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Landfall Nears For Strongest Hurricane In Recorded History (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Patricia — the strongest hurricane ever recorded — barreled closer and closer Friday to Mexico's Pacific coast, where residents have been told to brace for its 200-mph sustained winds and torrential rains. The early Friday central pressure recording of 880 millibars (the barometric pressure equivalent is 25.98 inches) "is the lowest for any tropical cyclone globally for over 30 years," according to the Met Office, Britain's weather service. One other thing alarming about Patricia is its rapid rise in intensity. It rated as a tropical storm early Thursday, but 24 hours later it had become a Category 5 hurricane. Among other effects, El Niño has contributed to ocean waters off Mexico being 2 to 3 degrees warmer than usual. "That warm water from El Niño probably just pushed this slightly over the edge to be the strongest storm on record," CNN's Myers said.
Depends which side of the pissing contest you are on.
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Mexico is basically a third world country. The homes on the coast will blow over almost immediately.
Perhaps Cat 5 isn't enough anymore. Cat 6 has more twisters than Cat 5.
Ahahahaha
Science knows this would happen. Ever since we started unlocking the secrets of chaotic systems this has been well understood. Climate’s the biggest chaotic system there is.
There is nothing weird about this at all. This is the new direction. Not the new normal because that implies they’re all going to be like this from now on. The reality’s worse.
The new normal is for each new weather disaster to be ‘unprecedented and weird’ and it’s been happening for years already and not slowing down but speeding up.
Alarmist? Fuck yes. Alarms are necessary and this is what they’re for. We are soon going to need to concentrate on clinging to life on this fucking planet, never mind ‘fighting climate change’. Climate’s WAAAAAY bigger than us. We’re pretty smart humans and we’ll succeed in adapting, but it’s gonna look like colonizing Venus and Mars put together, and one hell of a lot of innocent people will die in vast numbers trying to survive this.
Maybe we can string up some Koches at some point to make ourselves feel better, because this was DONE by the decisions of stupid people, much like an avalanche can be kicked off by a person pushing over a snowbank.
Failing that, somebody film this. Media might not want to undermine vested interests, but media can’t help but drool over footage of outrageous unthinkable destruction. Use that. Which is to say: please, dronebros, go and get your wealthy asses famous. It will be awesome footage, guaranteed ;P
From the article
"Patricia the third strongest tropical cyclone in history (by wind)
Super Typhoon Nancy (1961), 215 mph winds, 882 mb. Made landfall as a Cat 2 in Japan, killing 191 people.
Super Typhoon Violet (1961), 205 mph winds, 886 mb pressure. Made landfall in Japan as a tropical storm, killing 2 people.
Super Typhoon Ida (1958), 200 mph winds, 877 mb pressure. Made landfall as a Cat 1 in Japan, killing 1269 people.
Super Typhoon Haiyan (2013), 195 mph winds, 895 mb pressure. Made landfall in the Philippines at peak strength.
Super Typhoon Kit (1966), 195 mph winds, 880 mb. Did not make landfall.
Super Typhoon Sally (1964), 195 mph winds, 895 mb. Made landfall as a Cat 4 in the Philippines.
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Its a big one but not the strongest on record. From the look of it, they tend to happen every few years so not even a weather anomaly.
It sounds more like a 250 mile wide tornado than a hurricane. I hope the people there are going to take that thing seriously. We should already be lining up an international response to the devastation it's going to cause.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
We've only been watching storms that are offshore for a few decades. There's no reason to believe this one is unlike other storms that have been forming out in the Pacific since the last Ice Age.
It clearly said "strongest hurricane", which is true. Typhoons are on the other side of the Pacific ocean. Hurricanes are only in the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific.
"They happen every few years". 50 years is not what I would call "few". If so, I would only be a "few" years old.
-SS "Teach the ignorant, care for the dumb, and punish the stupid."
From the article
"However, it is now recognized (Black 1992) that the maximum sustained winds estimated for typhoons during the 1940s to 1960s were too strong. The strongest reliably measured tropical cyclones were both 10 mph weaker than Patricia...".
It was caused by all the hot air exiting the Benghazi investigation yesterday, Hillary was on the stand for 11 hours after all.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Obama is touting this model of "green energy" that pollutes the environment just as much: http://poorrichardsnews.com/obama-administrations-model-green-energy-solar-plant-exceeds-pollution-regulations-of-traditional-power-plants-by-nearly-double/"
Fucking barbarians.
It was nice of the Republicans to help her campaign by beclowning themselves. Sanders is probably pretty annoyed that they wouldn't put on a clown-show to boost his numbers too.
The whole Republican party is the Dunning-Kruger effect on a massive scale, idiots patting each other on the back for being what right-wing lunatics think is "smart".
It wasn't always this way, but decades of pandering to racists and religious fanatics for short-tern gain was always going to destroy the party from the inside. Anyone who's both smart and well-meaning has no place in the today's Republican party.
Are you smoking sherm again?
Keep telling yourself that, I am sure Hillary will win...
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
In another century this guy would have been burning witches. Now he prays to the false God of Pseudoscience, bowing down at the altar of the Cult of Global Warming.
Let's cut all the crap about global warming/climate change and remember that there are people living where this storm is making landfall. It doesn't matter if this is the strongest storm ever or if climate change caused this, there are real people in harm's way. This is not going to be pretty, between storm surge and rainfall over mountainous terrain and the flooding that will bring. So please keep these people in mind.
Do whatever you think best to help. whether that be prayer or cutting out a Starbuck's run to donate to the Red Cross. What are we put on this Earth for if not to help one another?
How come Slashdot never gets Slashdotted?
The Earth is BILLIONS of years old.
Humans have been making and recording global weather data for about 50 years (the first actual weather satellite, TIROS-1 was very crude and launched in 1960. Human records for global weather in the hundred years before that were from local weather guys in various spots around the globe and ship captains and floating buoys at sea plus the odd adventurer. Global weather before about two centuries ago was mostly in Europe or by a few captains of sailing ships at sea using mercury thermometers and barometers read often by candlelight on a pitching and rolling deck.
200 years (at best) of data out of only 1,000,000,000 years (a fraction of the Earth's existence) is a 1/5000000 sample (and even THAT is a gross over estimate of the significance of all of the weather "all-time records" we occasionally break. We are not hitting all-time temp highs (or lows) or seeing the biggest earthquake ever, or the biggest storm ever, or the strongest winds ever, or the biggest waves ever, etc - we are just occasionally seeing the most extreme things WE HUMANS have seen and recorded in the past 200 (approx) years out of billions of years of history. It takes a remarkable degree of dishonesty and/or willful ignorance to do what all the 24-hour news networks and the climate activists and big government advocates do with every such event and claim it is the most extreme EVER. These people willfully mislead the public by saying "worst on record" or "record breaking" while knowing the public will infer "worst ever" when it really just is an illustration of how poor our weather and climate records truly are.
Against Global Warming /s
When you search "Pineapple Express" in Wikipedia, you realize we are only a few years away from a repeat due on the 160 year cycle of mega storms hitting the West Coast.
Geologists studying the California valley sediments know these groups of storms over a month's time will dump around 10 feet of water on California in a month.
NOAA has been studying the size of the warm water buildup in the Eastern Pacific that feeds these storms for decades, so we know it is coming.
Patricia is likely only the first one.
About an hour ago another NOAA plane did readings while flying through the storm:
"the plane reported an extrapolated surface pressure of 902.6 millibars based on measurements from the aircraft. Peak flight-level winds were 166 mph during this pass."
So, um, the storm weakened by > 20% in an hour? So now it is just a regular Cat 5 which have hit this area regularly.
This thing has higher winds but is more like a tornado. It's hurricane winds are about 25 miles wide vs Katrina which was 125 miles. The flooding required a large wall of wind to really pile up the water. This is more like Charlie in 2004 which had really fast but narrow winds.
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.
I recall the crap gals named Katrina underwent during/after Hurricane Katrina, since my wife's name is Patricia, I sincerely hope she doesn't get any of the same, being that this is supposedly the most powerful recorded hurricane in history...
THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
Yeah... It might disrupt the drug, weapon, and human trafficking. That will mean lots of Mexican officials won't be getting a bonus check that week.
There's a difference, but don't facts and grammer get in the way, Clickbait-dot.
Evil storm attacks poor innocent undocumented brown peoples. Evil white people do nothing to prevents storm from attacking brown peoples because white peoples are all racist. In fact evil white people created and designed said storm to just attack brown people by creatively creating smog at just the right locations to change the climate of Mexico and destroy these poor innocent brown peoples. The only solution is for the evil white peoples to let the poor undocumented guest workers to move north to live in their houses, and eat their food and perform the jobs that are too good for white people. Meanwhile the evil white people can move to under the sea or under ground where they belong.
The future belongs to the strong. Today the USA is very very weak, and we are doing everything we can to strengthen our enemies.
As to your IPCC comment, what was the low confidence for? IIRC, it was about the NUMBER of hurricane landfalls increasing was a low confidence claim, but the incresing storm intensity (the subject of the person you "replied" to) was higher.
Please also note that because it was low confidence doesn't mean they say it can't happen, retard.
Please note your cowards retord "It isn't worth my time" has been noted as the empty retreat bleat of a cowardly shithead. Because you had plenty of time to write a post, but not to include any answers to the questions made, only yet more slurs and lies and fatuous claims against someone who doesn't buy your BS and won't let it sit uncountered.
Since the raw unadjusted trend is higher than the result after adjusting, your claim of "Always" is arrogant bullshit totally unconnected with anything outside your echo chamber of denialist talking points.
interesting but, /. how does this relate to News for Nerdz??? CNN really??? Not even the weather channel?
Is FOX news in there as well?
way to blunder fuck Overlords,, No wonder your up for sale again..
I don't think this will be the strongest hurricane in history. It might be the most intense hurricane measured in the post 1850 era..
The Great Hurricane of 1780 will likely be bigger, longer and perhaps more intense, but the surviving observations are crude measures. Recorded human experience is very, very limited on monstrosities observed, survived and recorded at all. In other periods, who knows, perhaps some lucky geologist for some "Cat 6" beach stuff will find the evidence.
the highest reliably-measured surface winds on record for a tropical cyclone, anywhere on the Earth. [but] the maximum sustained winds estimated for typhoons during the 1940s to 1960s were too strong.
So measurements aren't "reliable" before about 1970 - 45 years ago. Assuming you start in 1970 and take at least one "reliable" measurement of the strongest storm of the year, and there is no change trend to the storm strengths at all: ...
- In 1970 you have a 100% chance of a new record.
- In 1971 you have a 50% chance of a new record.
- In 1972 you have a 33.33...% chance of a new record.
- In 2015 you have a 2.17...% chance for a new record.
Pick enough weather events with similar "reliable" histories and you can find several that are setting new records every year. Attribute them to "global warming" (or demons, or space alien intervention, ...) and you can get several media events per year, too.
Similarly with daily high and low temperatures. Even accepting "unreliable" data, most locations have fewer years of measurements than days in the year, producing several new "all time record" high or low temperatures every year.
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This will, indeed, be a terrible storm and very bad for all those humans and animals in its path...
that does not, however, change the fact that lazy and/or dishonest people in the press (across the ENTIRE spectrum, from HuffPo and MSNBC to Fox News) will hype the story as "the worst EVER" or the "largest ever" or the "fastest winds ever recorded" or the "most rain ever recorded" etc for lots of reasons ranging from the unending quest for better ratings (cha-ching!!), to support for preferred political actions (most of them have preferred candidates, agendas, and public policy prescriptions). The dumb ones should be shunned no matter their perceived political leanings just fro being too dumb to be trusted, and the dishonest ones need to be shunned even more.
These talking heads know full-well the limits of the attention spans and educations of their audiences; they spend lots of time and money studying them to be more effective getting them to watch and therefore collecting higher ad revenue. It's not really asking that much to expect them to provide CONTEXT to their hyperbolic rhetoric and circus side-show-like headline shrieking. When they blast out the message "worst on record!!!!" they know full-well that most of the public has no realistic understanding of the record and therefore the context and therefore whether the info is even significant.
well, it's a price you pay for living there. If you can't afford to move, you're in deep shit. But that would also mean that you're poor, and therefore beneath the consideration of the politicians of most countries and the corporate interests that choose the political candidates to fund to power. So that's no problem, except for you yourself.
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