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A Scientist Is Selling the Right To Name His Newly-Discovered Moth On eBay (vice.com)

Posted by samzenpus on from the there-are-some-who-call-it-tim dept.

sarahnaomi writes: An entomologist has decided to use eBay to auction off the naming rights for a newly-discovered species of moth. When a new species is discovered, the honor of naming it goes to whoever found it. However, Eric H. Metzler, an entomologist from the Wedge Entomological Foundation, decided to ask Western National Parks Association—who funded some of his research—to start an online auction and take the proceeds. “It’s getting harder and harder to get funding to do this research because it’s not seen as a priority in the way it used to be, even though it’s fundamental to our understanding of biodiversity,” says Paolo Viscardi, a curator at University College London’s Grant Museum. “Any mechanism where you can raise more funds to continue your work is taken—so I guess [auctioning of the naming rights] is another way to fund your research.”

60 comments

  1. He must be a Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    This is what they do.

    1. Re: He must be a Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      It is the way of their kind. All they care about is money. They certainly don't care about people, much less science.

    2. Re: He must be a Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Republicans do love eBay.

    3. Re: He must be a Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally not the same person. Of course not.

    4. Re:He must be a Republican by Wycliffe · · Score: 2

      This is what they do.

      This is modded as a -1 for flamebait but I have to ask. Why is this a bad idea? You want to continue your research and you thought of an ingenious way to bring in some much needed money. Kudos to you. The article says that the winning bidder gets to work with the scientist on naming so it sounds like he is retaining some amount of veto power. The only thing I might change is give him the option of not necessarily picking the highest bidder if the 2nd or 3rd highest bidder had a more reasonable name.

    5. Re:He must be a Republican by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      I'm a Republican, and if I needed research funds for my obscure moth project, that's exactly what I would do.

      Naming rights build football stadiums, so why shouldn't they fund scientific research? If we auctioned off naming rights to those features on Pluto and Charon that New Horizons just imaged, imagine how much money we could raiseP

    6. Re: He must be a Republican by silentcoder · · Score: 2

      Dude... that scene in fight club about planet McDonalds was supposed to be horrifying not inspirational.

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    7. Re:He must be a Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For people who aren't Republicans, the giving the wealthy more power usually does not end well. You can let them name all your stadiums and streets, and you probably give up a little of your local culture. If you let them name all your animals, you might lose a little something in science as well. My guess is that it will be harder to take science seriously just that little bit more once this is through.

    8. Re:He must be a Republican by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It is labeled as flaimbait because of the subject line, attributing this behavior to Republicans.

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    9. Re:He must be a Republican by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Actually, naming rights go to the team, not to the city that built the stadium. It is free money to the sports team. Sad but true.

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  2. Colbertopholis! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  3. Better than I'd hoped by Zibodiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I clicked this article, expecting to shake my head in disgust. Instead, that actually sounds like a pretty good idea for funding research. Bravo to Metzler for putting his pride second to his research.

    1. Re:Better than I'd hoped by alzoron · · Score: 1

      It says (or at least very strongly implies) the money isn't for him and is to further research right there in the summary...

    2. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why in heaven's name would this inspire disgust. Personally I'd applaud the man's entrepreneurship

    3. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Science and greed don't usually go hand in hand. Not at the purest level at least. The ideal scientist is dirt poor but someone else pays for his expenses because he is just that good at what he does.

      Apart from that, I really hope whoever buys the naming rights names the moth in honor of the finder. Just because they can.

    4. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In most cases when new species these days the species was already discovered and named by someone else. The information was then published and forgotten about.
      Want to bet anything that this is another one of these rediscoveries?

    5. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would "selling the rights to" something intangible not inspire disgust? Not necessarily at the man, but at a society which even entertains the notion - worse, a rich, advanced society that creates such bad conditions for scientists that they even have to consider this to secure funding.

      Glad he's found some way to get by, but disgusted that he had to look for it by means other than "do good science".

    6. Re:Better than I'd hoped by gnupun · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why in heaven's name would this inspire disgust.

      You don't want some idiot's surname on a species just because he had money considering we'll be stuck with that name for centuries.

      If he had sold the name rights for a "limited time" (and slashdotters do love that particular phrase) of say life+100 years, no one would mind. But naming rights for perpetuity is a really bad idea because the public will be stuck using a stupid name that had nothing to do with the characteristics of the insect but rather the greed of the scientist discovering it.

      Imagine every newly discovered animal, insect and tree named after a wealthy individual or corp... that's truly disgusting. I would rather the govt reward the scientist for his discovery or at least fund his research somehow.

    7. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Translation+Error · · Score: 2

      You don't want some idiot's surname on a species just because he had money considering we'll be stuck with that name for centuries.

      Why not? How is having it named after someone willing to fund further research worse than having it named after someone who happened to officially discover it? Also note that according to the auction, 'Mr. Metzler will work directly with the winning bidder to choose an official name which must be Latinized,' so it doesn't sound like the winner will have carte blanche (and I imagine the Commission of Zoological Nomenclature can veto truly terrible names, too).

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    8. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Wycliffe · · Score: 0

      Imagine every newly discovered animal, insect and tree named after a wealthy individual or corp... that's truly disgusting. I would rather the govt reward the scientist for his discovery or at least fund his research somehow.

      Then by all means, get the government or a group of your friends and bid on it. I think it's an ingenious idea. I'm very curious who will win and whether they will pick a reasonable name. A better system than highest bidder might be highest bidder with veto right so that the scientist can pick the 2nd or 3rd highest bidder if they had a more reasonable name.

    9. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "You don't want some idiot's surname on a species just because he had money considering we'll be stuck with that name for centuries."

      But after centuries, or even a decade or so, who will remember the ephemeral people who bought those names? If they want to pay a lot for a shot at ersatz immortality, then so be it.

      We might also try for species-appropriate naming. Imagine a scorpion called Centruroides trumpii or a primate, Hylobates fiftycentus

    10. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Crowd+Computing · · Score: 1

      Maybe the insects will object, but I don't mind naming moths after idiots. Besides I'm pretty sure there are common codes of decency that will prevent the use of really disgusting names with, say, embedded insults or four letter words.

    11. Re:Better than I'd hoped by mobby_6kl · · Score: 2

      Speaking of terrible names, let's set up a kickstarter to buy out the naming rights and name it Goatsemus Maximus or something.

    12. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      If you feel so strongly in the support of this science, maybe you should give money to your local research college instead of complaining that nobody is funding this research.

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    13. Re:Better than I'd hoped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The new PepsiMax(c) Moth.

    14. Re:Better than I'd hoped by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      You don't want some idiot's surname on a species just because he had money considering we'll be stuck with that name for centuries.

      If he had sold the name rights for a "limited time" (and slashdotters do love that particular phrase) of say life+100 years, no one would mind. But naming rights for perpetuity is a really bad idea because the public will be stuck using a stupid name that had nothing to do with the characteristics of the insect but rather the greed of the scientist discovering it.

      Imagine every newly discovered animal, insect and tree named after a wealthy individual or corp... that's truly disgusting. I would rather the govt reward the scientist for his discovery or at least fund his research somehow.

      Uh... you do realize that's how it's done now, right?

      I mean, you have insects named after Stephen Colbert, George Bush, Pope John Paul II, Barack Obama, etc.

      In fact, Wikipedia has such a list handy!. There's a website tracking this as well.

      It's already done right now. Sometimes it's for celebrity status. other times, it's done as an insult to the person.

      And sometimes, it's named after the scientist's offspring.

  4. This is what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when you take our research for granted and don't provide us sufficient funding after we had to work our asses off just for a chance to be real scientists, don't expect us to not look for alternate methods of funding.

    1. Re: This is what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Who cares about your "research"? If anybody did, you wouldn't have problems being funded. You should take a good, hard look at your "research" and you'll probably find out nobody cares, nothing will ever come out of it, it has no practical applications whatsoever. In short, it's shit and you shouldn't be surprised you ain't getting any money for it. I don't care if you have to find "alternative means of funding". Society does not care. You can sell yourself into prostitution for all we care, shit genius.

    2. Re: This is what happens by Maritz · · Score: 1

      I think you're confusing his research with you. I care about his research, as I do anything that increases the scope of human knowledge. I don't care about you, or your stupid, ignorant, fucking dumb opinions. His research is cool. You're a prick. Pretty simple really.

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    3. Re: This is what happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My beer is cool. You, on the other hand, are good for a barrel o'laughs. Lol. Hey, shit genius, how is your funding coming together? I make more money in a week than you'll ever see in a decade. Har har. Who's the smart guy now?

    4. Re: This is what happens by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      If you care so much about this guy's research, feel free to throw money at it. Demanding that everyone pay for the research, when you apparently are unwilling to support it is kind of silly.

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  5. The flame of money burns bright by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 2

    And we all know how moths feel about that.

  6. Golden Palace Casino Must Buy The Naming Rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This sounds like the perfect bid for GoldenPalace.com, which has a history of bidding on odd or unusual items as part of their marketing strategy. In fact, they have bid in the past on the scientific naming privileges for a new species of primate discovered in the Amazon basin among other strange items including a partially eaten grilled cheese sandwich with the likeness of a religious figure and a haunted cane to name just a couple. So, if anyone from Golden Palace is still listening, do this scientist a good turn and buy this so that he can continue his research. Thanks.

  7. Capitalism and conspicuous consumption for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Money goes where the market is, and the market with the highest margins is the one for vanity. Incomprehensible junk like 'science' is only useful when it produces weaponry or shiny trinkets.

  8. I'd name it after a Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Since their larva spend most of their lives as parasites.

  9. Fundamental my ass by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

    I may be IT by profession but I'm an entomologist by degree. Discovering a new species of moth is fringe, not fundamental. Calling it so is no more than an attempt to "raise more funds". While it is interesting to find new species, they are now very low population (especially in the US) and have a very minor influence on the ecology.

    1. Re:Fundamental my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I may be IT by profession but I'm an entomologist by degree."

      No one cares.. but that's something you've heard your entire life.

  10. Only one possible Name. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    MOTHERA!

    1. Re:Only one possible Name. by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Aww, so close.

      Alternate comment: Dr Freud will see you now.

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  11. ebay moth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And it shall henceforth be known as the ebay moth, whatever he decides to call it.

    1. Re:ebay moth by Maritz · · Score: 1

      That won't be a smart name when it's merely the first of fifty 'ebay moths'.

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  12. Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see no way this could possibly go wrong. (Brought to you by Carl's Junior.)

  13. I'd pay $100... by Aardpig · · Score: 0

    to secure "HitlerDidNothingWrong".

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  14. And the winner is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Mothodildo saurusrex," from some rich kid who saw the news articles and won the auction! Congrats! ...That's what I predict!

  15. Latin name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Givira hitlerdidnothingwrongi

  16. We can win this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Join my gofundme and we can ensure it's named DICKBUTT!

    And then we start the breeding program to distribute these moths across the entire country!

  17. GZXsiuJkhKJHkuyIUHkjiuiu273IUHiuy98Gjw7&7%^gjh by robi5 · · Score: 2

    ...kjhwekfhciu876*&^8gjHGJt&T*&hjhVJHjhgj^*&*fjhjhbkjhpjvhgd

    Doubles as a password.

  18. Exploit of an entomologist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bid for: moth'); DROP TABLE Insects; --

  19. unique? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dave Gorman did an episode where using a pre existing naming site he named one for Benedict CumberthatchedroofYeOldeInne

  20. Right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Supreme Court has ruled that that "right" doesn't apply to the 3nd Amendment.

    1. Re:Right? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Quartering soldiers in peace time? I don't know if you really need concern yourself with that one anymore.

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  21. Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Joe." Here's fifty bucks...

  22. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Nopea Nopeiensis?

  23. Brace for the crowdfunded internet win! by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

    Set different names for different brackets. The higher up the cash goes, the more offensive the name gets.

  24. Re:GZXsiuJkhKJHkuyIUHkjiuiu273IUHiuy98Gjw7&7%^ by imac.usr · · Score: 1

    Well not any more it doesn't.

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  25. Turn on the porch lights at night; by buck-yar · · Score: 1

    There's no way science knows about all the different moths that arrive. There will be maybe 10,000 moths and none of them look the same.

  26. There's an app for that by kreyszig · · Score: 1

    Well - a website: http://biopat.de/

    1. Re:There's an app for that by kreyszig · · Score: 1

      more specfically: http://biopat.de/artenkatalog-...

  27. I didn't think you could sell rights by mark-t · · Score: 1

    I would imagine that he retains the rights, but rather is selling a promise to name it whatever the winning bidder wants.

    So, however much this guy's word is worth, which may be negative, plus whatever it is worth to somebody to get to choose what to name something is actually how much one should bid.

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  28. 4chan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't wait until 4chan raises enough money to win and name it JETFUELCANTMELTSTEELBEAMS