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Mexican Senator Drafts One of the World's Worst Internet Laws (gizmodo.com)
Kyusaku Natsume writes: This week, Mexican Senator Omar Fayad from ruling party PRI proposed a law to the Mexican Senate that would make it illegal to update your OS, disparage politicians, or become a whistleblower (Google translation of Spanish original), among other such nonsense. The poorly drafted law was written with the collaboration of the Mexican Federal Police — the agency that caused the U.S. government to cut back its financial support in the Mexican drug war because of their constant human rights abuses. Unsurprisingly, the stated goals of the law are to fight child pornography, identity theft, online bullying, and financial fraud.
It's weird to hear this called "world's worst internet laws" when I don't see a day go by without SJWs essentially asking for the exact same thing.
Apps run on App Devices, not LUDDITE computers, so LUDDITE Mexico wouldn't be able to app your apps!
Apps!
Wait until someone tells him about the Dark Web.
"Never give up, for that is just the time and place when the tide will change." -Harriet Beecher Stowe ^_^
Maybe he's joking?
Ted Cruz will create the final draft for the US senate.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
Isn't that the same in each and every country?
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That's nuts. I can understand the rest from the viewpoint of a corrupt politician, but this one is extremely stupid.
Updates are forbidden? Call it an Upgrade.
No new taxes? No problem, call it a fee....
See how easy this is?
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
Now there's a fine hispanic name...
And the stated goals of fighting child pornography, identity theft, online bullying, and financial fraud are some of the same arguments members of the current US Administration, the House, and the Senate use to curtail the inalienable rights of the citizens of this country.
The Google translation is completely wrong.
The document states they would like to make it illegal to modify or distribute the contents of computers that are not your own without permission of the owner. This applies specifically to problems they have had with computers being taken to local repair shops and nude pictures being obtained from the computer and then being distributed on the local web sites.
The document also states that modifying any contents online or off of someone else's information/data in degrading or disparaging ways without their express permission would be a prosecuteable offense based on the nature and severity of the crime.
They specifically named public servants because of crony capitalism corruption issues throughout Latin America, but the law would be applicable to everyone.
I, personally, do not see this as a bad thing.
I'm not sure where you're interpreting the whistleblower thing.
Are you referring to the part that states no reward will be given to those who turn in individuals who are caught doing this?
There's a reason for this: They don't want it to become a blackmail market or to lead to people being framed or extorted for profit.
Wow did Google drop the ball on that translation.
I see this as legislation that the United States might want to consider. Or at least keep an eye on Mexico to see how this pans out. We're sorely in need of protecting individual rights and this is a potential experiment that might benefit us.
None of the claims in the article are true. While the draft has many inconsistencies and deficiencies (no exceptions for white hat or academic hacking among others), it does not criminalize anything of what is said in the article. Said law has been attacked heavily due to political reasons (Senator is on his way to be a governor candidate) and not because the law itself (that is really needed as there is a void in the legislation on cyber-crime that's due for over a decade).
You have to understand the Mexican judicial system is different and laws are not interpreted in the same way as English common law (Mexico uses civil law with heavier Roman law influences).
The wording of the law where people are claiming it would be illegal to modify your own PC, specifically words "dolosamente", which roughly could be translated to "with malicious intent". So yes, the purpose of said law is to criminalize any modifications or alterations to an information system with malicious intent, not wiping your own mobile. Both the original 3RD and gizmodo articles deliberately choose to omit that part. Which any decent lawyer or tribunal wouldn't.
The law also provides that any of the crimes in it will be prosecuted as private crimes, where the affected part needs to press charges and can withdraw them (issue a private pardon) at any time; with the exception of crimes against public infrastructure. It also provides that tribunals & judges must be consulted by IT experts on any cases regarding the law (so interpretation of the law would be influenced by the industry professionals).
You expect any think better from a wetback?
Keep the whitehouse white, vote Trump & Palin 2020.
Instead of fighting illegal immigration and police corruption in Mexico. The U.S. needs to bight the bullet and annex Mexico already. Mexico is like the weird uncle by marriage. He's odd and overtly inappropriate at times but he's family. And if the military tries to fight us we know we can pay most of them to switch sides.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
Don't worry. The USA will return to number 1 quickly. One of our senators will draw up a bill that's even worse. You can take that to the bank.
USA USA USA
the Mexican Senate south of the border, or the one in Yakima, WA?
More and more lately I'm becoming convinced that the Internet, which at one time showed such great promise, has just become utterly useless for anything other than paying your bills and shopping -- and there are plenty of criminals out there who would ruin it for that, too.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
I can't believe that nobody's made a joke yet about how many Mexican CPUs you can fit into a microATX case.
You are welcome on my lawn.
SJWs don't have to propose things to Congress, because they are working for Congress.
The platform on the Democratic side uses bullshit generated by extremists to push an agenda. The bullshit is that women only make 70c on every dollar a man makes, and that 1 in 3 women are raped. Her personal attack changing Sander's quote from "I'm tired of people yelling about things while not taking action" to "some people call women talking screaming" is such an obvious piece of propaganda that you have to be both blind and mentally retarded to miss it (and no, I'm not a Sander's fan). Read the studies yourself and compare the bullshit to _FACTS_.
Title 9 allowing college tribunals to put people on trial for "sexual assault" was already passed and Universities already ruin people over allegations.
I have not heard any "main stream" media mention that Hillary's "win" in the last debate was based on a sample size of 168 people. I did not hear any difficult questions from the media in that debate for her regarding any of her allegations that she's pro women yet takes many millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia and Qatar where women are stoned to death for disobeying their husband or doing something without permission. Her obvious lies about email were dropped by the media. But I have heard EVERY station complain about how Ben Carson talks and looks, how "cheap" Sander's suits are. (which includes the Daily show which used to be at least partially unbiased).
SJWs have as much power as the people with real power want them to have. Since it keeps us bickering with each other and them in power, they heap it on by the truckload.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Germany is not a particularly old country, I'd argue that it's only as old as 1871 in its current unified form. The idea that it must be reunited out of some tradition is unreasonable given that to date it's been in a unified state for maybe 100 years total. Germany as a nation is younger than the American Civil War, I hope that puts things in perspective. And I'm not saying a country has to be old to be unified, that obviously makes no sense as no country would be unified under that case. But that East and West Germany have some old cultural connection beyond language is laughable. East Germany could have easily been operated as a free independent nation after the fall of the Berlin Wall an joined the EU. The messy bit would be the city of Berlin itself, but it could have become the next Luxembourg or perhaps Potsdam could have been rolled into it and it would be the next Belgium.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
for being associated with a man-child like you. I take it it was some wort of arraigned marriage, or you have comprising pictures of her entire family.
I've read a lot of computer law stories recently. All of them seem to take a slant of "politicians are idiots who don't understand computers". But when I've read them, the interpretation of "tech journalists are idiots who don't understand the law" seems a much more valid conclusion.
In most political systems, several people are involved in drafting these laws. Is it really likely that none of them thought through the possible ramifications?
Journalists, on the other hand, tend to work alone. And they often believe what other journalists write. Is it perhaps possible, that the journalist misinterpreted the wording of the bill?
Let's shit on nerds.
The vast majority of Mexicans living in huts don't care, the rich don't care as they buy off whoever they need. It's an attempt to strangle the middle class, assuming Mexico has one, because that's where the growth always comes from.
In an irrational kleptocracy, the poor and uneducated and unconnected will stay poor and uneducated and unconnected, the rich are always rich, and its important to keep new people from becoming rich.
Anyone else find it hilarious that Windows 10 doesn't give a crap about Mexican laws?
He almost got the four horsemen of the infocalypse right. But I guess money laundering is no longer on the table, considering, well, who'd want to piss off their main money source?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Everyone, as in EVERYONE, would be better off without the War on Drugs. I'm sure you all know this... "Now get back to drinking beer and being fat and stupid" -- Bill Hicks, Philosophy
Franz Kafka didn't describe an imaginary country in his works, he just visited secretly Mexico sometime in his life.
So basically a technological luddite, if the story is correct. apart from the complete misguided nature of how to really tackle the issue. Which should be very well known to all. humanity ;).
This being said. Luddites want to prohibit technological growth, i.e the future of operating systems for computers. but also taking into account wrong headed information, mis-information, rumor, dis-information. and the ever looming possibility of war, be it civil, or gang related. the environment, and given the basic necessities of all mankind i do indeed think i know what it is people do actually want. They want a fair go.
child porn appears because of pre-conceptions of innocence, identity theft appears from wreckless appropriation of law and social justice. online bullying comes from a branch of, social inequality, gender and physical variations, a lack of Maintenance of educational principles which *should* be really upheld by everyone, because of the interdependence of all people needlessly... The person should have the strength and know-how to start a country or/and start a colony on another planet(expand on creativity...if you want). these being taken care of, identity theft and financial fraud should vanish over the amount of time unitll it becomes apparent. for an example. would you break the law if you knew you would get caught? would something still happen if something was predicted?
You can just pay the cops to look the other way. Business as usual.
Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.