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The $6,000 Computer Desk That Lets You Lie Down While You Work

HughPickens.com writes: We've all read about standing desks and treadmill desks but now Rachel Gillet reports at Business Insider about the Altwork Station, a workstation that allows users to sit, stand, and recline while they work on their computers. Designed to accomodate two computer screens, the manufacturer says their new product is the ultimate combination for workplace productivity. "Most experts agree that humans should change positions and move throughout the day. We believe movement throughout the day is important," says the company who targets "high intensity" computer users, which it defines as people who spend at least four hours a day in front of a computer and are required to focus on complex tasks for extended periods of time. If the $5,900 ($3,900, if you pre-order) reclining workstation is not for you, there are other options you may want to consider including the scooter desk, bicycle desk, and hamster wheel desk.

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  1. Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by tomxor · · Score: 1

    I don't care for the debate but lying down working vs standing or sitting makes for almost the least physical movement possible, this is how they used to study the effects of microgravity on earth - subject the patient to a bed for a month... not much difference between those studies and this.

    1. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I actually work like this all the time. I have damage to my lymph system from an infection that makes my legs swell if they are hanging downward all day long. A desk like this would be awesome! I've often thought about trying to build one, but I'm not much of a handyman. I use a recliner chair instead, working with a laptop, but I really wish I weren't stuck using a laptop and that's where the chair in TFA would be great. Reclining while you work is also much nicer for your back: I used to have back pains all the time but they're mostly gone now.

    2. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I usually find that the company-provided breads are stale, hard and tasteless. I much prefer buying my own from a local bakery.

    3. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by zlives · · Score: 1

      i don;t think the lying down is supposed to be the default position, also if you can pay 6K for a desk then you are probably not a worker bee anyway.

    4. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      not much difference between those studies and this.

      Considering a big part of some issues come from being in the same position for a long time, there is a pretty big difference even between spending a month in a lying position vs. lying down for a full work day with regular drink & bathroom breaks. And if you are using this chair to lie down all day, then you're using it wrong and wasted a lot of money.

    5. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by Alypius · · Score: 2

      Don't egg him on. He kneads this desk the yeast.

    6. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by Tx · · Score: 2

      No matter http://developers.slashdot.org... you slice it, the bread puns in this thread are getting a bit out of hand.

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    7. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by Tx · · Score: 1

      That was meant to read "No matter how you slice it, the bread puns in this thread are getting a bit out of hand". Now I look like a right numpty. I'll get the hang of touch-screens one of these days.

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    8. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      You're confused. When you hear people saying "Work is a PITA!" they mean "Pain In The Ass", not a type of bread!

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    9. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      I actually work like this all the time.

      My wife does too. She has a back injury, and cannot work while sitting. She uses this arm, inverted to hang a 27" monitor from a rack above her bed. It costs way, way, less than $6000.

    10. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by dcollins117 · · Score: 1

      You've got to admit he's got a rye sense of humor.

    11. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I've a large night stand that has a monitor on it. I simply put the keyboard on the bed and use a wireless optical mouse. It works well for when I've gone to bed already and still feel like poking buttons. I can't stay in that position for long though, it makes me sore. I don't have any major injuries, I'm just old. It's nice for a while but I don't think I'd want to do that for extended periods of time. I just don't have my stand up against the wall. When I sleep, I move the keyboard and mouse back onto the stand. It's something to do while waiting to get tired enough to sleep. Sometimes, I even set YouTube to stream documentaries while I'm going to sleep.

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    12. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by tomxor · · Score: 1

      the bread puns in this thread are getting a bit out of hand

      At least they aren't seedy

    13. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      One thing I should thank the jebbies for.

      By Sr year I could sleep sitting up.

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    14. Re:Bone Loss, Muscle atrophy? by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Also, I'm not sure how a mouse would work. Unless you have your sensitivity way up (and I'm not sure you can go this high) you often have to pick up the mouse and move it over to get more lateral space (3-4 monitor set up) to move the mouse all the way across screens. How does that work if the mouse is attached with magnets?

      The other thing is I'm not certain that reclining with your arm wanting to go parallel with the ground will work when your keyboard/mouse is at ~45 degrees. You might not have to lift it but it is like holding your arm over your head the whole time. I can't see how that is going to be healthy. All sorts of little issues potentially too, I realize our bodies are capable of it but how much does your eyes like to be open and blinking for hours at a time while you are laying on your back? The muscles are adapted to be working directly with/against gravity for most of your waking hours. Buildings are designed that way too by the way: fans/heating ducts blowing straight down (now into your eyes) as are lights. A slightly reclining with foot rest chair would be great I think but reclining back into an almost horizontal position I think has way to many issues.

  2. So are we at Wall-E levels of inactivity yet? by LaurenCates · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean, seriously, first, we lay down, then we stay there, then we let the nice AI take care of everything...

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    1. Re:So are we at Wall-E levels of inactivity yet? by rfengr · · Score: 1

      What chair did you buy?

    2. Re:So are we at Wall-E levels of inactivity yet? by Coren22 · · Score: 3

      I tried networking with my coworkers, but I couldn't find the Cat5 ports, and the coworkers didn't appreciate me looking for them too much.

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    3. Re:So are we at Wall-E levels of inactivity yet? by TheTrueScotsman · · Score: 1
    4. Re:So are we at Wall-E levels of inactivity yet? by chilenexus · · Score: 1

      Buy and large I would say yes, we are at that level of inactivity.

    5. Re:So are we at Wall-E levels of inactivity yet? by chilenexus · · Score: 1

      That goes well with your cruel shoes.

  3. Hallelujah! by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

    What a time to be alive. I've often dreamt of playing raiding in EQ without ever leaving the bed.

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    1. Re:Hallelujah! by unrtst · · Score: 1

      Did anyone RTFA (or watch the clip showing the "desk/chair" in it)?
      Did they just glue the mouse down? How's it attached?

    2. Re:Hallelujah! by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Did anyone RTFA (or watch the clip showing the "desk/chair" in it)? Did they just glue the mouse down? How's it attached?

      Magnets. You know those little things that are pretty darn disruptive to electronics? Yeah, those.
      I can't imagine how large of a magnet they are going to need to hold the plastic mouse to the desk while upside down, to say nothing of a 30 pound plastic LCD screen.
      Oh, wait, they are probably going to sell you special metal mice, keyboards, monitors and laptops for use with the chair also.

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  4. $6000? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A $6000 desk? Does it do your work for you?

    Seriously, I can get a super comfy reclining chair, desk, projector and wireless keyboard/mouse for a fraction of that. Oh, any maybe a new PC too. Or even Google Glass.

    ... and still have beer money left over!

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    1. Re:$6000? by zlives · · Score: 2, Informative

      you clearly don't live in SF :) i think that's the cost of a starbucks coffee

    2. Re:$6000? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

      Nope... I've been there but I don't drink Starbucks coffee.

      Sounds like the economy there is comparable to Vancouver's. Must be a west coast thing ;)

      SF is also one of the most beautiful cities i've seen, btw.

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    3. Re: $6000? by ememisya · · Score: 1

      How much is a hamster wheel over there? Like a really big one, with Internet access.

    4. Re:$6000? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Expensive? I spent perhaps $3000 on a desk and chair for my home office. I got good stuff since I spend plenty of time in there. But if twice that amount would get me a serious increase in comfort I would not hesitate to spend it.

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    5. Re:$6000? by zlives · · Score: 1

      It is a fun city, i enjoy visiting every chance i get. but the scene is changing and money seems to be the biggest culprit.
      Though i am not sure if that is bad thing in of itself, i just think the new equilibrium hasn't been reached.

    6. Re: $6000? by zlives · · Score: 2

      tree-fitty

    7. Re:$6000? by LessThanObvious · · Score: 1

      I need comfy arm rests and a split keyboard so I can have my arms supported and relaxed at my sides to complete my vision of a relaxing prone computing experience. I prefer to use a mouse with a trackball, so it would work just fine glued down.

      http://kadavy.net/blog/posts/s...

    8. Re:$6000? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      The desk is some generic band, not sure which, of decent quality. It's a corner desk, large enough for all my stuff, with built in cable ducts, cable holes and power outlets. The height is adjustable but not easily. The chair is an HM Aeron (the full option one). Pricey bugger (at least over here they are) but well worth it. I once borrowed one from a lady at my last client's office when she went on maternity leave, and decided I just had to have one for myself.

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    9. Re: $6000? by ememisya · · Score: 1

      Well no wonder you keep getting those mod points. You keep giving him +1 he's gonna assume you got more!

    10. Re:$6000? by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      My current office chair reclines all the back to almost horizontal. I fail to see the need for spending $6000.

  5. Cheap alternative by wezelboy · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Cheap alternative by swb · · Score: 1

      Someone should really sell this as a kit (working out some of the issues like the Kee Klamps not being meant for structure), it's applicable to just about any recliner.

  6. dentist chair by u19925 · · Score: 1

    How is this different from a dentist chair?

    1. Re:dentist chair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You usually don't have a curved 42" monitor crashing on your head at the dentist.

    2. Re:dentist chair by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      You usually don't have a curved 42" monitor crashing on your head at the dentist.

      No, just the hygenist. ;-)

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    3. Re:dentist chair by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

      You usually don't have a curved 42" monitor crashing on your head at the dentist.

      No, just the hygenist. ;-)

      My hygienist is taller than yours. I win.

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    4. Re:dentist chair by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      No, just the hygienist. ;-)

      I go to a Korean "hygienist", she works a bit lower.

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    5. Re:dentist chair by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      LOL ... did I say taller?

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  7. LOL .... w00t? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    A possible benefit of the reclining desk? Plenty of research promotes the usefulness of an afternoon nap.

    Yeah, and the morning nap, and the mid morning nap, and the noon nap, and the afternoon nap.

    Right, it's going to make you more productive AND help with naps.

    We believe you.

    I'd be interested in a desk which could quickly switch from sitting to standing. But the reclining desk? That sounds like a terrible idea.

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  8. Not as useful as a real desk by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    You can't put papers on it, organize files in drawers, store pencils, paperclips etc. in it. So it is not as versatile as a real desk. As such, they should probably price it below a traditional desk. I would suggest a price point of perhaps $50.

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    1. Re:Not as useful as a real desk by tomxor · · Score: 1

      i'm not sure how his mouse was staying on there but i'm sure a big dose of bluetack would solve your concerns :P

    2. Re:Not as useful as a real desk by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      So, I want the one which can pivot around like I'm shooting at tie fighters.

      I'll just sit there in my desk panning around going "pew pew", and after an exhausting morning of that, I'll take my afternoon nap.

      I won't be needing papers or files or paperclips in that scenario.

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    3. Re:Not as useful as a real desk by PPH · · Score: 1

      I was thinking about my coffee.

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    4. Re: Not as useful as a real desk by MenThal · · Score: 1

      This. And an Occulus Rift. And a bucket to hurl in...

    5. Re:Not as useful as a real desk by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Personally I am imagining the horrible case of Gorilla arms from using the keyboard/mouse above your head.

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  9. It looks like... by Holi · · Score: 1

    It really looks like a dentists chair. I dread work enough I don't need flashbacks of drilled teeth to haunt my day.

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  10. That chair is amateur hour... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Check out these guys... http://www.ergoquest.com/zero-gravity-workstations.html

    I'll take the Zero Gravity Workstation 10 please.

  11. don't need $6000 by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are plenty of flexible and adjustable screen holders and keyboard holders that let you work in any position you like, for the simple reason that there are plenty of people with disabilities or who are bed ridden.

    The cheapest alternative, however, is probably prism eye glasses, for less than $10. Search for "bed prism glasses" on Google.

  12. Re:Impractical in real life? by zlives · · Score: 1

    i wondered more about the mouse...

  13. Pretty hefty price tag by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

    But it looks freakin' awesome!

    I could imagine raiding with one of these... Cheeto dust covering my chest... It just needs a beer holder...

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  14. Why pay that much? by whitroth · · Score: 1

    Let's see, at home: desk of plywood, which I really need to clean and stain, cut from 4'x8'; hutch from 1"x12"s, feet on desk, keyboard in lap, at least 2'-3' away from my monitor. *

    I need to pay $6k for something custom to replace this?

            mark

    * I had a class in ergonomics, once, and this is ergonomic: wrists are fully supported by my lap, and you want the distance to the monitor: it still cycles at about 60cps, and if you're a foot or so from your screen, then 50% or 60% of the light falling on your eyes is strobing like that, and we know that fluorescents do the same, and can set off epileptics... besides, I don't care if it was a CRT, or a monitor, or a flatscreen, it's still a television, and didn't your mother never tell you not to sit so close to the TV?

  15. I will take george costanza's desk for less by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    I will take george costanza's desk for less

    1. Re:I will take george costanza's desk for less by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      For any that didn't get the reference:

      http://www.news.com.au/finance...

      Video at bottom.

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  16. Re:Looks terribly uncomfortable by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That laptop is totally going to fall on my face. Or the ground.

    It actually looks like it could be comfortable, if set up properly, but I don't want heavy objects balanced above me while I work.

  17. Re:Impractical in real life? by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

    i wondered more about the mouse...

    Like so many of life's mysteries, it is all splained with magnets.

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  18. mouse glued down... by amoeba1911 · · Score: 1

    They show the desk recline and the mouse stays attached to the mouse pad. It's either:
    A. mouse glued down: useless
    B. magnetic pad with enough friction to hold a mouse still (too much friction)
    C. magic (aka lies)

    Either way this doesn't seem useful. I wouldn't get one even if it was 1/50th of the cost. There are suckers out there who are willing to give it a try, that's why there are companies out there that make this junk and this is why God invented the "junk closet" - because that's where this contraption will go after roughly 5 hours of usage.

    1. Re:mouse glued down... by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      They said everything attached by magnets so I think it is B. But when is the last time you saw a metal mouse (at least if you aren't an Apple fanboy)? Probably paranoid but who wants a magnet that close to their computer/external drive and whatever gadgets you might chose to plugin?

      For those that have offices a shelf with a spare pair of monitors and a KVM is a decent standing desk. A product manager at my office has that setup, has the bonus of when she gets antsy and sick sitting with the same view she can walk around her desk to the standing area for a while. They also put that shelf right next to her door which I assume would be useful when you need to quickly pop in and send out a few emails between meetings or what not. Something about the act of sitting tacks 5 min onto any quick email scan.

  19. Just need a feeding tube! by ripvlan · · Score: 1

    I see a higher level of catering necessary for this desk.

    Just push my Dr Pepper & Tuna sandwiches via a tube and I would never have to get up.

    1. Re:Just need a feeding tube! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      my Dr Pepper & Tuna sandwiches

      Don't they get a bit soggy?

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  20. QWERTYface... by swschrad · · Score: 1

    you've got the cutest little QWERTYface
    in this space
    why don't you get your ass out-a here...

    everybody, sing along!

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  21. Liars by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    At first I misread the headline as "...Let's You Lie While You Work".

    I was thinking their first customers will be politicians and car makers.

  22. Heh, so a dentist chair, with different attachment by bakchuda · · Score: 1

    This isn't really a new concept. Just has an expensive Areon-ish shell. https://www.google.com/search?...

  23. seriously, get a standing desk by Ionized · · Score: 2

    buy a $40 ikea coffee table, put it on top of your desk, use it as your keyboard & mouse stand.
    buy a $50 tall monitor mount from amazon that clamps to the back of your desk and raises your monitor or laptop to eye height.
    buy a $30 hog heaven foam floor mat to stand on

    play music and shuffle & move around as you work. i used to have constant lower back problems from sitting all day, but ever since i've switched, my back has been great. it's also been great for my overall health. do it for yourself.

    the first week or so of adjustment period is a little rough, but from there on out it's smooth sailing.

    1. Re:seriously, get a standing desk by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Thought bubble of inventor: "sitting is bad for you but I don't want to stand, I know if I could only lie down all day ..." I'd like a standing setup but stuck in a cubicle with desks too narrow to put anything on (and 3 monitors plus a couple days a week my laptop on the desk). But rarely if ever sit for more than an hour at a time. Between coffee, the corresponding washroom breaks, and eating 3 meals a day at work (usually coming to work after the gym so protein, then lunch in a couple hours, then snack a couple hours after that). Mah.

      I say if you can't find an excuse to stand up every hour your job doesn't involve enough thinking for my tastes. I'm thinking about how I'm going to design a feature/test, what technology will solve a problem, business goals of what my feature should look like to the end user etc when I'm walking around for my coffee. It isn't wasted time, sitting at my desk trying to pound something out without stopping to think would be.

  24. How is this new? by ventsyv · · Score: 1

    I had this same idea 15 years ago, then I saw an article online that someone started making them and I was pissed. Since then, every 5 years or so, I see what feels like the same article, completed with the same pictures claiming "someone just invented a lie down desk"...

  25. This isn't new? Show me. by jaffray · · Score: 1

    Lots of people claiming that this has been done before, or is available for cheaper. Really? Show me.

    The point of this desk is that it lets you transition seamlessly between standing, sitting, and reclining positions, with the desk and monitor properly positioned in all cases. I'm unaware of anything in the under-$5000 range that does this.

    The workstation setup I've found that's most comfortable for me is a monitor arm swinging out over a recliner, but it doesn't let me move around, and my neck is bent forward to look at the monitor, causing neck and shoulder pain. (Without the monitor arm, looking at the laptop screen, it's even worse.) A conventional desk setup, even with fancy ergonomic chair and keyboard, creates problems with my back and arms. I've briefly experimented with standing desks (IKEA hack) but my knees are very emphatic about their dislike of the idea of standing all day - an anti-fatigue mat would help, as would a sit/stand setup, but trying to use both is a hassle because you have to both change your desk height and roll out / put away the mat every time you change positions. And it's a pretty substantial investment of both time and money in a style of working that I have little reason to think will work for me.

    The Altwork would let me recline while having the monitor directly in my line of site without hunching over, and transition from that into sitting with one button press, and from there get up and swing the desk out to the side over an anti-fatigue mat and work standing up. I am certainly not looking to spend $6000 on a desk - or $4000, the pre-order price - or $2400, my after-tax-deduction pre-order price - but it seems like a complete solution to an ergonomic dilemma I've had for over a decade now, and I don't see any cheaper alternative that does it.

    Is there something out there already that's cheaper and better? Great! Show me! Take my money!

  26. High intensity users need... by kmoser · · Score: 1

    Special High Intensity Technology