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UK Plans To Allow Warrantless Searches of Internet History (telegraph.co.uk)
whoever57 writes: The UK government plans to require ISPs and telcoms companies to maintain browsing and email history of UK residents for a period of 12 months and make the data available to police on request without a warrant. "The new powers would allow the police to seize details of the website and searches being made by people they wanted to investigate." Exactly how they expect the ISPs to provide search histories now that most Google searches use SSL isn't explained (and probably not even considered by those proposing the legislation). Similarly with Gmail and other email providers using SMTP TLS and IMAPS, much email is opaque to ISPs. Will this drive more use of VPNs and TOR?
This comes alongside news that UK police used powers granted to them by anti-terrorism laws to seize a journalist's laptop.
about how the US is treating its citizens with privacy.. But you people are writing the book on the matter.
UK and Australia seem to be two of the worst countries in the world,
followed closely by the USA and Canada.
What kind of world are we building?
A pox on web designers who feel that window.innerWidth == screen.availWidth
How do they plan to investigate just you by accessing the data from your Internet connection?
That may include data of other people. And means they will be spying on innocent people who are above suspicion. Which can never be legal.
Don't worry, they won't care about your pr0n searches...well, maybe they'll just store them all up for 'later use' should you become a problem in the future.
As Cameron said "For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone"
Fuck them all. You heard it here first.
Your government is out of your control, you need to revolt against it.
It's like the government and police hate the spy agencies... Much of this sort of thing (or even rumors) and the whole net goes dark.
No - I don't mind spooks reading my mail... The local council, my ex, the tax collector, etc. however - and all of a sudden encryption and vpns get very interesting!
I'm fielding questions about vpns and whatsapp type messaging from all all sorts of people now; From people that had I mentioned any of this a couple years ago would roll their eyes and call me a nut.
What you have to remember here is that Her Majesty's Gov't especially Theresa May and David (Knob in a Pig) Cameron can't even spell "internet" let alone being able to draft any coherent legislation to control the Internet.
This is more from the UK Gov't's Department of Sound Bites for the Newspapers Agency. It will never happen because they don't understand the scale of the problem or the massive bucket of data they'd need the ISP to hold and we all know that GCHQ are doing this stuff already. They also don't reveal that most ISPs want to remain as carrier only and not collectors of their customer's data (except Talk Talk who already collect it just so they can let the hackers steal it).
Sigs. We don't need no steenking sigs.
I have nothing to hide, and neither should you. Anything to make this dangerous world a bit safer.
According to the article, the proposal would pay the ISPs costs to retain the information. Given the value of the data (blackmail, harassment, etc.) there is strong incentive for many independent agents to try to get it and the track record on security for far less valuable information is not so great. I'm sure the ISPs costs are overstated and their incentive to do a great job securing the data properly is not so clear.
It's psychosomatic. You need a lobotomy. I'll get a saw.
I strongly suggest every capable person in the UK put up every single piece of browser history of every single official (all of them; assume they're all in on it just like they're assuming you're all terrorists) up for everyone to read.
Yes, all of them.
In fact, do like they're planning to do to their citizens: Add and invent and "extrapolate" anything you feel like to really pad the results. More sheep, more child porn, more assassination plans... the more damning evidence the better. There shouldn't be a single UK government site or wiki article that *doesn't* lead to everything those sickening assholes are getting off to by monday morning.
You, sir are an asshole
Time for bed, said Zebedee - boing
Anyone who threatens government power.
Thank you, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and so many others, for courageously defending humanity, my freedom and more!
SELECT user, url FROM visits WHERE url LIKE '%sex%' AND user IN (SELECT user FROM visits WHERE url LIKE '%politics%');
Do you know biology? Look it up. Darwin and later genetics, show that the difference between all people in the world is minimal. A, for example, black person may look very different, their genetics are very similar.
Thank you, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and so many others, for courageously defending humanity, my freedom and more!
Privacy for anyone anywhere
If you've done nothing, then you've got nothing to hide :)
Just remember, European governments are really concerned about your privacy! That's why they want all the private and personal data of Europeans kept on European servers. You know, so that they can better protect you!
I'm under the impression that the NSA can crack a lot of the commonly used internet encryption protocols, so I assume that GHCQ can was well. So what about more common police forces? Has breaking crypto become sufficiently inexpensive that these units can break it when they the need has arisen?
What baffles me about this wanton disregard for anyone's privacy is whom exactly it is designed to catch?
I am fairly sure your average terrorist cell is sophisticated enough to advise on VPNs and encryption - so surely the data collected by an ISP is meaningless chatter? Anyone seriously interested in doing damage to the UK will have taken steps to hide their intentions.
I am grateful we have services that operate to protect us from threats to the subjects of the country, but do they really need to read my e-mails to do so?
The ignorant will not be swayed by facts. Hence their ignorance.
Quickest way to kill it is to send them the bill for coding, power, location hosting, backups, etc. As soon as they fund the expense it happens. It'll die as an unfunded expense.
The truth shall set you free!
Or just use a VPN service or TOR
Lots of trivial ways around this... no need to panic.
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
As long as the government is willing to allow the public access to all government emails and phone records also.
Spy on them as they spy on us. Fair is fair.
Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.
Searches using Google run through HTTPS. So, how exactly is the ISP to record those searches?
Clueless? Sometimes the correct answer is the most obvious one. They aren't clueless; they are simply self-serving, and making the obvious choices that a self-serving person would make.
Cameron (the dead pig fucker) states himself that they leave "no place to hide", no encryption (that can't be broken) no VPN, etc.
All of this while holding the specter of the the 4 horsemen of the infopocalypse.
Dead Pig Romance
http://www.thedailybeast.com/a...
Cameron: No Encryption
http://www.theguardian.com/com...
4 horsemen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Couple all that with CCTV, and a garden variety of other assaults on the freedoms on the UK and you get Prison Island. (My name for the UK)
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
was a cautionary tale -- not an instruction manual!
For U.K. residents. For the last few days we have been doing a survey and contacting e-mail providers and website providers in Amsterdam where a warrant is still required. The response we got back was good most of them if the law does pass and even if it does not are considering introducing English interfaces to their e-mail systems plus webmail plus hosting. It will work with Firefox and the Tor network this will stop your ISP from tracking you to your webmail interface. The Tor network are also introducing a message system.
That's irrelevant.
Tor doesn't hide the fact that you use Tor. You should already assume that if you use Tor anywhere, your adversary knows that you use it, they just don't know what you do with it.
Furthermore, either your adversary can see both ends of your connection (Tor's thread model doesn't cover this) and basic traffic correlation will de-anonymize you, or they can't and they learn nothing more by logging which Tor entry guard your MAC connected to.
Again, that doesn't matter as long as the info you leak on the clearnet isn't correlated with what you do through Tor. If you read LWN through Tor Browser while browsing Facebook on clearnet Google Chrome, the adversary still doesn't know that it was you reading LWN, all they know is that you used Tor to do *something*.
Now if you're connecting to your Facebook through Tor Browser, you're obviously royally fucked, but that's your own damn fault.
TL;DR: Your threat model is broken, YOU'RE not paranoid enough.
We'll we're all ignorant on some things. But they seem wilfully ignorant. Especially when it threatens their religion.
Thank you, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and so many others, for courageously defending humanity, my freedom and more!
Apparently, at year end, Facebook will be automatically sharing all of your old posts to anyone using a search engine, no matter how they were posted, unless you go into FB options for security and change Privacy for all old posts to Friends Only instead of Public. You might also want to look at what FB thinks your history is and delete things like pics you don't want shared.
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The fucks that got to do with anything?
The fact that a persons external features can be WILDLY different means their brains can't be? Their muscular structure can't be? Their skeleton? Their veins?
What a useless, horrible example.
We KNOW for a fact that there are differences between races.
Each of them have their own advantages and disadvantages. Some people have more brute strength and less intelligence, some people have higher intelligence and smaller frames, there are even sub-races that have entirely different vein structures that also sadly lead to an increase in blood clots.
None of them are superior to each other, though, like most racist asses would like to think.
One thing often attacked is the whole intelligence issues as mentioned above.
Even if there is a noticeable difference in baseline intelligence, does it matter? Hell no.
You would be implying that intelligence is an END-goal of evolution. It is not.
All that intelligence is not going to stop a lion ripping your face off.
Brute strength might, just might, allow you to hit it hard enough that you wound it and can escape.
Evolution is a delicate balancing act between features, things get shifted around, it is all about energy use. If you increase one thing, others have to budge or get cut to make room.
The only way we will evolve beyond that limit is through artificial means.
We don't live on a planet that is energy-rich enough to allow for vastly more complex bodies than what some mammals have just now.
Of course, that is merely an educated guess. Our DNA might just be horribly inefficient. We know our genome is unstable, so it easily could be that.
I would take as many migrants into my country as possible no matter where they come from. The only better thing is if scum like you would leave.
Let's shit on nerds.
You get upset over what happens to your internet information but dont give a shit about how the track you in real life.
Things like driver license and fishing license are for neither of those activities.
So this gives additional "liberties" (pun intended) to literally anybody who approaches corruption as "first, get a job here".
Now the avenue to abuse of power is abundantly clear. You don't get to spy unless you get a job there first. Corruption will require prior infiltration.
OK. Since we know nobody except saints and innocent school kids will ever ever everrrr even consider thinking about trying to work someplace first before subverting or abusing the system.
Stupid fucking idea. Stop believing people trying to scare you into paying them. ffs. Every day is some new dumb ass shit.
Un-Hypnotize yourselves. Turn off your TV's.
Once this is indeed put in place have a robot access a large set of sites randomly and send emails on frequent intervals to itself or a set of known bad addresses (or even known good ones that have the inbox thrown away daily). This will effectively grow the logs and history to so ridiculous proportions that analyzing anything will be pointless and storing all that data will become a major expense for ISPs. Once there is compelling evidence that this is bad for business and ISPs unfortunately have to cut back on contributions to political campaigns because of that the law will be scrapped in no time. You want data? OK, here, I give you tons of it! Data is not the same as information, ya know?
Did I say there are no differences? He's talking about "historically White countries", as if those white people where 'good' people and then "import millions of the absolute lowest dregs of humanity". Don't you think he means that those people are lesser because they look different? The statue of liberty specifically says "Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Thank you, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and so many others, for courageously defending humanity, my freedom and more!