After Paris, ISIS Moves Propaganda Machine To Darknet (csoonline.com)

itwbennett writes: Over the weekend, researcher Scot Terban came across the new website of Al-Hayat Media Center, the media division of Daesh (aka ISIS/ISIL), in a post on Shamikh forum (a known jihadi bulletin board), 'someone had posted the new address and instructions for reaching it,' writes CSO's Steve Ragan. The website hosts the usual anti-Western iconography, as well as songs (Nasheeds) and poems for mujahids in various locations. Terban has mirrored the website and its files; he says he plans to publish more details in the coming days. 'Over the years, there have been several claims made that Daesh had propaganda and recruitment hubs on the Darknet, but no one has ever published proof of those claims or explored how the propaganda machine operates in public,' says Ragan.

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[Anonymous Coward]

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darknet?

[i_ate_god]

on "the darknet"?

What is the "darknet"? tor sites? freenet sites? or is darknet an actual service/thing?

Re:darknet?

[OverlordQ]

isn't clear FTFA, but follow links seems to point to Tor hidden services.

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's the other side of the internet.

You know the internet, the stuff you can see? Websites, google, Perez Hilton, reddit? That's the side of the internet that is facing us at all times.

The other side is facing away at all times and is permanently in shadow.

Re: darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

The durkanet

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

on "the darknet"?

What is the "darknet"? tor sites? freenet sites? or is darknet an actual service/thing?

Hey, it sounds more mysterious and cool if they don't say it!

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's the same as the Deep Web. Haven't you seen CSI Cyber?

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

I think it's just a term used by morons that don't know how the Internet works.

It could mean any or all of the following:
- Sites that aren't Facebook, Twitter, Google, or YouTube, and therefore, aren't as visible.
- Sites that don't get indexed on Google and therefore aren't as visible.
- Sites that don't have a DNS name and therefore aren't as visible.
- Geo-shitties sites with a black background. It's DARK on the DARKnet. Duh.

So basically, sites that aren't easily found by the masses. That's "the darknet" or "the dark web" or whatever some dumbass wants to call it.

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't know, but I wish dark.net was still available for registration.

Re: darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, durka durka durka.

Re:darknet?

[Threni]

Internet or the internet? There's only one, so Internet. "I'm going on internet" "Well, i'm doing down pub with t'whippets"

Re: darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

In soviet russia, durak you!

Re: darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

You forgot "sites that dont have a facebook share button and therefore cant be shared by the masses".

Re:darknet?

[Killall -9 Bash]

Wrong. Internets. Plural. It's a collective of many networks.

Re:darknet?

[Stephen Chadfield]

The other side is facing away at all times and is permanently in shadow.

Usenet?

Re:darknet?

[MouseTheLuckyDog]

Maybe they have, but were laughing to hard to pay attention.

Re:darknet?

[cyberzephyr]

on "the darknet"?

What is the "darknet"? tor sites? freenet sites? or is darknet an actual service/thing?

This is a joke right? You folks are on /. and don't know what the Darknet is? I must have gone to the wrong Slashdot.

Re:darknet?

[ChunderDownunder]

A mythical netherworld inhabited by pirates, assassins, pederasts, drug barons, counterfeiters, political subversives, money launderers and now terrorists that 99% of slashdotters would be fearful of stumbling upon for fear of being placed on an FBI watchlist?

Re:darknet?

[Mashiki]

Nah they're using Gopher, and searching using ARCHIE.

Re:darknet?

[ls671]

Hi,
Click Ctrl riight-shift alt D on your keyboard.

A popup will appear asking you to confirm that you want to enter the dark-net.

Click OK. You are now on the darknet. It is like a second kind of Internet. This functionality is not publicized to much and more or less kept secret to protect the children.

P.S. You need recent browser and OS versions in order to access it since the TCP stack had to be adapted for the darknet. It uses a special bit in the TCP header.

Re: darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

I thought darknets are anonymous overlay networks, which work over the internet, like I2P (invisible internet project)
But after reading this thread i doubtâ¦

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

The "darknet" is what journalists and non-tech people say when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, because they heard it used on House of Cards and they think it's a thing we in the tech world actually say or use (or that it even exists).

"I found it on the darknet; it isn't listed in google and I had to use an IP address lol!"

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's 2 spooky 4 me.

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

A mythical netherworld inhabited by pirates, assassins, pederasts, drug barons, counterfeiters, political subversives, money launderers and now terrorists that 99% of slashdotters would be fearful of stumbling upon for fear of being placed on an FBI watchlist?

So US Congress and UK Parliament then?

Re:darknet?

[Anonymous Coward]

no, that's the regular internet

Re:darknet?

[Agripa]

Click OK. You are now on the darknet. It is like a second kind of Internet. This functionality is not publicized to much and more or less kept secret to protect the children.

So like IPv6?

This is really wierd

[invictusvoyd]

This whole ISIL thing seems to come out of a "mad max" movie . Is this all manufactured? . This is how Hollywood would make an expensive bad movie .

Re:This is really wierd

[DomNF15]

I am certain the murdered people's family and friends in Paris would disagree with your assessment as "manufactured". Are some facts being obscured/convoluted? Possibly, but the threat, in whatever form the media gives it, seems quite real.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah because Hollywood would never make a movie based on real events... oh wait they do all the time. GTFO troll.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

ISIS has and continues to kill more muslims than any other group of people on a DAILY BASIS and not a single news rag covers it until some white folks get shot.

Re:This is really wierd

[halivar]

You don't read the news, then.

Re:This is really wierd

[LWATCDR]

So what?
Really what does that have to do with is it real or manufactured?
BTW I see lots of news all the time about all the people being killed in Iraq and Syria so I really do not know what you mean by no one cares.

Re:This is really wierd

[mister_playboy]

That's nothing more than a limitation of your own information bubble.

You sound like a SJW. Al Jazeera covers the topic of Muslims killing Musilms in great detail and is arguably more left in its perspectives than Mother Jones.

Check it out, maybe you will learn something.

Re:This is really wierd

[Threni]

Dude, a million+ people have died in Iraq alone as a result of Bush's invasion. All the key isis people are ex-iraqis, recruiting younger, dimmer but more excitable people from everywhere else. That's what's manufactured this situation. Not a few websites. Watch "four lions" - the fuckers are everywhere.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Of course. It's us vs them. They hate our Western, Judeo-Christian way of life. They want a one-world caliphate dominated by islam (I will not capitalize the word out of disrepect). islam is not just a religion; it's a complete system: religion is one aspect, there is also politics, civil governance, you name it. These asshats want the world under this system. Thankfully there are several sects and they all hate each other. Iran is a bulwark in the region against these people, although they are far from innocent. Notice these asshats won't life a finger to Iran? They know what would happen should they try.

Were I the president, I would fire bomb them for weeks on end with MOABs and napalm. If the bombs don't get you, lack of oxygen will. Enough playing games with these people. They want us dead. So, yes, when white Europeans die, it's a big deal. These people are roaches, so when one or more of them dies, it's not a big deal at all. They want to kill us and take over our way of life. Do you think for a second the migrants, 90% of whom are military-aged men is a joke? I've got family in Europe in several places, and they are considering moving because things are not what they should be. These men rape and kill everywhere they go. Sweden had, until islamic refugees, one of the lowest rape and crime instances in the EU. Now? Sweden and much of the EU will become like Detroit, just with different kinds of "gang bangers".

Re:This is really wierd

[aaaaaaargh!]

Do you have any citation or source for that? As of today, iraqbodycount.org reports 224,000 deaths, so this makes me curious from where you've got this "million+" figure.

Re:This is really wierd

[GLMDesigns]

Muslims are a race? There aren't white people in Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan?

The problem is two-fold. Fascist fanatics who will kill others who don't agree with them and simping fools who think that if they're nice and quiet and respectful and kind - then they will be met with the same kindness.

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly;
you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival.
There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
Winston Churchill

Re:This is really wierd

[NewtonsLaw]

Sorry but the OP is correct... this situation *has* been manufactured by the USA's long-standing practice of pissing in other people's pools.

If the USA (and other Western nations) just kept their noses out of other country's politics then there wouldn't be this rapidly growing anti-western sentiment within the Middle East.

Hell... the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.

The USA has almost certainly killed more innocent men, women and children (conveniently categorised as "collateral damage") through their drone strikes than daesh has ever beheaded, shot or blown up.

The USA regularly executes its own citizens (hello Texas???) who the feel have violated their rules (rape/murder) -- yet complain so loudly when other cultures, religions or countries do the same.

Message to the US government: do not expect *anyone* to be pleased if you piss in their pool. Do not act surprised when those people decide to come piss in your pool.

I believe that what daesh and Al Quaeda have done is totally barbaric -- but then again, the same can be said for those Western nations who have engaged in acts of terrorism and murder against other nations.

Let he who is without sin ... as they say.

Why doesn't everyone just grow up and start acting like adults for a change????

Re:This is really wierd

[fustakrakich]

I am certain the murdered people's family and friends in Paris would disagree with your assessment as "manufactured".

Make no doubt, it was murder for hire. So yes, in a way, it is "manufactured". People have to get paid. Anybody who carries on with this religious bullshit is an idiot.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.

Indeed. So the fact that he was a butcher and a tyrant isn't enough to justify removing him from power?
Typical bloody pacifist. Do nothing, just because you're too lazy to step up and do *something*. Right.

Re:This is really wierd

[EmeraldBot]

Of course. It's us vs them. They hate our Western, Judeo-Christian way of life. They want a one-world caliphate dominated by islam (I will not capitalize the word out of disrepect). islam is not just a religion; it's a complete system: religion is one aspect, there is also politics, civil governance, you name it. These asshats want the world under this system. Thankfully there are several sects and they all hate each other. Iran is a bulwark in the region against these people, although they are far from innocent. Notice these asshats won't life a finger to Iran? They know what would happen should they try.

Were I the president, I would fire bomb them for weeks on end with MOABs and napalm. If the bombs don't get you, lack of oxygen will. Enough playing games with these people. They want us dead. So, yes, when white Europeans die, it's a big deal. These people are roaches, so when one or more of them dies, it's not a big deal at all. They want to kill us and take over our way of life. Do you think for a second the migrants, 90% of whom are military-aged men is a joke? I've got family in Europe in several places, and they are considering moving because things are not what they should be. These men rape and kill everywhere they go. Sweden had, until islamic refugees, one of the lowest rape and crime instances in the EU. Now? Sweden and much of the EU will become like Detroit, just with different kinds of "gang bangers".

From their perspective, you want to kill and murder them all too, and apparently are willing to use highly explosive and vuiolent means to do so. Furthermore, you'd be willing not only to kill the terrorists, but every single living thing in all of those countries.

I despise ISIS with a burning passion for what they've done, but when other westerners get on a high horse about them "murdering us" and how we must "kill them all", you really don't see the irony that they're in the exact same position? That's not even starting with the fact most muslims are normal people too, outside of the reach of ISIS. It's not like we can quit now, but it's absurd to see how eager you are not only to repeat the events of 9/11 and worsen the situation even further, but about how you're just as violent and psychopathic as the terrorists you condem.

Re: This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

They were killing each other prior to then. Prior to Europeans, they were killing each other. Nothing changed when Europeans came onscene. Just the names of the players. And "the cause". But the same social structure to unite people, family, friends, and locality, are coopted to create a illwill to others. just because they are outsiders. Your not my"" therefore you shall die.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

The big issue with dealing with ISIS is that governments are treating ISIS like Al Queda, when they are completely different. Al Quada is closer to an evil corporation than what ISIS is.

ISIS is an end-times cult prodding the west to attack so Armageddon can start and they can move into Israel which will bring the second coming of Jesus. Jesus is the second most important prophet in Islam.

They put themselves ahead of all governments, so they can't even be negotiated down into sanity. Governments could negotiate release of Al Queda prisoners, it is impossible to do that with ISIS.

Oh, and they want to destroy Saudi Arabia for believing in a slightly different Islam.

Fun fact: You could move to Syria, bow to them and pay some sort of fee and they will let you live in peace. Since they are very liberal on social things, you could get free food, dental, medical, etc.

They are terrorists only in the sense that they are trying to pick a fight.

They are scary as fuck, but the way they have been handled so far won't work. They want the end of the world.

http://www.theatlantic.com/fea...

Re:This is really wierd

[AK Marc]

The ISIS links are manufactured. The terrorists were French citizens before ISIS started. Every stubbed toe will be ISIS. ISIS wants it to make them appear powerful and the "other side" wants the same thing because the stronger ISIS looks, the easier it is to get funding to bomb the Middle East.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

OP here. Not even...

Being someone who is fond of history and reads much of it, especially martial history, WWII was won largely via bombing people into submission. No one batted an eye when the US and Britain leveled much of Germany via bombing her cities -- filled, as they were, with "innocents". Ditto Japan and others.

Our way of life is vastly superior to theirs in every way imaginable. Ask any homosexual if they desire a holiday in say, Dubai? Ask a single woman if she would risk traveling alone to even "safe" places like Dubai. No? I wonder why. Arabs are warmongers. Full stop. islam is not a religion of peace. Full stop. It's a political systems of governance that involves religion as key tenets.

I despise these people as you do, but the difference is I am willing to kill them and those harbouring them to put an end to it. We can kill these people using technology. Sure, we not get them all, but we can start by disallowing islamic refugees. This is a farce. My family members in the EU are some of them police, and they say the crime rate is almost all committed by muslim men. They rape, steal, kill, and the authorities do NOTHING for fear of politically correct backlash.

Did you know these islamic bastards have forced, even though they are a minority, schools in the UK to not serve ANY pork products, even for the English children who were BORN IN THE UK. Honestly, these roaches are changing the face of my beloved Europe in the name of their paedophile prophet.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

"These people are roaches, so when one or more of them dies, it's not a big deal at all."

This is where I knew you were a troll.

Re:This is really wierd

[EmeraldBot]

Sorry but the OP is correct... this situation *has* been manufactured by the USA's long-standing practice of pissing in other people's pools.

If the USA (and other Western nations) just kept their noses out of other country's politics then there wouldn't be this rapidly growing anti-western sentiment within the Middle East.

Hell... the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.

The USA has almost certainly killed more innocent men, women and children (conveniently categorised as "collateral damage") through their drone strikes than daesh has ever beheaded, shot or blown up.

The USA regularly executes its own citizens (hello Texas???) who the feel have violated their rules (rape/murder) -- yet complain so loudly when other cultures, religions or countries do the same.

Message to the US government: do not expect *anyone* to be pleased if you piss in their pool. Do not act surprised when those people decide to come piss in your pool.

I believe that what daesh and Al Quaeda have done is totally barbaric -- but then again, the same can be said for those Western nations who have engaged in acts of terrorism and murder against other nations.

Let he who is without sin ... as they say.

Why doesn't everyone just grow up and start acting like adults for a change????

Comparing Texas and ISIS really isn't fair. One executes for capital crimes after a lengthy trial and a 10+ year waiting list (ehich you could argue is more merciful than life in prison), and the other shoots anybody for any reason at any time. One blows up innocent civillains, the other pays for infastructure and rebuilds destroyed towns. As much noise as we like to make about it, America's actions in the war are far more civillized than ISIS' ever has been.

That being said, I will give you credit that this whole thing started with the US, that is true. And as a result of Paris, there is a lot of racism directed at muslims the last couple days, or at least it suddenly feels like so. Nobody yet realizes that calling for the mass execution of muslims because they are evil and rape and murder sounds stunningly like Nazi rhetoric against the Jewish (just as untrue), and worse, it appears as though now it's culturally acceptable. Why people can't behave as old as they are and stop playing a global game of comparing dick sizes I'll never know.

Re:This is really wierd

[kheldan]

Ummm.. are you really that sheltered, or are you trying to troll/piss off as many people as possible? Here's a clue for you: It's not being faked, it's not a publicity stunt, people got fucking killed, and more and more are getting killed every gods-be-damned day.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Why would you expect otherwise? It is natural for humans to care about their own contemporaries more than a bunch of foreigners in far-away lands. Maybe it isn't as noble and altruistic as you seem to think humans are obligated to be.....but it is *natural*.

The deaths of upper-class Europeans demonstrates to a whole host of upper-class people worldwide that the threat is a lot closer than they think. So, the news has incentive to cover it (people will watch because they care), and people now have more impetus to get up and do something about it.

This is just how humans work. It shouldn't be surprising at all.

Re: This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

No. It is not enough. Particularly as the US set him up to be what he was in the first place. Above all he was "modern" and secular. Vicious, nasty, a tyrant, all yes, yes, yes. Nevertheless less he kept a lid on the violence and was moving it towards a modern democratic state. You, cannot seriously presume that Iraq now has less violence and happier people after two illegal invasions by the US? Yes, Saddam was a scrap. The US picking at that scab has helped no one and caused death and misery for millions.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Citation Please?

Re:This is really wierd

[BarbaraHudson]

the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.

Indeed. So the fact that he was a butcher and a tyrant isn't enough to justify removing him from power? Typical bloody pacifist. Do nothing, just because you're too lazy to step up and do *something*. Right.

Obviously it isn't enough to invade Saudi Arabia, another sharia law country that has a long list of human rights violations.

Re:This is really wierd

[gijoel]

ISIL is weak

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

You must realize the problem really is just the comparitively (to all of Islam) extremely miniscule number of terrorists, militant/violent religious factions. The tyranny of centralized wealth and power in a traditionally sexist culture is nothing you can pin on a religion, it always happens with or without religious influence. Perhaps we can get the murderers first, then move on to fixing the menu, because I'm no expert, but I doubt there is a requirement or right to eat pork or have pork offered on menus for publicly funded kitchens in the UK or anywhere. Making generalized assumptions about a massive population based on such a tiny sample will probably lead to inferior judgement. Everyone knows that English children have bad teeth requring softer food than pork. Obviously, Muslims care far more about the teeth of those poor UK children than you do. But the reality is the tiny but effective minority political movement mounted to alter the menu rules for school children has no bearing on the rest of the world, Islam included. There are two real problems that I see, extreme intolerance leading to violence by an extremely tiny fraction of a very large population on the one hand, and the uncanny ability of voices in a crowd to incite action from bigotry utilizing common fallacy.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

He was a butcher and a tyrant, but at least he kept the crazies down. Seems that those two qualities are necessary for keeping "stability" in a ME country.

Also, that Saddam was about to start selling oil for Euro had nothing to do with the US invasion.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, come on. The islamic armies from the middle east have had a hard-on for invading Europe for 1400 years. Really, what is happening now, including the "refugees" all flooding into Europe, is just another page in the bloody history of islam attempting to dominate Europe.

Re:This is really wierd

[cyberchondriac]

That's a lie, to be blunt. It's news everyday. But it's also in their own backyard. Paris is not.

Re:This is really wierd

[cold fjord]

Iraq wasn't a Sharia law country. The scale of abuses aren't even close to comparable. Iraq has hundreds of mass graves. Saddam used nerve gas on the villages of Iraqi Kurds, and engaged in other forms of mass slaughter against others. There were as many as 2,000,000 Iraqis that died under Saddams regime as a result of mass murder, war, and all manner of abuse. Saudi Arabia is nothing like that.

Re: This is really wierd

[cold fjord]

You are mistaken on many points. Saddam was not put into power by the US. Saddam didn't keep a lid on violence, he inflicted it on his population and engaged in wars of aggression against his neighbors and attacked others. Saddam funded terrorism. The mortality rate in Iraq from state violence and terrorism is still probably lower than Saddam's long term average. It could have been far lower if progressives hadn't pushed so hard to get stabilizing influences out of Iraq.

Re:This is really wierd

[mcrbids]

Please call them by their proper name: Daesh. Calling them the "Islamic State" of anything grants credibility to a minute, small fraction of the population.

Re:This is really wierd

[AK Marc]

Yes, and the US government wants them strong. It's better for the Military Industrial Complex if we have 10 perpetual wars at all times.

Re:This is really wierd

[AK Marc]

Fear of the name increases the fear of the thing itself. ISIL, ISIS, Daesh. I don't care, and I'll use the word that's most likely to be recognized, not the one that is misunderstood and used to drive a political agenda. I leave that linguistic gymnastics to the Republicans.

Re: This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Big difference: we're Westerners. If you're not on the side of the West, give up immediately your computer and any device that is the product of Western science and culture, and join your beloved shit barbarians. They do not, have not and will not contribute anything to civilization. Destroying them is not murder or even war: just pest control.

Re:This is really wierd

[Jack Griffin]

Saddam was also weak, but the truth is always the first casualty of war.

Re:This is really wierd

[Yomers]

Yes, and do not forget - Saddam had a HUGE stockpiles of WMD hidden so well that those are still not found! And it's universally known that he preferred Christian Babies to cereals for breakfast! And Iraqi Kurds - very good point, I bet 2,000,000 is a gross underestimation, 2,000,000 killed by Saddam personally every year is more like it! I bet Kurds sing praises for US every day - they are so much safer now, after when oppressive Saddam is gone! ISIS threats their woman so much kinder.

Re: This is really wierd

[dave420]

You have no idea. It shouldn't really be a surprise, but every time you open your mouth (keyboard?) and let everyone know you have no idea it still stuns - surely someone would know that they are exposing their ignorance for all to see.

Your understanding of Iraq and Saddam Hussein would be laughable, were the topic not so brutal.

Re:This is really wierd

[Tom]

most muslims are normal people too, outside of the reach of ISIS

That is true, but an alarming number of them support Sharia law, which is basically just the slightly-more-friendly-coloured version of ISIS.

Yes, most muslims are interested in their family, children and business. At the same time, their definition of what that means differ radically from ours, proved by crazy shit like "honour killings" (if you're living under a rock: Murdering your daughter because she's dating a non-muslim or something like that which "stains the family honour").

And let's not forget that Islam is the one religion that even Ghandi could not convince to peacefully co-exist with everyone else in India, hence the muslim-majority region of India split off as Pakistan.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Cry me a river. Some of us simply recognize that this as a war that has already begun, while others like you think islamists and proto-islamists can somehow be reasoned with. They've got their book, to them it's the word of God, no discussion. We've tried rationality and diplomacy with these asshats for decades by now, enough is enough.

Yeah, we're becoming murderous and violent. It's a natural progression from being normal, then annoyed, then miffed, then bothered, then angered and then pissed off for so long. We've poured countless resources into the black hole of islam for so long, hoping that they'd find a way to co-exist, perhaps reforming their religion so it isn't so poisonous towards other faiths, but no. They insist that they are somehow heirs to the earth, übermensch, and better than any non-muslim kafir; well I say it's time for them to prove it, either through reconciliating their religion with the existence of other religions (not gonna happen) or taking off the gloves and show their colors. There's an absolutely huge amount of "moderate" muslims in Europe who remain passive in the face of ISIS' aggression, just sitting on their ass and apologizing if a camera happen to point their way. They do nothing, they don't take on the extremists, they don't challenge them. Rather, it's the other way around; if a moderate makes a peep the extremists slam the Koran in their face and either shut them up (because "word of God") or bring them over to their cause (again, because "word of God").

Re:This is really wierd

[Dog-Cow]

Why doesn't everyone just grow up and start acting like adults for a change????

This is the most stupid sentiment to ever grace the Internet. Adults have been doing this to each other for all of recorded history, and almost certainly before then. To suggest that these are not grown-ups is just sheer stupidity and completely ignoring the real problems and reasons people act this way.

Outside of the occasional bully, I have never met a child who acted the way you suggest these grown-ups are acting.

Re:This is really wierd

[mangobrain]

And as a result of Paris, there is a lot of racism directed at muslims the last couple days, or at least it suddenly feels like so. Nobody yet realizes that calling for the mass execution of muslims because they are evil and rape and murder sounds stunningly like Nazi rhetoric against the Jewish (just as untrue), and worse, it appears as though now it's culturally acceptable.

I have noticed the same thing. Whilst it does not appear to be universally acceptable, unfortunately it seems to me that it is the viewpoint of those who are most outspoken, particularly on social media, which turns it into an echo chamber. How do we combat this without simply getting into an argument with such people? There is no evidence that trying to reason with these people via the Internet achieves anything - in fact, there are countless forum posts and article comment sections which point to the exact opposite; arguing with anyone with such vehement beliefs in an environment without tone of voice, body language, and face-to-face contact only degrades into name-calling.

How do we *effectively* communicate that we do not wish such a thing to become culturally acceptable? Is it even possible, when mass media is intent on only ever reporting bad things?

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Lol. Another drunk-with-PC-speak apologist.

You should learn a thing or two about islam.

People don't care, because they realize islam is dangerous to everybody else. Who cares if a snake gets killed by another snake?

Here is Dr. Bill Warner explaining that these attacks are nothing more than a continuation of the history of islam that started in the beginning and continues today.:

Youtube Link to Lecture

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

From their perspective, you want to kill and murder them all too, and apparently are willing to use highly explosive and vuiolent means to do so. Furthermore, you'd be willing not only to kill the terrorists, but every single living thing in all of those countries.

The only real problem with this is the "us" haven't been able to do it.

Re:This is really wierd

[BarbaraHudson]

Iraq wasn't a Sharia law country.

I never said it was. I was pointing out that Saudi Arabia, a sharia law country, seems to be immune from accountability, trade sanctions, etc. because OIL.

Re: This is really wierd

[3.5 stripes]

Saddam was maintained in power by the US and its interests. Saddam kept a lid on violence that threatened the stability of his country and his neighbors, not all violence. Saddam funded much less terrorism than the US. You're going to have to provide some numbers for that last claim, unless you're trying to claim the time periods of his power and removal are somehow equal (they are not).

Stabilizing influences, like Saddam you mean?

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

You act as though being ignorant should be a sought after characteristic - idiot.

Re: This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Why should germanics care about a culture which aims to enslave us ?

Re: This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

In truth it is mohammedism. An evil ideology like communism. Not a race.

Re: This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

You lie. Saud and turk finance, aid and support isis. They are the secret speartip of sunni mohammedism.

Officially they claim the opposite.

Re: This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

Mohammedism has quite a few shared traits with communism. That makes it even more dangerous.

Re:This is really wierd

[Anonymous Coward]

then you shouldn't have used the word 'another'

Re:This is really wierd

[BarbaraHudson]

Fair enough :-)

Re:This is really wierd

[beastofburdon]

Yes it is manufactured. It is a product of the CIA and Israeli intelligence agencies.

Re:This is really wierd

[lars_stefan_axelsson]

And as a result of Paris, there is a lot of racism directed at muslims the last couple days, or at least it suddenly feels like so. Nobody yet realizes that calling for the mass execution of muslims because they are evil and rape and murder sounds stunningly like Nazi rhetoric against the Jewish (just as untrue), and worse, it appears as though now it's culturally acceptable.

And the terrorists know that and are actively seeking it.

It's an age old tactic. After all all insurgencies start small with just a handful of those willing to take action actively in the fight. The vast majority just want to get on with their lives, no matter the circumstances. That risks that the revolution peters out. So in order to put some backbone into the population rallying them against a common enemy is the order of the day.

This can be done by for example hitting the enemy hard enough that they retaliate (if you're occupied by a reasonable man, try and kill him in the most gruesome fashion imaginable in the hopes that his replacement will act much harsher and put the squeeze on the population at large). Another way, as in Beslan, is to commit heinous acts of terror against the majority group of the population (whether ethnic, political or similar) in the hope that they'll over react and oppress the minority that you're trying to rally.

Attacks like Paris of course reek of the latter. If I was an ISIS/Al queda/Boko haram i.e. "islamic" terroris (in our eyes that is) I'd start the exact same course of action. Their problem is that they don't have sufficient support in their local western communities. Which is not surprising, many in those communities fled that shit, that's why there here. So in order to rally them, I'd say: "Let's see if we can't anger the majority into putting the boot in hard enough to make our people see things our way."

It's heartening to note that even in cases like Beslan, that tactic failed. The wide scale repression of the population they terrorists claimed to represent, failed to materialise. We'd do well to follow this example, as doing the opposite and letting ourselves get carried away is exactly what the Islamic terrorist strategists want.

The wages

[Anonymous Coward]

The Powers That Be are going to use this development to get manditory backdoors, key escrow and all the other heinous shit you people hate so much. Enjoy your open borders. Hope it was worth it.

Say bye-bye to your Tor

[Anonymous Coward]

ISIL on Tor means NSA/CIA own Tor. That is all.

Re:Say bye-bye to your Tor

[Anonymous Coward]

Eh, it was already a pretty safe assumption that they controlled a not-insignificant number of the US exit nodes to begin with.

Re:Say bye-bye to your Tor

[Ryanrule]

they already do bro. maybe they even built it.

Re:Say bye-bye to your Tor

[FatdogHaiku]

There's no maybe. Google it. Or check Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor#History.
Or read this (referenced on the Wikipedia page) https://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/...

The propaganda machine in public

[cerberusss]

but no one has ever published proof of those claims or explored how the propaganda machine operates in public

On the other hand, just turn on the TV and watch our own propaganda machine in public. I don't know how many Syrian and Iraqi civilians died in the past year, but it's surely bound to be a multitude of the recent Western victims.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

And each death of an innocent is a tragedy, regardless of where it happened.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

Expected range of violence. No one in the US bats an eye at the Chicago inner city murder rate, but if a single bullet is fired in the prosperous parts of the same city it'll be national news.

No one in "the west" wants to actively take sides in yet another round of the same tribal warfare that's been going on since before the last time the tribal warfare burnt down all the libraries in their reach. But when one of the tribes decides to attack outside their little sandbox, it's noticed.

I'm not defending this, I think the selective outrage is reprehensible, but it can be useful to understand. The public opinion is not concerned with the actual levels of violence, only about changes in the level of violence. Anything you've apparently been able to live through is considered tolerable as it is, but if things get worse, that's a time for panic.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[PolygamousRanchKid]

I don't know how many Syrian and Iraqi civilians died in the past year,

Syrians are voting with their feet. They are undertaking horrendous and dangerous journeys to get to Europe . . . all which is better than living under a Muslim ruled country.

If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it? It seems that the only folks who want to go to the Islamic state are teenage boys, who like the idea of buying teenage girls sex slaves.

Islam is worse than Nazis . . . and until we acknowledge that, the West will suffer wherever we offer Muslims refuge.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Coren22]

There has been quite a bit published in the news about people being killed in Syria and Iraq. I don't know what news you are reading, but I have seen it all over Fox, CNN, and BBC.

Here is the reports of the Kurds retaking Sinjar for the Yazidi people who were attacked by ISIS:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/...

Kobani was all over the news, how did you miss it?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/...

This story has been all over the news, of course there are things that we in the west miss out on, and some of that is due to the violence of war itself, not all the news actually get out.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

This is the sort of ridiculous FUD that makes people not want to talk to idiots like you.

"If Islam is so great, how come..." it's because they aren't running from "Islam", they're running from bad leaders.

You may as well ask why Americans expat themselves "if Democracy is so good".

Re: The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, they're running from it now, but what do you wanna bet in two generations, when they've out breed the indigenous Europeans, they'll get nostalgic and cry for sharia law, and the SJW crowd will stand for their particular brand of oppression on the principal that its not the white patriarchal oppression which has treated them so well.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[vux984]

If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it?

They aren't. They are taking Islam with them.

What they are trying to get away from is war and the destruction that goes with all that; caused by fanatical extremist nutjobs they don't agree with but lack the power to do anything about.

It seems that the only folks who want to go to the Islamic state are ...

Maladjusted, unhappy, people who feel afraid, helpless, and isolated who want to be part of something bigger and stronger to validate themselves and feel powerful. So... the same sort of people who join street gangs, and for much the same reasons.

Islam is worse than Nazis

ISIS is getting up there. They're still a genocide of millions behind them, but they aren't good people that's for sure. And we shouldn't wait for them ratchet up the death toll any further.

But why blame Islam? Some nutjobs perverted and distorted the religion to integrate it with their propaganda . The root religion is no more at fault here than Christianity was the root problem of the Nazis and their racist perversion of Christianity "Positive Christianity".

West will suffer wherever we offer Muslims refuge.

Your comparison to the Nazi's seems apt again. Were all German's that fled Germany during world war 2 closet Nazi's? That the only reason anyone fled Germany was to start up local Nazi seed groups?

I gather, you fear that any Christians lurking about are secretly planning Spanish Inquisition 2.0 too.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[PolygamousRanchKid]

I gather, you fear that any Christians lurking about are secretly planning Spanish Inquisition 2.0 too.

Well, I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition, until they showed up at my door, mumbling something about "the rack" and the "comfy chair" . . . .

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

but no one has ever published proof of those claims or explored how the propaganda machine operates in public

On the other hand, just turn on the TV and watch our own propaganda machine in public. I don't know how many Syrian and Iraqi civilians died in the past year, but it's surely bound to be a multitude of the recent Western victims.

Why is the western world caring more about itself considered propaganda to you? Yes its a tragedy that terrorism driven by radical islam is killing thousands of innocents across the middle east, but as someone from a western country, why would I not care about a tragedy in France more? We have a much stronger relationship with them, and a much greater shared history. This doesn't make the death of muslims in Syria or other middle eastern country any less tragic, but it can mean that the general populace will feel more strongly about an attack on a group they feel more related to.

Instead of being outraged by one group giving another sympathy, if you a muslim, what should really outrage you is not why the western world doesn't care as much, but why their own governments in the middle east simply don't care. Islamic terrorists are murdering thousands of innocent muslims often in their own countries, or countries next to theirs, so why aren't they coming down on the terrorists? Why do we see no bold comments by Iran and Saudi Arabia where they are willing to put aside their difference to stop the slaughter of fellow muslims? This sensless slaughter has been going on for decades, instead they are silent in this area.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

Is there some kind of disease where you can't tell the difference between "Islam isn't the same as Nazism" and "Islam is super great"?

I *don't like Islam*, but let's take your comparison of Islam being worse than Nazis. Blaming Islam for ISIS is like blaming Christianity for Nazis. Nazis were nominally Christian and used Christian symbology. There are many recorded speeches where they explicitly declare Germany (Nazi Germany) a Christian nation. But it just doesn't actually reflect on Christianity, and people can also rightly point to things the Nazis did that seem contradictory to those statements or weaken institutions traditionally thought of as Christian. You'll also find that ISIS is brutalizing Muslims, is opposed by most of the Muslim world, and explicitly denounces large movements as heretic that most of the world considers Muslim.

It's just a stupid synecdoche to conflate ISIS or Al Qaeda with Islam. Argue about Islam on its own terms, not by holding up their worst representatives as if it was a meaningful reflection.

Every time there's one of these tragedies, two things happen:

1. Huge masses of Muslims denounce it and give either the "not all Muslims" speech or the "no true Scotsman/Muslim" speech.
2. Huge numbers of non-Muslims ask why Muslims aren't denouncing it and act like they stand together on this.

(that above effect also happens with non-Muslim terrorism terrorism)

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 your lies and mistakes backfired on you in your classic fails list apk put up quoting you in those hilarious fails of yours. Shame on you. You claim to be MCSE? Doubt it.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Z00L00K]

And that's the problem, they flee instead of facing the danger and taking care of it.

What Daesh (IS) really want is to cause chaos in the rest of the world with all the refugees and by that also infiltrate countries with some of their own.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[dave420]

It's not tribal warfare. It's far from tribal warfare. It's a battle of ideologies. Saying it's tribes ignores the real reasons groups like these get together, which ensures it will happen again.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[dave420]

You are confusing Islam with fundamental Islam. Doing so makes you indistinguishable from a lazy xenophobe.

Your argument would make sense if the only difference between Syria and Europe was Islam. Clearly all the violence and bombings and fucked-up economy etc. are not the same as in Europe, so your "logic" is a farce, only proving your desire to leap to conclusions which bolster your pre-existing hatred, or your complete lack of logical ability. Neither is particularly becoming. I guess if you and your family were living in a place which had attacks of the magnitude we saw on Friday every single day, you'd probably want to move your family out. These people are doing that, and you not only fail to recognise why they are moving, but decide to inject your own messed-up understanding of religion and intolerance onto them, when that's the last thing in the world they need or deserve.

I'd say lazy xenophobia is worse than Nazis, as that's what brought the Nazis to power, and it's apparently something you are a great fan of.

You suck as a human being, and I wish you a full recovery.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[dave420]

How are they supposed to take care of it when the world's powers are engaged in a proxy war between an entrenched dictator and well-armed groups. It's all well and good asking why they don't stay, but it only takes a few seconds to figure out why. There is sweet fuck-all they can do.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Tom]

If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it?

The refugees are not trying to get away from Islam. They are trying to get away from war, bombs and dying in a hail of bullets.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Dog-Cow]

Why do we see no bold comments by Iran and Saudi Arabia where they are willing to put aside their difference to stop the slaughter of fellow muslims?

Are you really as clueless as this question indicates?

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

This is the sort of ridiculous FUD that makes people not want to talk to idiots like you.

"If Islam is so great, how come..." it's because they aren't running from "Islam", they're running from bad leaders.

You may as well ask why Americans expat themselves "if Democracy is so good".

They aren't running,

They are invading.

Over these past weeks, I have found _ONE_ photo that included what looked like women and a few children. The rest, have been able bodied, fit, aggressive and confident men that were soldiers or trained fighters in regular cloths. WHY would a "refugee" throw away their ID and papers that could only speed their processing in a safe country? (Yet, somehow retain a smart phone.) The answer is simple, they don't want their old identity to follow them because knowing who they were would remove all doubt about how dangerous they are. These are not shop-keepers and teachers and guys that build stuff out of mud. These are experienced fighters up to no good.

The Paris attacks were just the start.

Re:The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

Every single one of these screams out narcissistic personality disorder APK.

Re: The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

Bingo. Communists hate the germanic man so much that they will ally themselves with mohammedics.

Our only solace will be that the commies will be killed first, as soon as the mohammedics are the majority of the population.

Re: The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

Mohammedism explicitly requests the destruction of any other ideology or religion. Killing people of other faith is explicitly called for.

They have a history of doing that. And lots of young men to
Implement.

They can only move freely into out countries because they nicely bribe the battenbergs, the bushes and the clintons.

Re: The propaganda machine in public

[Anonymous Coward]

The saudis finance mohammedic terror worldwide. Erdogan and islamabad are on their side.

Our corrupt bushes, battenbergs and clintons protect this.

In other words, isis is the doing of prince charles of wales.

This Is Proof. Proof I say...

[Anonymous Coward]

That ToR and the darknet is a terrorist system, that must be stopped.

I say, boy, pay attention when I’m talkin’ to ya, boy

Good riddance

[Anonymous Coward]

Propaganda is only useful if people see it. If they're moving it to somewhere no one can find it well, good riddance.

Spelling fix

[Anonymous Coward]

you misspelled Burkanet

Lot of communication questions

[Anonymous Coward]

Its clear ISIS is not making the same mistakes other radicals have made. Paris attack was generally under the radar. This is 9-11 all over again given the secrecy kept and lack of intelligence. The train gunman was only a tragedy avoided by luck not intelligence. A clear lesson we are not fighting dumb thugs.

Re:Lot of communication questions

[Anonymous Coward]

Disagreed. These ISIS guys are dumb as rocks. Pulling a trigger while pointing a weapon at a crowd is the lowest common denominator. There's no creativity or intelligence involved in that.

The problems is that our "intelligence" people are also dumb as rocks and too busy trying to make themselves relevant.

Let's get something straight...

[Anonymous Coward]

If "the terrorists" have been forced out of the regular internet, then it's a victory for the good guys. The Darknet is not conducive to propaganda activity. Propoganda needs to be readily available and ubiquitous in order to succeed. Being relegated to the Darknet is not going to help the Isis cause in any way.

But let's all forget all that and put on the fear-monger hats for a bit, eh?

Re:Let's get something straight...

[Anonymous Coward]

Q: Why is the french flag blue, white, red?
A: because they ran out of white.

Re:Let's get something straight...

[Anonymous Coward]

I hear the darknet is made out of reanimated corpses

Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[SeaFox]

I thought ISIS's whole thing was recruiting people through social media.
Kinda hard to reach the public when you take your propaganda machine into part of the Internet most people don't know even exists.

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[PPH]

I thought ISIS's whole thing was recruiting people through social media.

And that will probably continue. Until the potential recruits have been vetted (i.e. no FBI logging onto a game and volunteering to go to Syria). At that point, they will probably be given instructions on where and how to connect to a darknet portal.

Our intelligence services are getting quite lazy. No actual humint work, even on line. They just want to scrape the Internet with giant automated filters and act on every instance of "bomb" or "jihad" that they trip over. It's too much work to pose as a disenchanted 18-year-old, build a back story and correspond with an ISIS recruiter. But give them the opportunity to put on a tuxedo, drink martinis and meet Pussy Galore and I'm sure they'd be up for that.

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[kencurry]

... But give them the opportunity to put on a tuxedo, drink martinis and meet Pussy Galore and I'm sure they'd be up for that.

I know I am totally down for this duty. Plus, I want to drive the new Aston Martin, and hang around Monte Carlo and the Bahamas.

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[Coren22]

But give them the opportunity to put on a tuxedo, drink martinis and meet Pussy Galore and I'm sure they'd be up for that.

In all fairness, what heterosexual male wouldn't be up for that?

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[MouseTheLuckyDog]

Just the thought makes me ... uhhm... go up.

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[rockout]

Our intelligence services are getting quite lazy. No actual humint work, even on line. They just want to scrape the Internet with giant automated filters and act on every instance of "bomb" or "jihad" that they trip over.

Your lack of understanding of what US intel is currently doing is hilarious.

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[PPH]

Your lack of understanding of what US intel is currently doing is hilarious.

So you're saying we saw Paris coming, but just didn't bother to tell the French? Or we've caught all the people leaking NSA/CIA information (other than Snowden, the one guy who came out and admitted what he did and that this crap goes on all the time). Of course, we're pretty good at catching Chinese spies. Because they have Chinese names.

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[PPH]

hang around Monte Carlo and the Bahamas

Any volunteers for an undercover assignment in Tora Bora?

[sound of crickets]

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[rockout]

So you're saying that because we didn't see Paris coming, that means we're not doing human intel anymore?

Try again.

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[Anonymous Coward]

Only problem in your case is she wouldn't want a mentally abnormal autism retard like you. Your own woman left you, so you think a woman of that calibre would even look your way without massive disgust, reject? Guess again. Quit deluding yourself retard!

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[Coren22]

Left me? You are funny, I kicked her ass out, got the house, car, and child support. Perhaps you should check your idiocity at the door, as I don't think it belongs on an article about the Paris attacks or this thread, which is about the CIA playing James Bond.

APK, your OCD/NPD is shining through, everything always has to be about you and how SPECIAL you are.

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[PPH]

we're not doing human intel anymore?

Not doing it well. Some 18 year-old /b/tard can track anonymous posts through various "dark apps" and successfully dox them. But our professional intelligence services are crying "Dark apps! We're helpless!" They are incompetent.

Try again.

And this defends your position how, exactly?

Re:Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet...

[rockout]

So you went from "we're not doing any actual human intel" to "we're not doing it well."

I think we're done here.

Why is the french flag red, blue, white

[Anonymous Coward]

q: Why is the french flag blue, white, red?
a: Because they ran out of white

Re:Why is the french flag red, blue, white

[Anonymous Coward]

That wasn't funny the first time. Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

Re:Why is the french flag red, blue, white

[Anonymous Coward]

fuck yourself and the horse you fucked

Check your privileged ignorance, AC

[mister_playboy]

Denmark surrendered two hours after being invaded in the war, but the French get all the bad press.

No excuse for such ignorance in the age of Wikipedia.

Update your joke to a level appropriate for this site populated by genius-level intellects and try again.

Re:Check your privileged ignorance, AC

[Anonymous Coward]

Lighten up Francis.

Re:Check your privileged ignorance, AC

[Anonymous Coward]

Update your joke to a level appropriate for this site populated by genius-level intellects and try again.

You MUST be joking...

Re:Check your privileged ignorance, AC

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah we did, and we're damn proud of it. What we did was tantamount to having a chihuahua survive in a cage with a tiger for 5 years.

They had a war-machine, all we could do was sprinkle LEGO's at the border.

The "Darknet" may vomit them out.

[gestalt_n_pepper]

There are a lot of talented programmers out there using TOR who just might not appreciate a disruption in business by a bunch of religious nuts. Anonymous has already voiced their disapproval.

I foresee highly amusing consequences of ISIS attempts to make use of "darknet" resources. They may find that all of their orders for rations have been modified to include bacon and all of their ammunition is rerouted to Sweden.

Re:The "Darknet" may vomit them out.

[Anonymous Coward]

That's not really how the technology works, but the idea might be right.
Daesh has a huge social media and Intertubes presence for recruitment purposes. They don't manage their inventory in there, but they enlist weak minded people.

I would love to see 'nonny taking down the Tor onions, the small twitter accounts and helping centralize them in one big clearnet place where they can be monitored.

Re: The "Darknet" may vomit them out.

[Anonymous Coward]

The anonymice have no means at all to take on the IS. Most of all, the lack the cajones. As soon as they realize they're up against people who will gladly slice their faces off and use them to wipe their asses, they'll fold and give up, just like with the Zetas. They made a mess with the KKK "outings" which just showed how incompetent they are. They got their asses handed to them by Amazon, to say it aloud. All those stupid "declarations of war" won't make up for the years of deserved torment in high school at the hands of their betters. The Cool Kids made it big in Real Life, instead of pumping gas like they thought, and the zit-faced nerds see their lives wasting away in mom's basement instead of leading a vast tech empire, like they dreamed. Contrarily to Hollywood-fueled fantasies, Real Life does not suffer losers. Suck it up.

Link

[Anonymous Coward]

http://isdratetp4donyfy.onion/ - Link to the site in question, if you want to take a personal look at the scum of the earth.

It's the first result on Twitter when searching .onion.link, and the start (isd...) matches the badly smudged-out URL in TFA's screenshot, so that's the same hidden service.
I'll just leave this here and with a little bit of luck some elite haxxor will mess with their shit.

Re:Link

[Anonymous Coward]

The beauty of tor is that not only are they anonymous to us, we're anonymous to them, so we have unlimited time and talent to try to hack this server into oblivion and they cannot track anyone down or even block brute force attacks because from the server's perspective, all connections are coming from the internal IP of their tor endpoint (typically 127.0.0.1).

Re:Link

[Anonymous Coward]

I have half a mind to implement DonnchaC's HSDir denial of service research.
With just 12 relays and a bit of CPU time it's easy to take down any one hidden service. Someone just needs to code and run it.

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

+ Migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

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"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

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"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Stupid, mine doesn't to get new data. Only hosts itself updates need it vs WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

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"90's technology to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET said hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Continued in #2/4... apk

Re:Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/4... apk

[dave420]

We are attempting to discuss something far more important than some fuckwit's shitty hosts software.

Have some fucking dignity and check your software at the door. There are times and places for discussing it, this is not one of them.

Show some fucking respect.

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

Stupid, neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = VASTLY INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I've proven & no one proved me wrong to date!

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"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP!

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"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I don't keep a server. You're a security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code) & I only put in hardcodes of fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of the file is sorted blocked known bad threat origins.

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"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

See just above!

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"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

Hasn't happened!

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"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

It still works there - who are you trying to fool other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> To be continued in part #3/4... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

---

You tried using Computer Associates another antivirus I turned over on false positives (1/8 over time) & they were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap also) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

* YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

APK

P.S.=> To be continued in part #4/4... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"but rather than take my advise on various things, he feels that he is allowed to defame me by saying things he knows are not true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @10:06AM (#50863109)

Hypocrite, I show you're projecting in my posts & your signatures about me does the rest. What "advice" can you, an INFERIOR to me, like yourself give?

"I have offered him advise on ways to improve what he does to reduce the feeling of icky his software - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @10:06AM (#50863109)

I've shown /.'ers say differently by their quoted testimonials - Show us you've done better: YOU can't - & you're "advising"? Talking out your ass on things you haven't done is what you're doing.

"posting them so often that maybe, just maybe, someone will think they are true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @10:06AM (#50863109)

Quotes of you are true! You can't keep your word as you're replying to me yet again + projecting what I prove YOU do (AD/DNS lie).

"I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @04:27PM (#50858983)

No troll. I protect users for free w/ a program that speeds them up, helps reliability, & even anonymity online w/ more abilities & efficiency than ANY other 1 solution doing more w/ less - do you? No.

"Maybe I should change my signature again just to rile him up some more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @10:07AM (#50855451) FROM http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

"Rile" me? Childish sig bs is all you've got!

"I have repeatedly refuted his assertions - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015 @10:06AM (#50863109)

BS - See my last 4 posts here!

APK

P.S.=>

"I never admitted you were right" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

You PROVE I AM FOR ME part #1-#4 of your "Greatest Hits Fails"... apk

Re: Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Apk, are you actually Brett Glass?

Nothing to worry about

[Anonymous Coward]

Since the FBI has experience is unmasking those dastardly ' evildoers ' of the DarkNet, I suspect the conflict is as good as over :|

John Chapter 8, Verse 32... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject, my posts to Coren22 & "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"...

* :)

(It's that simple...)

APK

P.S.=> Lastly, to answer you? No, sorry - I am not whoever that person is... apk

Re:John Chapter 8, Verse 32... apk

[Coren22]

http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/...

It appears you are both severely OCD, and have an issue letting things go even when proved wrong. Sounds just like you, I can see the comparison.

Are you too simple to use Google? Is it too hard for you? We know you don't do computers well, so it can be excused if you never learned how to Google something to find out what it means, after all, you were born before the first personal computer was invented.

Also, your subject, Yes, the truth will set you free, so admit it, you need a psyciatrist to treat your OCD/NPD. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to getting help with the problem.

John 8:32:

Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

That's not how propaganda works.

[sabbede]

You need to jam it down people's throats for it to work. Hiding your propaganda is like putting a billboard at the bottom of a lake.

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

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"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

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"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

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"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

Hasn't happened..

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

It works there!

Telemetry tracking (Killing 10 by itself) Win10's = Win8: A flop - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/4... apk

Are you a licensed degreed psychiatric pro?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Do you have results of a formal psychiatric exam given me in a professional psychiatric environs for your prognosis of my alleged mental state according to you "Dr. Quack: 'SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /.'"?

No.

* That's libel of myself from you...

(However, that's why WORMS like you Coren22 hide behind fake names online...)

APK

P.S.=> You've got delusions of grandeur thinking you're a shrink & You're also the ADMITTED self-professed mentally aberrant abnormal "assburgers/outism" case for Pete's sake too (if anyone has mental issues here), lol!

... apk

Re:Are you a licensed degreed psychiatric pro?

[Coren22]

It doesn't take a licensed professional to diagnose someone, only to treat someone.

So, since you think it does, I have to ask where you think you have the right to do the exact same thing to me, accusing me of being mentally aberrant and abnormal (and elsewhere calling me a retard)?

Coren22's "signature" speaks of me... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Every time he posts so I speak of his fails - simple. Some /.er's disagree w/ you dave420 on my ware:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

(LMAO... you FAIL as usual, again, vs. me!)

* What's that you said I have quoted from you above Dave420?

APK

P.S.=> Thanks for making me look good: You always say something I can put away with undeniable facts that prove you wrong & you're outnumbered, outthought + outplayed (you played yourself)... lol!

... apk

You're a licensed degreed practicing shrink?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Do you have results of a formal psychiatric exam given me in a professional psychiatric environs for your prognosis of my alleged mental state according to you "Dr. Quack: 'SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /.'"?

No.

* That's libel of myself from you...

(However, that's why WORMS like you Coren22 hide behind fake names online...)

You've got delusions of grandeur thinking you're a shrink & You're also the ADMITTED self-professed mentally aberrant abnormal "assburgers/outism" case for Pete's sake too (if anyone has mental issues here), lol!

Your signatures are about me, so here I am to address that too... you bring it on yourself.

APK

P.S.=> Sure you kicked her out Coren22 - sounds like she kicked you to the curb (or you can't pick the right women) to me) ... ap

Re:You're a licensed degreed practicing shrink?

[Coren22]

It is only libel if it isn't true, care to submit to a psych eval to determine who is correct on this?

Since you decided to bring up my signature yet again, here are some other people's signatures I have collected over the past couple of days, just for you:

--
Only two facts are certain in this world: DNS is better than hosts, and APK has a bad case of OCD.

--
APK thinks spamming slashdot is good advertising... Definitely not for his doctor.

So, since you are so sensitive about people's signatures, perhaps you should use your account to read Slashdot. You don't even have to use the account to post, but I would highly encourage it.

PS - Apologies to those these were shamelessly stolen from, I will not attribute them to you as I don't want to encourage the insanity. If you want to take credit for them, feel free.

You're a licensed degreed practicing shrink?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Do you have results of a formal psychiatric exam given me in a professional psychiatric environs for your prognosis of my alleged mental state according to you "Dr. Quack: 'SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /.'"?

No.

* That's libel of myself from you...

(However, that's why WORMS like you Coren22 hide behind fake names online &/or post by ac trolling as you are now to "support yourself"...)

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Your immature "signatures" scream about me in some attempt to defame me maliciously - so I just tell the truth about you - John 8:32 "You shall know the truth & the truth shall make you free" & so will everyone else.

APK

P.S.=> You've got delusions of grandeur thinking you're a shrink & You're also the ADMITTED self-professed mentally aberrant abnormal "assburgers/outism" case for Pete's sake too (if anyone has mental issues here Coren22), lol!

... apk

"The website hosts the usual anti-Western icon..."

[friesofdoom]

So, while using their computers, the internet and the dark web, they are protesting Western iconography? I bet the irony is completely lost on these gutter crawling cur.

Coren22 knows (autism/aspergers)

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: I'll take your word on it as the voice of experience, & there isn't a cure for your issues (signatures about me? Please - talk about "projecting" you can't handle the fact I completely annihilated you for those signatures about me in your 'greatest hits fails list' vs. myself... lmao!)

APK

P.S.=> You vainly *trying* to tell us that your autism/aspergers brain is "normal"? Please, lol... your signatures about me prove my point on that RIGHT there alone - grow up! apk

Re:Coren22 knows (autism/aspergers)

[Coren22]

Yeah, you sure annihilated me...when you made a complete and utter fool of yourself. Keep it up, everyone is laughing at you.

Re:Coren22 knows (autism/aspergers)

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm sure he'd enjoy a postcard. Wouldn't be the first one he's received from someone he started following around on Slashdot.

The idiot doxxed himself years ago and still has the same address and phone.

Re:Coren22 knows (autism/aspergers)

[Coren22]

Not a bad idea, I could get creative with that.

More propaganda

[Anonymous Coward]

Is this more of the "we must unmask darknet and be able to break into encryption" propaganda that's coming so the Alphabet soup has something to point to as proof?

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

+ Migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

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"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

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"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Stupid, mine doesn't to get new data. Only hosts itself updates need it vs WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's technology to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET said hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Continued in #2/4... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

Hasn't happened..

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

It works there!

Telemetry tracking (Killing 10 by itself) Win10 = Win8: A flop - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/4... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

---

You tried using Computer Associates another antivirus I turned over on false positives (1/8 over time) & they were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap also) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

* YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

APK

P.S.=> To be continued in part #4/4... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/4... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"defame me saying things he knows aren't true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

Hypocrite You're projecting & your signatures do the rest.

"the feeling of icky his software - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015/quote>

I show /.'ers say differently by quoted testimonials - Show us you've done better: YOU can't!

"maybe someone will think they are true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

Quotes of you = true - & You can't keep your word + projecting what YOU do (AD/DNS lie).

"I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

I protect users speeding them up, helping reliability, & security + anonymity online w/ more ability & efficiency than ANY 1 solution doing more w/ less - do you? No.

"I should change my signature again to rile him up more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

Childish sigs = all you've got!

"I refuted his assertions - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

&

"You claim I have never proved you wrong...a flat out lie." - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

&

"I proved you wrong on numerous occasions" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

Where & on what tech? "Cat got your tongue"??

"written in shitty Delphi, "How to secure Windows" docs I could have written in my sleep when I was 20" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2016

You're 30++ & haven't done either!

Show you've done MORE vs.a small partial list of mine & better, + earlier:

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

THEN talk vs. TALKING OUT YOUR ASS!

CIS Tool took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which you doubted & my layered security guides got me paid http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... MILLIONS use.

APK

P.S.=>

"I never admit you were right" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

You PROVE I AM... apk

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me again today

[Anonymous Coward]

"Keep it up, maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment too" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @02:33PM (#50949989)

See subject & ~ a dozen +5 upmods for me that make you now "eat your words" again vs. me (& you'll like the 1st one seeing as you tried using what I posted there against me only to FAIL yet again, lol, vs. me):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

COMPUTER ASSOCIATES BUSTED FOR ACCOUNTING FRAUD: 2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
HOSTS & BGP: 2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
FIREFOX IN DANGER: 2011 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
TESLA: 2010 -> http://science.slashdot.org/co...
TESLA: 2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
NVIDIA 2d: 2006 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
Ubuntu Linux sends back local disk query strings to CANONICAL: 2012 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
Question to Mr. Mark Shuttleworth @ UBUNTU/CANONICAL: 2012 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
Jeremiah Cornelius caught spamming (he didn't do his usual ac submit): 2013 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
2014 - POSTAROO SCAM (in Craigslist post on them): -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
2015 - Microsoft Windows 7/8/10 TELEMETRY (again) & HOW TO STOP IT -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You really believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @02:33PM (#50949989)

Truth be told? You're 'greatest hits fail list' I posted shows YOU GOT THE BETTER OF YOURSELF bigmouth - so many technical fails, & lies about me, it's hilarious... lol, & your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt over it...

APK

P.S.=> Coren22 - seriously: If you have to take your meds for your "outism/assburgers" delicate condition (lmao)? Please do already... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/5... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

+ Migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

---

I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Stupid, mine doesn't to get new data. Only hosts itself updates need it vs WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's technology to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET said hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #2/5... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/5... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

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"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

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"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

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"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

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"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

Hasn't happened..

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"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

It works there!

Telemetry tracking (Killing 10 by itself) Win10 = Win8: A flop - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/5... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

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MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

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You tried using Computer Associates another antivirus I turned over on false positives (1/8 over time) & they were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap also) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

* YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

APK

P.S.=> To be continued in part #4/5... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/5... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How can my program do it: Only things it puts non-blocking IP addy to hostnames is ones users give it as their favs to speed up @ the TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED?

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY AS THEY ARE @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out of it!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

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"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods making you "eat your words" vs. me (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in tech fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures on me SCREAM you're butthurt!

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #5/5... apk

Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #5/5... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"defame me saying things he knows aren't true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

Hypocrite You're projecting & your signatures do the rest.

"the feeling of icky his software - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

I show /.'ers say differently by quoted testimonials - Show us you've done better: YOU can't!

"maybe someone will think they are true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

Quotes of you = true - & You can't keep your word + projecting what YOU do (AD/DNS lie).

"I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

I protect users speeding them up, helping reliability, & security + anonymity online w/ more ability & efficiency than ANY 1 solution doing more w/ less - do you? No.

"I should change my signature again to rile him up more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

Childish sigs = all you've got!

"I refuted his assertions - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

&

"You claim I have never proved you wrong...a flat out lie." - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

&

"I proved you wrong on numerous occasions" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

Where & on what tech? "Cat got your tongue"??

"written in shitty Delphi, "How to secure Windows" docs I could have written in my sleep when I was 20" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2016

You're 30++ & haven't done either!

Show you've done MORE vs.a small partial list of mine & better, + earlier:

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

THEN talk vs. TALKING OUT YOUR ASS!

CIS Tool took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which you doubted & my layered security guides got me paid http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... MILLIONS use.

APK

P.S.=>

"I never admit you were right" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

You PROVED I AM... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

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Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

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"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

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"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

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"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

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MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

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"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

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YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

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DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

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"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

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"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

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"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

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"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

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"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

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"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk