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File Says NSA Found Way To Replace Email Program (nytimes.com)
schwit1 writes: Newly disclosed documents show that the NSA had found a way to create the functional equivalent of programs that had been shut down. The shift has permitted the agency to continue analyzing social links revealed by Americans' email patterns, but without collecting the data in bulk from American telecommunications companies — and with less oversight by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
The disclosure comes as a sister program that collects Americans' phone records in bulk is set to end this month. Under a law enacted in June, known as the USA Freedom Act, the program will be replaced with a system in which the NSA can still gain access to the data to hunt for associates of terrorism suspects, but the bulk logs will stay in the hands of phone companies.
The newly disclosed information about the email records program is contained in a report by the NSA's inspector general that was obtained through a lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act. One passage lists four reasons the NSA decided to end the email program and purge previously collected data. Three were redacted, but the fourth was uncensored. It said that "other authorities can satisfy certain foreign intelligence requirements" that the bulk email records program "had been designed to meet."
The disclosure comes as a sister program that collects Americans' phone records in bulk is set to end this month. Under a law enacted in June, known as the USA Freedom Act, the program will be replaced with a system in which the NSA can still gain access to the data to hunt for associates of terrorism suspects, but the bulk logs will stay in the hands of phone companies.
The newly disclosed information about the email records program is contained in a report by the NSA's inspector general that was obtained through a lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act. One passage lists four reasons the NSA decided to end the email program and purge previously collected data. Three were redacted, but the fourth was uncensored. It said that "other authorities can satisfy certain foreign intelligence requirements" that the bulk email records program "had been designed to meet."
They figured out how to replace the programs before they were shut down. That's why the programs were shut down in the first place.......
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
From your link to the Monticello
Comments: Neither this quotation nor any of its variant forms has been found in the writings of Thomas Jefferson.
What did they replace their email program with? Pine? Elm? Mutt? Eudora? Thunderbird? Outlook? Outlook Express? Citadel? Courier? Squirrelmail? Something else?
Gnus writing to a file processed by Thunderbird message passing to Seamonkey sent to an instance of Microsoft Entourage passing to Outlook Express in a VM that is forwarded to a qmail instance which delivers it to Kmail that encrypts it with GPG and sends it to mutt which ROT13 encodes it and converts it to morse to be punched on cards and delivered by snail mail.
Everyone calls it contractor.
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
You speak like the executive is one group. When I listen to Obama, he says the talking points he has been told. So so called 'anonymous' records, which I know are only technically anonymous, and trivial to de-anonymize, he claims as anonymous.
In the UK, we REJECTED Snoopers charter, and GCHQ then went on and did the mass surveillance anyway. They should NOT be spying on UK citizens or politicians, but claim they can and that's its legal. They haven't explained how its legal. Currently Theresa May, (appointed under this Stasi regime) is still trying to make it legal.
Its like the spooks are running the show, and these puppets are chosen by them.
Labour Leader, Jeremy Corbyn has a detailed GCHQ file (the Wilson doctrine has been disavoded so they can spy on politicians), and the Army head made it clear people shouldn't vote for him (Army chief went on TV in full dress uniform and warned people against voting for Labour claiming it would weaken UK). There are no doubt plenty of GCHQ people who feel the same and have the secret info on Corbyn. That is how bad it is getting now. They answer to NSA, but Parliament gets a fake cover story.
So you say 'executive', but really its a few managers in NSA and GCHQ that run the show, and THAT IS ONE STEP AWAY from a dictatorship.
The judiicary are supposed to protect us from these deluded power crazed idiots, but they are all but bypassed. FISA court judges FISA cases based on what its been told, not any independant policing of the spooks. That was how General Alexander was able to turn "spy on terrorists", into "spy on everyone" with seemingly the court being unaware. Well unaware till they read the news about all the giant datacenters being built.
Yeah, Jefferson was an incredible hypocrite. He's also one of the major reasons the U.S. Constitution has the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights, in turn, has done far more to promote liberty in the U.S. and the world at large than any other single thing in history. So, yes, I'll drink to the old bastard.
To paraphrase Jefferson: "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to listen to your every word and track your every move."
Whether Jefferson said it or not, it's also important to note that, no matter how much power you foolishly cede to the government, you still don't get everything you want. To me, at least, it's not really clear that you get much of anything in exchange.
The content's even worse.
found a way to create the functional equivalent of programs that had been shut down
In English a program is a software application, which makes the statement above sound seriously fucking impressive.
Turns out the article is talking about programmes, at which point it's merely just another aspect of the Police States of America.
Given their track record, it seems likely the NSA replaced one horribly overreaching program with another. But as far as I can tell, there's little or no evidence (yet) to tell us this new program is equally invasive of Americans' privacy - in fact, that report didn't seem to contain any details at all. While I am very skeptical of this, there is always the possibility they could find a way to accomplish this in a more targeted manner we would not find onerous.
Of course, the basic problem is - telling us what they're doing, in that case, would likely make such a new program worthless. And it's pointless for them to say "just trust us", since they thoroughly burned that bridge to the ground over the past twenty or so years. Not to mention that we can't trust Congress or the President to effectively oversee such a program and protect our constitutional rights, since they also have a demonstrated history of thoroughly abrogating their responsibility on that subject.
I'm not sure what the solution is, unfortunately.
#DeleteChrome
Find me a person who is not a hypocrite, and I'll show you a scoundrel.
Being a hypocrite merely means you have standards, and want to be better than you currently are.
Have you ever looked back at some code you've written, and said, "I should have done better on that code?" Now if you tell other people to not make the same mistake you did, suddenly you are a hypocrite. If "hypocrite" is the worst thing anyone can ever call you, then you've done a good job.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
At the altar of sacrosanct police and military spending you'll find the most anti-welfare-state, anti-public-infrastructure activists imaginable. And notice that its *private* services that always seem to be on the cutting edge of expanding surveillance in this country.
Police states form when the political class feels that police and military are the first and last resort to peace and prosperity. And they may resort to impoverishing the public to keep those police and soldiers well staffed and well fed.
It isn't illegal for Britain or Canada or Australia to collect email from Americans so the NSA just outsource the illegal collection.