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Anonymous Begins Publishing Ku Klux Klan Member Details Online
An anonymous reader writes: Anonymous has begun releasing the personal details of members of the Ku Klux Klan, escalating its cyberwar against the white supremacist group. Last week the hacktivist group promised to reveal the identity of 1,000 members of the KKK after getting possession of the private information through a compromised Twitter account. A press release from Anonymous reads in part: "After closely observing so many of you for so very long, we feel confident that applying transparency to your organizational cells is the right, just, appropriate and only course of action. You are abhorrent. Criminal. You are more than extremists. You are more than a hate group. You operate much more like terrorists and you should be recognized as such. You are terrorists that hide your identities beneath sheets and infiltrate society on every level. The privacy of the Ku Klux Klan no longer exists in cyberspace. You’ve had blood on your hands for nearly 200 years. You continue to inflict civil rights violations, commit violent crimes and solicit others to commit violent criminal acts. You seek to intimidate and/or eliminate those that are different from you and those that you dislike by any means possible. You seek to terrorize anyone and anything that you feel is a threat to your narrow view of the 'American way of life'."
The names of a thousand hateful red necks. Sounds like the best reading list for the winter. The real fun will be to see who gets wrongly targeted. I hope no one has the same name as me or signed me up. Vigilantes for the win!
The crux of the matter comes down to this: is it a burning issue?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Looking at the Pastebin data, seems almost all the E-mail addresses in the pre-release come from a Russian site. It would be interesting to have some confirmation before people listed in the data get the dogs of war sicced on them.
One anonymous criminal organization exposing another. For transparency no less!
There are no journalistic controls in place. They can put whoever they want on that list.
Oh wait... we hates the KKK so it's just "publishing" informaiton.
Information we don't even have decent proof as to the nature of the source.
Like Dan Rather's proof that Bush got preferential treatment - Until the documents were proved as forgeries - That's ok, he said, the documents are fake but what they said is true!
So which is it? Do Slashdot's editors now agree that doxxing is good?
The data in this one makes no sense.
This isn't Anon, this is someone else trying to discredit Anonymous before the real data comes out.
The usefulness of your post notwithstanding, I heard in a news broadcast a few months ago (to my recollection) that the Klan's membership used to numbers in the millions at its peak and is now measured in tens of thousands. Happily, it's a club apparently on the decline.
The short post of four US Senators and five US mayors includes one openly gay mayor and a older Latina woman who started her political career organizing Mexican laborers with Cesar Chavez. That alone casts a bit of doubt on the accuracy of this list.
An alternative theory - a lot of these individuals may have signed up for these mailing lists simply to monitor these groups, and some of them may have just been signed up by other people as a prank. Just pulling information from a mailing list hardly represents membership.
They say it be as it is, comrade.
But is not.
So, a lot of people have been asking about this...asking why so many of the addresses end in ".ru"
Fundamentally...think about it. Russia is a haven for a lot of different things, including bulletproof hosting that is beyond the reach of the FBI and other Western LEOs, either via direct raids, wiretaps or by more procedural means (subpoenas, etc.). So it entirely makes sense that people who are, in the truest sense of the word, interested in the overthrow of the US Government as it exists today should use email accounts that are hosted in Russia, far from the reach of the organizations that are out to get them.
For your security, this post has been encrypted with ROT-13, twice.
The Klan as a mainstream group, even in the deep south, peaked in the 1920's. It had a brief minor resurgence in the 1960's during the civil rights movement, but for the most part it's a fringe-of-a-fringe-of-a-fringe movement and has been for most of its existence. Exposing them isn't even fighting racism, since their membership rolls today are made up of a tiny handful of disenfranchised rednecks who don't have any power to oppress or intimidate anyone. Hitting them today is like stabbing Julius Caesar several decades after his funeral. It's a pointless feel-good exercise that doesn't help anyone.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
There are dark times ahead for the KKK.
First they came for the pedophiles. I was not a pedophile, so I did nothing.
Then they came for the Klansmen. I was not a Klan member, so I did nothing.
Then they came for the Anonymous Cowards who post on Slashdot.
There was nobody left but me and my buddy CowboyNeal and we were no match for The Legion.
What, not you too CowboyNeal. Nooooooo!!!!!!!
Cases of arson, lynching, beatings, killings, cross burnings and voter suppression in an organized manner against a specific segment of the population? These activities have been ongoing for over a hundred years in a systematic manner? The frequency is down but it still occurs or is overlooked. I would call that terrorism at the very least.
Architectural plans are like computer source code with a couple of differences: You only compile once.
--Anonymous also inadvertently published the identities of all the developers of the KDE Desktop. Presumably this was an error.
What is a terrorist?
a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.
the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
So are you saying that the KKK does not use violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims?
When you cant win, ad hominem.
In Freakonomics, they delve into one man's 30 year war against the KKK, where he broadcasts things like their secret rituals and so on, on radio shows, effectively turning them from a serious organization to a laughingstock few people (relatively) wanted to join, in the early part of the century.
The vast bulk of damage to them is already long done. The point of the article was mockery, rather than outlawing, seemed to be much more productive.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Cases of arson, lynching, beatings, killings, cross burnings and voter suppression in an organized manner against a specific segment of the population?....The frequency is down but it still occurs or is overlooked.
But when was the last time any of that happened? I have not seen stories about anything like that for many years - the most recent stuff being black churches set fire to, which it turned out was not don't by the KKK at all (who would seem to have been a primary suspect).
I'm not saying the KKK has not been a horrible organization in the past, or even that they are in any way an organization that should be supported today. I'm saying that they have become essentially irrelevant, and the resources used to combat the "terrorists" of the KKK would be far better spent on real terrorists - but they aren't because the real terrorists can bite. Attacking the KKK like this is lame because it's pretending to help people while actually helping no-one.
The KKK is dying, why even give them the publicity these attacks grant? It can only help the KKK at this point.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
So if your name shows up in this dump, will that be a public service too? Because it most certainly could. What possible mechanism do you think exists to unequivocally verify whether any of these names denote actual members of the KKK before their reputations are irreparable tarnished?
The soylentnews experiment has been a dismal failure.
How is it no malicious? They intend for these people to be mobbed, it is the whole point of releasing the names.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
I don't think much of the KKK but to call them "terrorists" seems a pretty big stretch
The KKK has done some pretty bad things over the past decades. On equal with what ISIS and other terrorists have done.
Indeed the definition of terrorism is "the use of violence is the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes."
http://withoutsanctuary.org/
Tell me that was not violence for political purposes. Try me.
Just because the lynchings aren't widespread anymore doesn't mean the other violence went away. And it's not just "Cletus the redneck douchebag" as a member, it's politicians and law enforcement.
Yes, these people do need to be exposed. If this makes you uneasy, too bad.
--
BMO
Oh great, now their hat sewing pattern is all over Interwebs. Thanks alot.
Table-ized A.I.
But unlike being a criminal, being a Klan member indicates you are a bad person.
Oh wait, they are not doing anything to expose actual terrorists...
Oh really? The only people that seems to have scared them off are the drug cartels.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
I don't like the Tea Party either, but there's plenty of legitimate stuff to complain about, we don't need to assign negative traits to them.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
The names of a thousand hateful red necks.
"Redneck" is a racial slur. It insinuates that the target is, not just from a rural culture (especially - a poor white southern farmer), and not just sunburned on the back of his neck due to working outdoors with a short haircut, but also that he may be part American Indian. (It originates in a time where this was considered to be extremely "poor breeding", and many so-called "sundown towns" had laws requiring people with any American Indian genetics to be out of town by undown.
It currently has an implication that the pepole it is applied to are unintelligent and uneducated. (The space program proves the lie of this: Note the accents of the people involved. A substantial fraction of real rocket scientists are, and were, rednecks.) This slur dates at least to the Scopes Monkey Trial (which was largely a propaganda piece fomented by the mining interests to brand the miners, who were trying to unionize at the time, as igorant idiots in the urban east coast's public perception.)
Rule of thumb: If you don't self-identify as a redneck, and wouldn't use the "N" word, don't use the "R" word.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
You don't know anything about the Tea Party except what you've been told by CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, etc. If you knew anything about them, you'd probably agree with them. Don't let your ignorance blind you.
They are not a "hate" group and have plenty of black members. They even have a lot of members who are Democrats!
The usefulness of your post notwithstanding, I heard in a news broadcast a few months ago (to my recollection) that the Klan's membership used to numbers in the millions at its peak and is now measured in tens of thousands. Happily, it's a club apparently on the decline.
The clan has had many rises and falls throughout history -- it hasn't been one continuous organization. This is the third Ku Klux Klan active. The first arose (and fell) during Southern Reconstruction after the Civil War, the second Klan was active between WWI and WWII (and was more concerned about Catholics, Jews, and immigrants moreso than black people), and the third arose post-World War II. Who knows if a fourth will ever arise. At first, I thought it would be more difficult in today's world of hyper-connectedness, but one of the side-effects is that it's now far easier for geographically-distant radicals to band together and enjoy their echo chamber.
Being a passive racist is not the same as joining a racist organization.
I wish that my inferiority complex were as good as yours.
-RenderHead
So, what you're saying is as long as the accusation is "KKK" it is okay to be guilty until proven innocent.
Accusations are all you need? I think you might be a child molester and domestic terrorist.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
That's because they're so abysmally low, that two people joining today probably is a 10% bump.
and, the Anonymous statement above "You seek to intimidate and/or eliminate those that are different from you and those that you dislike by any means possible" could equally be applied to Anonymous, just sayin....
So wanting constitutionally limited government now equals being racist KKK terrorists?
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
Not only that but Black, Hispanic and South Asian Tea Party activists have been elected to congress (and the Senate).
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
What are the odds that those published will end up losing their jobs and such? You think that will end up causing more problems?
This might be a better way to deal with things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Those with whom we choose to associate say a lot about our character and about our choices. Choices are one thing that an employee can be judged-on. I see no reason for any employer to be compelled to retain anyone that is affiliated with an organization like this.
As to your point about dialogue, that only works when the group being addressed is either well enough organized or small enough to be cohesive and for its members to operate as a single voice. Look at the fragmentation of the IRA during The Troubles, there were an uncountable number of splinter groups such that establishing a dialogue with one was no sure means to deal with all, an if anything could incite violence by the others.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
al copone also started the first soup kitchen. Gangsers of all sorts always give back to the community (well the smart ones do)
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
We should never allow people with unpopular opinions to have any privacy at all.
Although I agree with you that this isn't a case where the violation of privacy is warranted, handwaving it away as an "unpopular opinion" is disingenuous and, frankly, betrays your credibility. You cannot behave as though free speech is more important than the safety of lots of people, then turn around and suddenly it's just a few inconsequential mutterings and any response shows just how petty one side is.
Either free speech is powerful or it isn't, pick one and stick with it, you don't get to have your cake and eat it, too.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
And the difference between that and the 50s with keeping anyone who didn't have a hard right wing imperialist streak from working in many fields is....what exactly?
Remember boys and girls that your views may be mainstream NOW but that does NOT mean they will be mainstream in the future, and those same weapons you applaud being used against those you don't agree with can be easily used on you. If free speech is to be anything but an echo chamber mockery of the word we MUST protect the right of those we do not agree with to speak, otherwise your only freedom is the "freedom" to agree with the majority on everything.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Uhh that seems unrelated. These ppl are assholes who harrass/intimidate/etc others using their privacy.
Why? It's one thing if they're a terrorist organization, but it's a whole other thing if they're just groveling among themselves about how much they hate x. Unless you can prove somebody has done something beyond simply being bigoted, then doxing them is an evil thing to do.
their loudest voice is Sarah Palin, what more do you need to know?
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
and, it's troubling that it makes use of the "200 years" line.
Unless you've got some highlanders under them there hoods, we generally, in the civilized world, don't hold people responsible for the sins of their fathers. Probably a vanishingly small fraction of the membership has ever taken part in a lynching. And there are laws to go after those people... you know the ones against murder.
This is a troubling thing, going after americans for their associations.