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After Paris, ISIS Moves Propaganda Machine To Darknet (csoonline.com)
itwbennett writes: Over the weekend, researcher Scot Terban came across the new website of Al-Hayat Media Center, the media division of Daesh (aka ISIS/ISIL), in a post on Shamikh forum (a known jihadi bulletin board), 'someone had posted the new address and instructions for reaching it,' writes CSO's Steve Ragan. The website hosts the usual anti-Western iconography, as well as songs (Nasheeds) and poems for mujahids in various locations. Terban has mirrored the website and its files; he says he plans to publish more details in the coming days. 'Over the years, there have been several claims made that Daesh had propaganda and recruitment hubs on the Darknet, but no one has ever published proof of those claims or explored how the propaganda machine operates in public,' says Ragan.
on "the darknet"?
What is the "darknet"? tor sites? freenet sites? or is darknet an actual service/thing?
I'm god, but it's a bit of a drag really...
I am certain the murdered people's family and friends in Paris would disagree with your assessment as "manufactured". Are some facts being obscured/convoluted? Possibly, but the threat, in whatever form the media gives it, seems quite real.
ISIS has and continues to kill more muslims than any other group of people on a DAILY BASIS and not a single news rag covers it until some white folks get shot.
Expected range of violence. No one in the US bats an eye at the Chicago inner city murder rate, but if a single bullet is fired in the prosperous parts of the same city it'll be national news.
No one in "the west" wants to actively take sides in yet another round of the same tribal warfare that's been going on since before the last time the tribal warfare burnt down all the libraries in their reach. But when one of the tribes decides to attack outside their little sandbox, it's noticed.
I'm not defending this, I think the selective outrage is reprehensible, but it can be useful to understand. The public opinion is not concerned with the actual levels of violence, only about changes in the level of violence. Anything you've apparently been able to live through is considered tolerable as it is, but if things get worse, that's a time for panic.
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I don't know how many Syrian and Iraqi civilians died in the past year,
Syrians are voting with their feet. They are undertaking horrendous and dangerous journeys to get to Europe . . . all which is better than living under a Muslim ruled country.
If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it? It seems that the only folks who want to go to the Islamic state are teenage boys, who like the idea of buying teenage girls sex slaves.
Islam is worse than Nazis . . . and until we acknowledge that, the West will suffer wherever we offer Muslims refuge.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Dude, a million+ people have died in Iraq alone as a result of Bush's invasion. All the key isis people are ex-iraqis, recruiting younger, dimmer but more excitable people from everywhere else. That's what's manufactured this situation. Not a few websites. Watch "four lions" - the fuckers are everywhere.
There are a lot of talented programmers out there using TOR who just might not appreciate a disruption in business by a bunch of religious nuts. Anonymous has already voiced their disapproval.
I foresee highly amusing consequences of ISIS attempts to make use of "darknet" resources. They may find that all of their orders for rations have been modified to include bacon and all of their ammunition is rerouted to Sweden.
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There has been quite a bit published in the news about people being killed in Syria and Iraq. I don't know what news you are reading, but I have seen it all over Fox, CNN, and BBC.
Here is the reports of the Kurds retaking Sinjar for the Yazidi people who were attacked by ISIS:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/...
Kobani was all over the news, how did you miss it?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/...
This story has been all over the news, of course there are things that we in the west miss out on, and some of that is due to the violence of war itself, not all the news actually get out.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Sorry but the OP is correct... this situation *has* been manufactured by the USA's long-standing practice of pissing in other people's pools.
If the USA (and other Western nations) just kept their noses out of other country's politics then there wouldn't be this rapidly growing anti-western sentiment within the Middle East.
Hell... the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.
The USA has almost certainly killed more innocent men, women and children (conveniently categorised as "collateral damage") through their drone strikes than daesh has ever beheaded, shot or blown up.
The USA regularly executes its own citizens (hello Texas???) who the feel have violated their rules (rape/murder) -- yet complain so loudly when other cultures, religions or countries do the same.
Message to the US government: do not expect *anyone* to be pleased if you piss in their pool. Do not act surprised when those people decide to come piss in your pool.
I believe that what daesh and Al Quaeda have done is totally barbaric -- but then again, the same can be said for those Western nations who have engaged in acts of terrorism and murder against other nations.
Let he who is without sin ... as they say.
Why doesn't everyone just grow up and start acting like adults for a change????
Of course. It's us vs them. They hate our Western, Judeo-Christian way of life. They want a one-world caliphate dominated by islam (I will not capitalize the word out of disrepect). islam is not just a religion; it's a complete system: religion is one aspect, there is also politics, civil governance, you name it. These asshats want the world under this system. Thankfully there are several sects and they all hate each other. Iran is a bulwark in the region against these people, although they are far from innocent. Notice these asshats won't life a finger to Iran? They know what would happen should they try.
Were I the president, I would fire bomb them for weeks on end with MOABs and napalm. If the bombs don't get you, lack of oxygen will. Enough playing games with these people. They want us dead. So, yes, when white Europeans die, it's a big deal. These people are roaches, so when one or more of them dies, it's not a big deal at all. They want to kill us and take over our way of life. Do you think for a second the migrants, 90% of whom are military-aged men is a joke? I've got family in Europe in several places, and they are considering moving because things are not what they should be. These men rape and kill everywhere they go. Sweden had, until islamic refugees, one of the lowest rape and crime instances in the EU. Now? Sweden and much of the EU will become like Detroit, just with different kinds of "gang bangers".
From their perspective, you want to kill and murder them all too, and apparently are willing to use highly explosive and vuiolent means to do so. Furthermore, you'd be willing not only to kill the terrorists, but every single living thing in all of those countries.
I despise ISIS with a burning passion for what they've done, but when other westerners get on a high horse about them "murdering us" and how we must "kill them all", you really don't see the irony that they're in the exact same position? That's not even starting with the fact most muslims are normal people too, outside of the reach of ISIS. It's not like we can quit now, but it's absurd to see how eager you are not only to repeat the events of 9/11 and worsen the situation even further, but about how you're just as violent and psychopathic as the terrorists you condem.
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it?
They aren't. They are taking Islam with them.
What they are trying to get away from is war and the destruction that goes with all that; caused by fanatical extremist nutjobs they don't agree with but lack the power to do anything about.
It seems that the only folks who want to go to the Islamic state are ...
Maladjusted, unhappy, people who feel afraid, helpless, and isolated who want to be part of something bigger and stronger to validate themselves and feel powerful. So... the same sort of people who join street gangs, and for much the same reasons.
Islam is worse than Nazis
ISIS is getting up there. They're still a genocide of millions behind them, but they aren't good people that's for sure. And we shouldn't wait for them ratchet up the death toll any further.
But why blame Islam? Some nutjobs perverted and distorted the religion to integrate it with their propaganda . The root religion is no more at fault here than Christianity was the root problem of the Nazis and their racist perversion of Christianity "Positive Christianity".
West will suffer wherever we offer Muslims refuge.
Your comparison to the Nazi's seems apt again. Were all German's that fled Germany during world war 2 closet Nazi's? That the only reason anyone fled Germany was to start up local Nazi seed groups?
I gather, you fear that any Christians lurking about are secretly planning Spanish Inquisition 2.0 too.
The ISIS links are manufactured. The terrorists were French citizens before ISIS started. Every stubbed toe will be ISIS. ISIS wants it to make them appear powerful and the "other side" wants the same thing because the stronger ISIS looks, the easier it is to get funding to bomb the Middle East.
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Sorry but the OP is correct... this situation *has* been manufactured by the USA's long-standing practice of pissing in other people's pools.
If the USA (and other Western nations) just kept their noses out of other country's politics then there wouldn't be this rapidly growing anti-western sentiment within the Middle East.
Hell... the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.
The USA has almost certainly killed more innocent men, women and children (conveniently categorised as "collateral damage") through their drone strikes than daesh has ever beheaded, shot or blown up.
The USA regularly executes its own citizens (hello Texas???) who the feel have violated their rules (rape/murder) -- yet complain so loudly when other cultures, religions or countries do the same.
Message to the US government: do not expect *anyone* to be pleased if you piss in their pool. Do not act surprised when those people decide to come piss in your pool.
I believe that what daesh and Al Quaeda have done is totally barbaric -- but then again, the same can be said for those Western nations who have engaged in acts of terrorism and murder against other nations.
Let he who is without sin ... as they say.
Why doesn't everyone just grow up and start acting like adults for a change????
Comparing Texas and ISIS really isn't fair. One executes for capital crimes after a lengthy trial and a 10+ year waiting list (ehich you could argue is more merciful than life in prison), and the other shoots anybody for any reason at any time. One blows up innocent civillains, the other pays for infastructure and rebuilds destroyed towns. As much noise as we like to make about it, America's actions in the war are far more civillized than ISIS' ever has been.
That being said, I will give you credit that this whole thing started with the US, that is true. And as a result of Paris, there is a lot of racism directed at muslims the last couple days, or at least it suddenly feels like so. Nobody yet realizes that calling for the mass execution of muslims because they are evil and rape and murder sounds stunningly like Nazi rhetoric against the Jewish (just as untrue), and worse, it appears as though now it's culturally acceptable. Why people can't behave as old as they are and stop playing a global game of comparing dick sizes I'll never know.
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Ummm.. are you really that sheltered, or are you trying to troll/piss off as many people as possible? Here's a clue for you: It's not being faked, it's not a publicity stunt, people got fucking killed, and more and more are getting killed every gods-be-damned day.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
No. It is not enough. Particularly as the US set him up to be what he was in the first place. Above all he was "modern" and secular. Vicious, nasty, a tyrant, all yes, yes, yes. Nevertheless less he kept a lid on the violence and was moving it towards a modern democratic state. You, cannot seriously presume that Iraq now has less violence and happier people after two illegal invasions by the US? Yes, Saddam was a scrap. The US picking at that scab has helped no one and caused death and misery for millions.
If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it?
The refugees are not trying to get away from Islam. They are trying to get away from war, bombs and dying in a hail of bullets.
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