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SXSW Cancels Panels On Harassment Due To Harassment (sxsw.com)
New submitter rMortyH writes: Two panels on online harassment in gaming scheduled for the upcoming South by Southwest festival have been cancelled due to online harassment and threats. According to a statement from SXSW Director Hugh Forrest, "... in the seven days since announcing these two sessions, SXSW has received numerous threats of on-site violence related to this programming. ... If people can not agree, disagree and embrace new ways of thinking in a safe and secure place that is free of online and offline harassment, then this marketplace of ideas is inevitably compromised."
Was run by someone who passes around blacklists and tells people to set themselves on fire. Tells you everything you need to know about these "harassment" accusations.
http://www.ship2block20.com/hidden-face-hypocrisy-randi-harper/
Meanwhile Savepoint had a journalist and a game dev on board.
Sadly you don't even need to disagree. A statement of fact taken the wrong way counts as harassment.
I have no doubt that it is the people who insist on Safe Spaces, that are making the threats. Their ideas are old and week and don't stand up to any refutation.
Bullshit.
The feminists like Anita Sarkesian and Zoe Quinn always play the victim card but never back up what they say.
If Gamergate taught me anything, it was to start looking really critically at wikipedia, because I was surprised at how their article on GG has nothing to do with reality. Since I followed this from the beginning. Of course, they only cite as "truth" the very journals and journalists that were directly involved in the scandals to begin with.
And here is this feminist shit again. In another victim ruse. Basement dwelling losers don't give a shit about these too. Threats wouldn't be followed up on, not because they're losers, it's because I don't think the threats exist in the first place.
What I don't get is why SXSW didn't just provide them both some security, instead of this reaction. SXSW is a big organization and can afford it, and the amount of security needed is realistically probably not huge. This isn't like hosting a Mohammed Cartoons talk or American Nazi Party talk or something, where you might worry that you'd have a large number of possibly militant people show up to disrupt it.
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Psychopaths play PvP games all of the time, in fact they are the big spenders or the big cheaters, winning by skill means nothing to them, winning is all there is. Those are the players you have to deal with and while they typically are cowards, they can go off much like a explosive, if they are triggered by an excess of frustration. Would they hunt and stalk the female speakers, if those speakers we seen as victims by the psychopaths, most definitely. Those psychopaths come in all ages, types and levels of intelligence, there genetic faults being a lack of autonomic empathic response and a very shallow emotional range, all driving very poor social development.
So you can have a conference about cooperative games or board games or adventure games (not much point, not much harassment there) but you can not have one about PvP games because psychopaths are drawn to them and the publishers know it because they know psychopaths are the big spenders buying cheats because skill does not count only winning and making other people miserable counts and that is where all the problems are.
So what do you do about PvP (psychopath vs psychopath gaming), simply steer clear of them, there is nothing that can be done to fix them but they certainly should be monitored and player game styles and interactions analysed for possible further investigation.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
Thinking of just a recent example, some feminist (Laughing Witch) started and participated in a letter-writing campaign in order to get a particular anti-feminist (Thunderf00t) fired from his job. This letter contained several falsehoods and embellishments, and sought to leverage laws that could potentially lead to an unwarranted arrest. Pretty damn low.
In response to this, Thunderf00t found out where Laughing Witch worked and initiated a campaign to leave negative reviews of that business, since she was one of the company's officers. Answering the call with cult-like obedience, several of Thunderf00t's followers left fake, negative reviews of the business, and also tried writing letters of their own to get the woman fired. They reasoned that anyone else who happened to work for the business simply should have known better than to work alongside such a woman. Just as low.
Out of curiosity, I tried to point out how unethical the actions of both Laughing Witch and Thunderf00t were. Talk about bonkers. On the SJW side, Laughing Witch was of course justified, and any criticism of her tactic was somehow victim blaming. On the MRA side, any employees who would be harmed were just acceptable collateral damage in a round of karmic justice. On both sides, reasoned argument was something no longer considered of any use; instead, silencing the opponent (somewhat viciously) was considered the only option.
Both sides of this thing now view the debate as a war, and both sides are resorting to ever more despicable tactics.
"Is not a sentence" is not a sentence. Well damn.
What kind of proof would satisfy you? Why aren't you satisfied with the numerous screencaps, videos, actual threats given, etc. etc. especially in light of the r9k murders?
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Curiously when Christina Hoff Sommers get threat from SJW, to the point where she need police protection, it doesn't make it to /. ...
(with sword in hand) "You may not draw me!"
(with pen in hand) "That's why I do."
Skills is irrelevant, only the victory is. Even in real life. Those who succeed are more often than not those who perverted the system to fit their gain...
The review does not exist. If it does, I'm sure you can post a link to the review or a reputable archive such as the wayback machine. Two things to note, in order to pre-empt a bunch of non-review links I've been given before:
a) two words is not a review.
b) A mere mention along the lines of "Zoe Quinn (who you may remember from such games as Depression Quest) is doing something else which I'm now talking about" is also not a review of the game.
Now as I'm sure you're an honest, upstanding chap, I'm sure you will have no trouble providing me the evidence for what has essentially been the rallying cry.
I also fully expected to get modded down for this because it seems nothing is quite so trollish as actually demanding hard evidence. I've got Karma to burn so bring it.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
People have not been swatted on both sides. Threats have not been made on both sides. Only the Gamergate kids are using terrorist tactics.
Also, please, feel free to provide any evidence of any game review being sold for sex. Seriously. Even one.
You still can't deny the fact that the r9k murders happened. If you head over to that board right now, you can see it is full of anti-feminists who blame people like Sarkeesian and Harper for making women hate men and preventing them from getting laid. That's their actual argument - feminism has turned women against men, and so they are forced to be involuntarily celibate. Those guys feed off each others angst and depression and eventually some of them start shooting people who they blame for their predicament.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
people are sick of the politically correct narrative and it is their way of rebelling
If I hear one more SJW complain about white heterosexual male privilege, I think I'm going to scream "FUCK YOU!!" right in their face.
Yeah, we have the privilege of having to go to work every day and work out asses off. We have to do that because we have to deal with the pressure to be the breadwinners. And, yes, people will hire us over people who they think WON'T work their asses off. And we don't (and can't) complain about having to work hard, because that's what expected of us. And that lack of complaining about it is another reason that companies want to hire us over the women and minorities who are going to run to HR, the EEOC, and a lawyer every time someone so much as tells a dirty joke in front of them (or complains about them not showing up to meetings on time).
We also get pulled over by cops too. Believe it or not, you don't get to just break the law because you're a white heterosexual male. You can't just act any way you want, pull out your white privilege card and have cops look the other way, you know. The reason we get pulled over less is because cops know that we're not the ones out there committing most of the crime. If one-third of all white males had spent time in prison during his lifetime (the actual statistic for black males, no joke), you can bet your ass the cops would be pulling us over more too. The only privilege we get there is one we had to EARN, by being mostly law-abiding citizens.
We also have the privilege of no one giving a shit about OUR problems. We have the privilege of having to pay for every date, having to financially support our family, etc. We don't get to sit at home watching soap operas all day, pretending that parenting is some huge "full-time job" ("Yeah honey, you had the terrible burden of having to make sandwiches for the kids' lunch, while I just had to WORK IN FUCKING COAL MINE FOR A 12 HOUR SHIFT"). We don't have any politicians or SJW journalists asking why there aren't more men in nursing and education, or why men make up the overwhelming percentage of the worst, most dangerous, and hardest professions in the country. No SJW's are out there complaining that it's men who suffer 93% of all workplace fatalities. No, we get to suffer almost all the workplace deaths and fatalities because we're so PRIVILEGED!
No, it's only women and minorities who have to suffer in this country. We white heterosexual males just get to kick back all day, show our white privilege card, and do whatever the fuck we want, while the rest of you poor souls are all being OPPRESSED.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
There's also Milo Yiannopolous, who calls gamers "overgrown manchildren" and "terminally beta".
Yet he's been quite the thorn in the 'social justice' crowd. If anyone's terminally "beta", it's the social justice warriors that rely on pandering to diversity as well as media gatekeeping to exist. Without both of those, the social justice crowd would be sitting next to Jack Thompson.
It was still two words, as the GP pointed out, in an article providing favorable coverage to 49 other games. But at least you admit it wasn't a review.
Still doesn't excuse Chelsea van Valkerberg's harassment of her ex (and in turn, anyone that dared question her) through the unquestioning media and the courts. Oh, and she still lost her court case despite the money.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.