/06/2...

    http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Z...

    Now please do your best to make ad hominem attacks on those voices, since you don't have any substantive argument to make.

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  27. Re: Outer space? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    The majority of Jews and Israelis disagree with the handful of idiots you quoted above.

    Do you always go along with the majority opinion?

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  28. Re:You're so negative by jbolden · · Score: 1

    The USA has an idealogical identity and most certainly does discriminate against people who aren't part of the nation. Constant subtle pressure is applied. America even prides itself on being a melting pot. For example look at the wage discrepancy between: fluent unaccented English vs. accented English vs. monolingual non-English in the USA. Or for another example how the educational system undermines strong tribal bonds.

    Jews in most nations including 1930s Germany were fully or almost fully assimilated.

  29. Hmmm, first mention of "Palestine" ... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

    ... is the last message thread. And I'm catching up several days after the event. I'm getting a message here, and it's one of political influence, not one of reliable data.

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