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In Ireland, All RC and Drones Over 1kg To Be Registered (suasnews.com)
New submitter charliehotel writes: The Irish Aviation Authority announced that it will have its drone registry up and running by December 21st this year. This registry will be the first of its kind in Europe, and the Irish Aviation Authority will require all RPA / drones that weigh over 1kg to be registered; this includes model aircraft. I hope that the U.S.'s gathering storm of regulation doesn't start quite that small.
According to this story at AvWeb, the US registry will require registration of all drones over 250 grams.
At least it will be free and simple, according to the story.
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>> Irish Aviation Authority announced that it will have its drone registry up and running by December 21st
In the US, this would take seven years and $15B to build. And then it still wouldn't work.
“The only thing that saves us from the bureaucracy is its inefficiency.”
How does it benefit you not to have regulations that prevent devices from buzzing about over your head? In my mind there should be no weight minimums. I simply do not want these things flying around without well enforced rules.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
I don't let my dog drive, license or no license.
the net effect however is that the proliferation of heacy dornes will be reduced even iff there are scofflaws. And that's the desired outcome.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Glad to hear they excluded planes below one kg. In some countries, making paper plane is illegal because airplane laws have no exclusions. You shold have license. Dot.
Which is why in many jurisdictions owners of unlicensed dogs are fined many times more when there animals are out of control than owners of those that are licensed. This idea that idiots can fly their drones wherever they want really needs to be nipped in the bud now. And, from the gist of the comments here, the punishments for violations should be extremely harsh if their attitude of entitlement to the skies is to be curtailed.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Maybe not now but when this law is revised. After that annual airworthiness testing, certification. Drone operators will be required to pay €200 to listen to some guy telling you not to fly a drone into a child walking down the street.
You'll be able to meet all these requirements by handing over a tidy sum of money to companies set up by friends of the politicians bringing in these drone laws. This is how Ireland works. Behind every law there is a backhander and a gravy train.
Actually, it is about having fun flying as well. Modern Phantom 3 devices can be flown FPV (First Person View), which opens up a whole new world compared to the old RC planes where you can only fly short distances. If flown safely in safe areas, there is little risk that these drones can cause. If any plane if flying below 400 feet over anywhere, they sure as heck better be extra cautious anyways, as there are all kinds of hazards there, of which the random drone is the least of their problems.
Also, there are people like me who use them more for the photographic and video opportunities. Not spying on people like some pervert. That is like saying we should register cameras cause some sickos use them to take spy pictures in bathrooms. That is the vast minority. Do you want to know what most of us do? Here is a great example and explain to me how I could ever catch this scenery any other way:
Drone Flight in Utah Desert
It is just like any hobby. There will be people who abuse it, and the vast majority of people who are just having fun. I am not that paranoid about people spying on me with drones to ban the entire hobby. The real point is registration will do nothing to stop it. People like myself already put their phone numbers on their planes so if lost, there is a chance they will come back to me. The people who are the problems will not do anything. More tax dollars to a solution to nothing.
Where I applaud the Irish for their effort (and whiskey and red hair), I'm not sure how this is really going to work.
1. Having a registry available by December 21st seems very aggressive.
2. The privacy concerns of those registering seems to be an unaddressed concern with the whole process.
3. I'm not aware of any penalties for not registering, or violating any of the IAA rules.
4. Who knows how much this will cost? Are there registration fees? Is it per aircraft or per operator or what?
5. Who's got the responsibility for enforcement? Do they have the resources to actually do enforcement?
This whole idea seems to be just a voluntary "Please register with us!" idea which is pretty much pointless. It won't force anybody to register, it won't force anybody to actually know or follow the existing rules, especially the idiots who insist on doing stupid things. What you really need is ENFORCEMENT, quick and harsh, for folks who insist on being stupid. A couple of test cases and the PR they would bring will do more to help the problem than all the rules and laws you can pass.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
When drones are criminalized, only criminals will have drones...
Therefore, open season , bitches!
*grin*
Building a drone, over 1KG, and in the USA, over 250g! is trivial... Requiring registration for people's toys is idiotic (what are they going to do, attach a sticker?! to what easily replaceable part?) and unwarranted (how many actual drones - excluding military - have been involved in actual accidents with aircraft? none).
If a 1kg drone falls on my head, it will likely kill me. I am very much interested in knowing who has these, where they are allowed to fly and what is the maintenance record.
Model rockets over 1.5kg have to get a specific wavier with location, time of flight, size, impulse and receive a specific waiver (and have a NOTAM filed) from the FAA every single time we fly. Suck it up, buttercup.
Model rockets that weigh over 1.5 kg (hopefully) go much further than the 400 vertical feet drones are limited to. And they go much faster. Yes, in those cases it is definitely appropriate for the rocketeers to tell other people using the airspace that something is going up very quickly. For the smaller drones, not so much.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Most people are not live firing their assualt rifles up and down the street in the their urban neighborhoods every weekend. No AR owners are looking at my daughter sunbathing in our atrium through their gunsights. No one sees weekly reports of AR being dropped from a height on passersby. There are traceable gun records for original shop sales, too.
There is not a single serious accident involving a drone. The one which you can see on youtube is a fake.
At the same time about a million and a half people die each year in traffic accidents. http://www.who.int/gho/road_sa... About 20 million wounded. These are the figures of the World War 3, and they continue to grow. And what we see - cars and motorcycles are getting even more overpowered and overweight. Streets and roads are overcrowded by cars.
At the same time delivery by drones could free roads and streets and save millions of lives.
What is the point of the registry?
Is it better for me if the person using a drone to spy on me mowing my lawn has a registered drone? Is my privacy being invaded more if it's not registered?
If you're going to say that we would be able to track down the person responsible if a drone is used to take down a plane you're lying. A drone used in such a manner would be homemade, unregistered, stolen or the registration markings would have been removed. The registration database would be completely useless.
The registration is just the government being control freaks and not happy that someone is able to do something without their express permission.
"Drones, Oooo scary. We need to do something, this is something, we need to do it".
"Grab them by the pussy" -- President of the United States of America
Drones are not limited technically to 400 feet. Many of the more advanced (but still reasonably affordable) drones can easily do 500+ feet without much effort. The 400 foot "limit" is FAA guidance that doesn't constitute legal advice - if you're being an idiot at 100 feet, the FAA can still prosecute you for reckless flying. (Including flying your drone into people)
You did not mention that dogs leave unhygienic substances on sidewalks. These substances play a role in spreading dangerous for humans parasites, which cost each of us 3 - 5 years of life time. At least UAVs are using clean electric power.
I was under the impression that "drone" is merely the pop-culture term for "R/C", as they were called up to about 5 years ago before the Hollywood Nightly News decided to re-term it.
All of the things that people are flying are RC. I believe a drone would be autonomous. I am not sure if such a thing exists, and if it does, it is probably only in the military.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
RC pilots were responsible. Planes and copters were safely flown in designated areas.
This legislation is only necessary because the day of the responsible RC pilot are now gone. Now we have irresponsible RC pilots (because they aren't drones, they are RC craft) who want to fly their toys around airports, in other people's yards, interfere with emergency operations, and any number of other intrusive and dangerous behaviors.
They believe that people in public (ie, their own backyard surrounded by a privacy fence) should have no privacy, but if you tell them they need to register their drone, then it is "But!, But! My PRIVACY!".
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
It's like paying a license for your dog; once you license it, they've got you every year.
Or registering a firearm, once they know you have one it makes it easy to confiscate them all later. And you get to pay for the priviledge.
(hopefully people recognize hyperbole when they see it)
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that sounds equivalent to never registering it at all.
you could go to a junk yard and buy a scrap car and drive it around without registering it. until you're caught doing so.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
It costs about $60 to turn any rc plane (car or boat) into an autonomous vehicle. Basically an arduino and a $2.25 ebay gyro/magnetometer board and free open source software.
"Drone" is an ambiguous term. Some people might mean "any R/C aircraft". When I think of it, I think of the more-sophisticated varieties of multi-rotor copters (quad-, hexa-, and octo- copters) with cameras, either supporting recorded video an programmed, GPS-controlled, autonomous flight or first-person view video, giving the operator/pilot a real-time stream from the perspective of the vehicle. A non-autonomous vehicle, operated purely by line-of-sight, and without recording capabilities says "not a drone" to me.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Not nearly as much as birds
I'd rather let my own behavior distinguish me from the "bad guys", just as I do in all the other parts of my life. If I'm not doing anything wrong, then there's no reason to force me to register anywhere.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
We had 2000' of string and flew it once in a dust storm.
An RC Helicopter is not a drone. But thanks for your contribution...
...people are safe from being murdered by a US drone in Ireland?
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Birds, at least wild life ones, live in forests, at sea cliffs, etc., i.e. where animals should live. But dogs walk exactly where humans do. Basically we are returning to early middle ages when the streets were used as sewer ditches. Certainly it caused epidemics. Nowadays there are antibiotics, but they will protect us not for long.