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Walmart Plays Catch-Up With Amazon
HughPickens.com writes: According to James B. Stewart in the NY Times, for the past 16 years Walmart has often acted as though it hoped Amazon would just go away. When Walmart announced last week that it was significantly increasing its investment in e-commerce, it tacitly acknowledged that it had fallen far behind Amazon in the race for online customers. Now, the magnitude of the task it faces has grown exponentially as e-commerce growth continues to surge globally. "Walmart.com has been severely mismanaged," says Burt P. Flickinger III. "Walmart would go a few years and invest strategically and significantly in e-commerce, then other years it wouldn't.Meanwhile, Amazon is making moves in e-commerce that's put Walmart so far behind that it might not be able to catch up for 10 more years, if ever."
In 1999, Amazon was a fledgling company with annual revenue of $1.6 billion; Walmart's was about $138 billion. By last year, Amazon's revenue was about 54 times what it was in 1999, nearly $89 billion, almost all of it from online sales. Walmart's was about three times what it was 15 years before, almost $486 billion, and only a small fraction of that — 2.5 percent, or $12.2 billion — came from Walmart.com. Walmart's superefficient distribution system — a function of its enormous volume and geographic reach — was long the secret to Walmart's immense profitability. Ravi Jariwala, a Walmart spokesman, says that Walmart is building vast new fulfillment centers and is rapidly enhancing its delivery capabilities to take advantage of its extensive store network to provide convenient in-store pickup and adds that 70 percent of the American population lives within five miles of a Walmart store. "This is where e-commerce is headed," says Jariwala, which is to a hybrid online/in-store model. "Customers want the accessibility and immediacy of a physical store," along with the benefits of online shopping.
In 1999, Amazon was a fledgling company with annual revenue of $1.6 billion; Walmart's was about $138 billion. By last year, Amazon's revenue was about 54 times what it was in 1999, nearly $89 billion, almost all of it from online sales. Walmart's was about three times what it was 15 years before, almost $486 billion, and only a small fraction of that — 2.5 percent, or $12.2 billion — came from Walmart.com. Walmart's superefficient distribution system — a function of its enormous volume and geographic reach — was long the secret to Walmart's immense profitability. Ravi Jariwala, a Walmart spokesman, says that Walmart is building vast new fulfillment centers and is rapidly enhancing its delivery capabilities to take advantage of its extensive store network to provide convenient in-store pickup and adds that 70 percent of the American population lives within five miles of a Walmart store. "This is where e-commerce is headed," says Jariwala, which is to a hybrid online/in-store model. "Customers want the accessibility and immediacy of a physical store," along with the benefits of online shopping.
As the summary suggests, Walmart does have an advantage in its distribution network and storefront locations. At a greatly-reduced cost, Walmart could very quickly compete with Amazon for Same-Day delivery service if that proves to be lucrative.
Additionally, in the not-so-distant future, when autonomous vehicles become the norm, consumers could order online and send their own car to the Walmart distribution center to be loaded up with the groceries, etc. to reduce the cost of deliver.
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Walmart believes "Customers want the accessibility and immediacy of a physical store." That is why their online business is doomed to fail. Yes, sometimes you just want it right now, but then you'll drive to Walmart or whatever local store will have it and buy it. But often you want the real online experience with unlimited selections and no hassle with trips. Why would I buy something online and then drive to pick it up?
Yes, Walmart has a huge and efficient distribution system, but can they really leverage that for online sales? When stocking stores, they ship large quantities to each store. For online sales, it's small quantities of a much larger variety. You have to support the customer who is the only one in the area buying that item just as well as you do the customer who buys the most popular item. I doubt their distribution system can adapt to that model.
Walmart can try, but in order to beat Amazon at this point, they don't just have to match them, they have to be better. I don't think they even understand what better looks like, let alone have any way of getting there.
Walmart can pay it's workers less then Amazon and pass part of the saving after the ceo's cut.
Not only that but usually you could select same day pick up at the store your in, wait around until you got the 'ready' email, walk to the back of the store and pick up the one you were looking at.
I did this for a carpet cleaner walmart had, 100$ less online, but they refused to sell it to me at their online price. I had to order it from my phone, select the store I was at, then wander around for 45min until I got the 'order ready' email, then walk to the back of the store and pick up the same unit I had just been looking at.
Ill never understand why B&M stores always treat their online segment as a whole other business rather than integrate properly
They keep forgetting ONE BIG reason people order from Amazon.com.
You don't have to pay Sales Tax on the items.
Yes, I know you are supposed to pay use taxes in most states, but seriously, who does that?
In my area, local plus state sales tax is in the upper 9.x% range....when I buy a large ticket item online, I save a substantial amount of $$. I'd have to pay that sales tax if I bought the same item on Walmart.com or picked it up in the store.
I know that someday this will come to an end, but in the meantime, I'd have to guess a LARGE number of people order from Amazon and others to avoid high sales tax in states that charge it....
Amazon collects sales tax in most states now:
Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the following states are subject to tax:
Arizona Indiana Minnesota Ohio West Virginia
California Kansas Nevada Pennsylvania Wisconsin
Connecticut Kentucky New Jersey Tennessee
Florida Maryland New York Texas
Georgia Massachusetts North Carolina Virginia
Illinois Michigan North Dakota Washington
My use of Amazon didn't go down after they started collecting sales tax -- I use Amazon for the convenience. It's still possible to avoid the sales tax collection by buying from an out of state Amazon Marketplace seller, but I've had so many bad experiences with them (obviously used products sold as new, broken product (in a box that someone wrote "Bad" on, product with missing pieces, etc) that unless at product is fulfilled by Amazon I rarely buy from a marketplace seller.
It's got to be hard to catch up to somebody who is so far behind you. You'd have to sell all the way to infinity, go back to negative infinity and then catch up to the $12 billion in sales that Amazon does.
There is a lot of "me, me, me, now, now, now" in American culture. Wal-mart will always have a place as long as people can't stand to wait two days over instant gratification.
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The Walmart app tells you not only which store has it in stock, but which aisle it's on.
Btw they dropped the hyphen from their name about 15 years ago.
Amazon hasn't ever made a significant profit. What point am I trying to make? I have no idea but it's an important one!
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Walmart was built on quality, name brand merchandise at low prices. At some point the MBAs took over and decided it was better to direct source merchandise from offshore manufacturers and slap their own label on it; they also beat down the name brand suppliers to shrink packages and cut corners to lower the price. They are now seeing what happens when you chase short term profits and drive off long term customers.
You have to be biased against walmart to feel that way. It's just like any other supermarket. Maybe whole foods makes you feel better because they give you the impression that what you're eating there is healthier (spoiler: It's not. I've worked for a major food distributor and we sold them the same stuff we sold walmart when they ordered the same category of items.) The only difference is whole foods refuses to carry certain foods citing health concerns (though there's no actual scientific basis behind their ban list) and they charge you about four times as much. But if paying four times as much makes people feel better, then to each his own I say.
Anyways, two major reasons I don't buy from walmart most of the time:
- Amazon usually has better prices and the selection is much bigger.
- Walmart rather annoyingly doesn't honor their own website's prices in store. If you want their online price, you have to buy it online and then wait a few hours to pick it up in store.
That said, I could see myself springing for Walmart instead of Amazon if they did something like this:
- Greatly expand product selection
- Day after or second day after delivery of your item to the local store
- No "prime" style subscription required (I only use mine for the free shipping and nothing else, I have never really liked prime video or any of the other services.)
I'm not sure having to pick up your delivery in person at a Walmart is quite the benefit Walmart thinks it is. The old joke about Target being the store for people who are willing to pay more to avoid being around Walmart customers exists for a reason.
I have been paying sales tax on Amazon for years and years. Further it wasnt Amazon dodging taxes our lawmakers SPECIFICALLY exempted internet commerce so that it could grow.
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One things that is interesting is that the buying and marketplaces are different between Amazon and Walmart. Just about anyone can sell on Amazon. Prime sellers obviously have some more hoops to jump through. Walmart has to have their buyers pick products, negotiate prices hard, etc. They have more work to do (I think) to sell you something. That has made some sellers move their products to Amazon. The other thing is that sellers don't have to run a whole eCommerce site anymore. Amazon makes it super easy to sell and for buyers to buy.
Anecdotally, I have a family of six. We have a "Super" Walmart which is the only major store in my town of 6,000 people the surrounding towns. They have groceries, the normal stuff they carry, an auto repair shop, a doctor, optometrist, two fast food places, and some other things and are open 24/7. We used to shop there all the time. If I wanted to go to Target or Best Buy or whatever I'd have to drive about 20 to 30 minutes or do it during my lunch hour (which is super inconvenient).
Now we shop almost exclusively at Amazon and we buy our groceries from Peapod. Selection and convenience are the biggest thing for me. I've moved to 90 percent or more of my purchases to Amazon (we have a family of six). Walmart either doesn't have what I need (they tend to carry lower end things here anyway) or I just don't feel like going there. Waiting two days for Amazon is fine.
BTW, Peapod is freaking awesome too because everything is just there. It saves your last order and you can just reorder, adjust quantifies or whatever, it's usually about the same price as Walmart's grocery store. Produce is great and they even deliver those 40 lb. water softener salt bags that Walmart has all the way in the back of the store even though everyone here needs them.
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Perfect is the enemy of good.
Walmart has to follow the same health guidelines that every other grocery store has to follow. If Walmart is doing it differently, then it's only a matter of time before everyone else is doing it the same.
No they don't, they really really don't. This following of guidelines has to be done by associates. They can and do gut their labor supply until they're staffed entirely by the most hopeless dead-end cases, and then pressure those people until they're scrambling to keep up, much like Amazon does in fact.
You can't DO produce like that. It bruises, damages and spoils and you get in situations where because everything's a wreck the customers feel no obligation to be decent w.r.t the other customers and it all becomes a complete shitshow.
Health guidelines go out the window. The other part of your statement is sadly (somewhat) true: yes, Walmart puts market pressure on everybody else to be just as much of a shitshow. Either everybody declines to match, or turns to weird things like Aldi where you're sort of picking your way around palettes of cardboard boxes full of counterfeit products that are hopefully shelf-stable for years. Very American, for all that it's a German import.
It only goes so far before people start bucking the trend by finding favorite stores that haven't declined so much, and playing favorites even in the teeth of Walmart price cuts. I realize it's heresy, but price isn't everything.
I realize it's heresy, but price isn't everything.
Agreed, we have stopped shopping at Walmart for the same reason.
Low price isn't enough, they have to run a proper store and treat the employees right at the same time.
Actually walmart's safety standards are a notch above the typical health food store in that they won't carry organic alfalfa sprouts due to the high incidence of e.coli contamination. Meanwhile places like whole foods carry them anyways; in fact whole foods prominently offers a full page of suggestions on what to make with them.
And indeed, it is walmart who is correct here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
And at the same time, whole foods maintains a "ban list" of ingredients not allowed to be sold in their stores, only these ingredients are not proven to be harmful. For example, they ban glutamates. The reason for that is because some people claim to be allergic to them, but no allergy claim has ever been empirically proven. However whole foods happily carries foods that are known to be such strong allergens that even a trace amount can outright kill some people; specifically, peanuts.
Why? Because whole foods is snake oil, just like their homeopathic medicine aisle.
That said, I don't get why there's all of this love for a company that actively rips you off (whole foods) and all kinds of animosity towards one that is only guilty of making things too affordable for the poor (walmart.)
The reason they can make things affordable to poor people is because they're creating poor people.
Walmart creates poor people how? Let me guess, because they sell things at a low price? Or because they pay their employees minimum wage?
Guess what? Everybody retailer does that, and has done that since before walmart even existed. Not only that, but wealth isn't defined by income or money. Wealth is defined by the material goods you own. When material goods become cheaper, then more people can have them, thus society as a whole gets wealthier.
Don't believe me? Well take a look at a few things you take for granted today: In the early days of refrigeration, only wealthy people had them. Now everybody does. In the early days of automobiles, only wealthy people had them, and they were crap compared to what poor people can buy today. Same can be said of big screen TVs, car phones (in fact, what we have no is infinitely better than a car phone), personal computers, microwave ovens, etc.
These are the things that make up wealth, and every single thing I mentioned today is affordable by the poor, (and indeed, it's common for the poor to own all of the above) which is thanks to companies like walmart whose goal is to make them more affordable.
Oh but let me guess, you're defining poor by how much their income is, right? Of course you are, because you said poverty, which is a government defined term based entirely on income and ignores wealth. Guess what though? That goalpost has been moving up and up for a long time, and you could live in a mansion and own a nice sports car and have a massive savings but make zero per year, and the government labels you as living in poverty, which qualifies you for medicaid in spite of your assets.
Also I'll have to say, if you think that just because there's health and safety standards in place that everyone follows them equally go spend one day on any manufacturing floor for any company.
I don't need to, I've spent a long time in one.
All these standards and regulations basically entail is "once a year or so we'll come by your workplace and ask the quality people if they're following procedures." ISO 9001 is the biggest joke I've ever seen. It's about as hard as an open book test that you have 2 months to prepare for.
Uh, no, it's more often than that. I did routine IT work at a meat plant for example and they wouldn't so much as let me walk through the warehouse without a hair and beard net (and of course, carrying any kind of food and water through it was also absolutely forbidden.) Every single day they sprayed all of the walls with highly pressurized soapy water, which was the challenge because we had networking gear and computers on said walls.
Why did they go through such extremes? Because every few months there would be a surprise USDA inspection.