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Anonymous Vows Revenge For ISIS Paris Attacks

Posted by timothy on from the back-and-forth-again dept.

An anonymous reader writes: As usual, Anonymous members are quicker to respond to threats than investigators and have announced #OpParis as revenge for the Paris attacks. Their action is similar to #OpISIS from this spring, launched after the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Previously Anonymous ousted thousands of ISIS Twitter accounts in #OpISIS. In a more conventional response, the government of France has been bombarding ISIS positions in Syria with airstrikes, and hunting for suspect Salah Abdeslam in connection with Friday's killings.

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  1. Quicker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As usual, Anonymous members are quicker to respond to threats than investigators

    That's because they don't have any requirement to perform due diligence or, well, investigate anything. Investigators do. Anonymous are more like instigators.

    1. Re:Quicker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why does anyone require 'due diligence' and fact-checking against insane violent assholes like these Sunni extremist fuckstains that laughingly call themselves the 'Islamic State'

      Well, for a start, to make sure that's who's actually responsible. (Not saying they're not - or that they don't deserve action anyway, but if it weren't them, then another guilty party could be getting away with no action due to a lack of due diligence)

    2. Re:Quicker by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why does anyone require 'due diligence' and fact-checking against insane violent assholes like these Sunni extremist fuckstains that laughingly call themselves the 'Islamic State' (as if they have the skillset or civilized restraint to actually run a country peacefully)?

      Mainly so you don't accidentally kill the neighbor of the insane extremist, when the neighbor is actually a rather nice guy.

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    3. Re:Quicker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't post angry, that's a bad idea. You may also want to consider other viewpoints than "exterminate them down to the last motherfucking one of them". Perhaps a quote from 'A man for all seasons' may help:

      Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

      Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

      Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

      Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

      ===

      Becomie a vigilante force to end another vigilante force and you have lost the battle, plain and simple. You are no better than them.

    4. Re:Quicker by RDW · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why does anyone require 'due diligence' and fact-checking against insane violent assholes

      This is why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    5. Re:Quicker by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why does anyone require 'due diligence' and fact-checking against insane violent assholes like these Sunni extremist fuckstains that laughingly call themselves the 'Islamic State'

      The due diligence isn't for checking whether ISIS is responsible, or a worthy target. The due diligence is for making sure that the people you're attacking are actually ISIS.

      We've seen some pretty high-profile examples of Anonymous having some, shall we say, targeting mishaps in the past. And if you need a citation for that, you don't know enough about Anonymous to participate in this conversation.

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    6. Re:Quicker by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Informative

      Radical Muslim: someone who wants to cut off your head
      Moderate Muslim: someone who Radical Muslims want to cut the head off of

      FTFY. Not-so-fun fact: If you are killed by an Islamist terrorist, you are eight times more likely to be Muslim than non-Muslim.

      START TRYING TO DRAG YOUR DEATH CULT INTO THE 21ST CENTURY

      Maybe you could start by opening your home to a Syrian refugee. People fleeing the "death cult" are precisely the sort of people who could do with your help.

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    7. Re:Quicker by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sir Thomas More was nothing but a goddamn SJW, with all his politically correct "laws".

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    8. Re:Quicker by PapayaSF · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Maybe you could start by opening your home to a Syrian refugee. People fleeing the "death cult" are precisely the sort of people who could do with your help.

      That's very idealistic and glib, except that one survey has shown that 13% of Syrian refugees support ISIS. Would you take a 1 in 8 chance that your houseguest wants to kill you? And even the ones who aren't terror-supporters now are still Muslims (mostly), which means they carry the same memetic infection that produced ISIS (and all the other Islamic radical groups). There's a good chance that some of their kids and grandkids will be radicals, as France has learned: many of their "home-grown" radical Islamists are from Algerian families that came to France generations ago.

      In short, just because they are refugees doesn't necessarily make them good people.

      Sorry, but you and much of the West are being played for suckers. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states have plenty of money and room for their co-religionists. They're all part of the ummah, right? But they don't want a bunch of poor and semi-skilled people with a heavy sprinkling of terror-supporters. Why burden their welfare rolls and strain their societies? Better to fob off the refugees on Europe (and the US), where they can spread Islam and soak up Western welfare money. It is a core Muslim belief that the entire Earth will one day be Muslim. The Muslim world is taking advantage of the Syrian war to spread Islam. We are fools to go along with it.

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    9. Re:Quicker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You may also want to consider other viewpoints than "exterminate them down to the last motherfucking one of them".

      Tell you what: If they're kicking in your door to drag you out into the street and cut off your gods-be-damned head, let's see how well quoting shit like that works for you, OK? It's really easy for someone like you, who no doubt is sitting nice and safe in your house, probably in a 1st-world country like the U.S., to spout shit like that, when halfway across the world right now what I desscribed above is actually happening: someone is getting their door kicked in by some asshole 'islamic state' fighter who doesn't give a rat's ass about another human life, and they're going to drag the men out into the street and fucking kill them, and take the women and children and fucking enslave them, because they can. I got news for you, friend: There is no reasoning with these gods-be-damned animals, if there was then that's what would be happening, and if you can't see that then you need to wake the fuck up and get your head out of the gods-be-damned sand! By their own actions they have made it amply clear that the only way to deal with them is to kill them all, and if you continue to deny that then you're just fooling yourself. There is no magical speech you can give that is going to 'change hearts and minds' of ISIS and make them stop cutting off people's heads; they want to burn the world down to the ground and remake it in their own fucked-up twisted version of Islam, and they will kill everyone and anyone who gets in their way. I'm sorry, it sucks, it's horrifying, it's anti-civilization, it's anti-human, it's anti-life even, they are like the Berzerkers of Fred Saberhagen's science fiction novels, they want one thing and one thing only and there is no reasoning with them about it. You can even sit there and try to tell me "it's our fault we created them" and it doesn't fucking matter, we either kill them or they will kill everyone and everything you love, eventually. It's too late for talk. It's time for bombs and bullets, and that's the only way this gods-be-damned bullshit is going to end. I suggest you make your peace with that and move on with your life as best you can.

      To the guy who said this:

      The Koran instructs that all Muslims must move to live under a Caliphate if there is one. ISIS has now created one. In order to be a proper Muslim who follows their own holy book, they gotta support the Caliphate and they gotta support ISIS. The Koran is also very clear about what to do to Muslims who don't do that.

      The Quran, just like the Bible, is a very, very old book, written by just another human, and like the Bible, it's contents are incredibly out-of-date and not particularly relevant to living in the modern world. Just like fundamentalist Christians, who try to live strictly according to the Bible with no compromises, you're going to run into all sorts of trouble trying to live strictly according to the Quran. Of course this has little to nothing to do with these Sunni extremists who refer to themselves as the 'islamic state'; just like so many so-called Christian preachers do, they're using their own strict interpretation of the Quran as an excuse to be violent assholes, destroy people they don't want around, seize power and land, and generally get away with whatever animalistic violent bullshit they want to get away with. Honestly, if there was such a being as 'Allah', I'd hope he/she/it would erase these fuckers from the planet, for daring to commit such atrocities. Regardless any 'reasons' these violent assholes claim to have are irrelevant; they must be exterminated regardless, because they endanger and victimize the populations of entire countries in their bloodthirsty quest for power. 'No quarter asked or given' should be the gist of any Rules of Engagement with regards to them, since that's abou

    10. Re:Quicker by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Interesting

      [...] except that one survey has shown that 13% of Syrian refugees support ISIS. Would you take a 1 in 8 chance that your houseguest wants to kill you?

      No, it didn't.

      The question was "In general, do you have a postitive or negative view of ISIL?" 4% of Syrian refugees answered "positive", and 9% said "positive to some extent". That is not the same as 13% expressing "support" for ISIS.

      Moreover:

      Further seeking to understand respondents’ views of ISIL, the survey included questions which asked participants to identify the factors that contributed the most to the group’s popularity amongst, and influence on, its supporters. Respondents were asked to consider such arguments regardless of whether or not they themselves accepted their validity. When asked to identify such reasons and factors, 15% of respondents cited ISIL’s “military achievements”, with the highest proportions of those citing this factor coming from Palestine, Egypt, Jordan and amongst the Syrian refugee population.

      The survey didn't expand on "military achievements", but it wouldn't surprise me if the most common reason for a Syrian refugee holding a positive (or mildly positive) view of ISIS is that nobody else is trying to oust the Ba'athist regime.

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      sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
  2. Re:Well, at least they're hard to retaliate agains by tsotha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IS will ignore Anonymous, military, cops, and intelligence services in favor of unsuspecting theatergoers and people out for an evening at a cafe. Military and cops shoot back, and Anonymous is simply impotent against an organization like IS.

  3. Uh-oh, this is not good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those ISIS guys better watch now! Anonymous will be sending a barrage of pizzas to them that they didn't even order, and probably posting some dick pics on the their websites!

  4. Re:if they really want revenge by kheldan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's a rather simplistic viewpoint you have there. These Sunni extremists who call themselves 'Islamic State' are using social media on the Internet as a major component in their propaganda machine, and also using it to recruit useful idiots to their cause, often in a very literal sense. Some group that has little to no regard for the legality of their actions (unlike actual law enforcement and government military) that can hack their way into their Facebook, Twitter, and other Internet assets and expose the operators behind them (and maybe their physical location) would be extremely disruptive to their operations on that front. Meanwhile 'signing up for the military' really won't do shit except give these assholes more targets to shoot at. Personally I send all my best to this particular faction of Anonymous, and wish them good hunting and much success in disrupting these assholes as much as possible.

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  5. Re:Well, at least they're hard to retaliate agains by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IS will ignore Anonymous, military, cops, and intelligence services in favor of unsuspecting theatergoers and people out for an evening at a cafe. Military and cops shoot back, and Anonymous is simply impotent against an organization like IS.

    That depends on whether Anonymous plans do useless stuff like tear down ISIS websites or something useful like hack the PCs of ISIS leaders and steal their financial records or details of their oil smuggling operation which would be most useful to the military and the cops even if it would probably embarrass Turkish president Erdoan and his AKP party pretty severely but then they have it coming.

  6. The best approach for Anonymous by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anonymous could do the most good by hacking into and diverting - or simply revealing, if nothing else is possible - the finances of ISIS. Is there any hackable digital money stream involved, or is at all greasy piles of cash?

  7. A kind of "Nous sommes des Inconnus" .. by niks42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    IS is one of the largest threats to our way of life in the west, but we are thinking too small when we think of ways to combat it. They believe they are on a mission from God, bringing about the final reckoning between good and evil - the Apocalypse. We think of them as trouble-makers that need to be sorted out as painlessly as possible, a short-term problem that can be solved with conventional weaponry, with relatively small losses. They aren't.

    How we respond to them is difficult to work out. Maybe the Anon approach of hacking and defacing their web sites - cutting off the oxygen of publicity - would be a Good Idea. It may be better than trying to pick the right targets out of the desert with smart bombs and drones. It might be better than turning the entire region into green, glowing glass.

  8. Dear Anonymous... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One thing you can do is screw with their social media, make it look as if ISIS hates Allah and Mohammed, not in big ways that are obvious, but smaller that makes recruits stand back and second guess. Undermine their ability to recruit anyone and recruit money and they will crumble faster than 10,000 bombs can hurt them.

    Sever their income, destroy their ability to recruit and communicate. and please do it decently instead of carpet bombing that gets a lot of innocents as well. redirect their bank accounts to supporting Israel or other groups they hate.

    Reveal all their financial supporters, and feel free to drain their accounts as well.

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