Slashdot Mirror
Donald Trump Obliquely Backs a Federal Database To Track Muslims
HughPickens.com writes: Philip Bump reports at the Washington Post that Donald Trump confirmed to NBC on Thursday evening that he supports a database to track Muslims in the United States. The database of Muslims arose after an interview Yahoo News's Hunter Walker conducted with Trump earlier this week, during which he asked the Republican front-runner to weigh in on the current debate over refugees from Syria. "We're going to have to do things that we never did before," Trump told Walker. "Some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule." When pressed on whether these measures might include tracking Muslim Americans in a database or noting their religious affiliations on identification cards, Trump would not go into detail — but did not reject the options. Trump's reply? "We're going to have to — we're going to have to look at a lot of things very closely," he said. "We're going to have to look at the mosques. We're going to have to look very, very carefully." After an event on in Newton, Iowa, on Thursday night, NBC's Vaughn Hillyard pressed the point. "Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims here in this country?," Hillyard asked. "There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases" Trump said. "We should have a lot of systems." Hillyard asked about implementation, including the process of adding people to the system. "Good management procedures," Trump said. Sign people up at mosques, Hillyard asked? "Different places," Trump replied. "You sign them up at different places. But it's all about management."
No dog in this hunt. I don't live in the USA.
I agree with you. I've listened to several of the in-context interviews and read some transcripts. The interpenetration of his comments is political.
He didn't say what folks are saying he said and I don't think he meant the things that folks are saying he meant.
I am close enough to death to be immune to any economic damage to me regardless of who becomes President of the USA. My federal pensions will not go down because I am a baby boomer and if you screw with our federal pensions, you probably won't get re-elected. I have some non-government income sources which allows for trips and toys but I can have a warm dry place to sleep and sufficient food, Internet, etc, on a governemt pension.
The wrong guy might get me killed earlier than I would have died of natural causes but I think that is remote.
From my own, watching from (somewhat) afar, I would like to see, Trump, Carson or Sanders become president. Not just for entertainment value (although that would be abundant) , but because it would mean the American Citizens authorized this President.
My Dad, WWII vet, once said to me, "I love Britain but I hate the British. I hate America but I love the Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burka_Avenger
So a female teacher who is pro-empowerment is actively trying to stop kids from education?
I hope that ;) was to say the whole sentence was a joke...
http://www.nbcnews.com/politic...
He is explicitly asked should there be a Muslim-tracking database system to which he replies the whole nonsense about "There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases" and "signing up at different places" when asked about signing people up at mosques.
Nobody is putting words in his mouth.
He IS an idiot that does not think or listen to other people and talks in thought-terminating cliches but he clearly understood those questions and replied to them in his poorly thought through manner.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
Yes, lets look up revisionist history, recent to oldest...
Civil Rights Act, filibustered by DNC KKK member Robert Byrd, who died an honored DNC member just a few years ago. Would have passed 30 years earlier except for the DNC kept refusing to let it up for a vote.
Joe McCarthy, blacklised Hollywood actors ran HUAC... HUAC was in the House, McCarthy was a Senator with nothing to do with it. His "list" contained ONLY state department employees that he thought might be USSR spies and he was forced to release the list before he could find proof. He didn't want to release it and hurt people's reputation, but the DNC Senate majority leader of the time forced him. Who ran HUAC in the House? The DNC.
End of slavery was a GOP issue, actually the ONLY GOP issue and the reason the party started. Lincoln, the first GOP president ended slavery running on that as his main issue. The DNC hated him so much they started the Civil War. Can you believe that shit? The DNC started a civil war to keep slaves because that evil GOP wanted to end slavery?
How about them apples for revisionist history? Want more?
Dixicrats after the Civil Rights act passed wanted segregation. Of the 60 or so Dixicrats who thought blacks still shouldn't be allowed to be equal all but 4 of the 60 went back to the DNC for life. 1 went to the GOP, and a few years later a second went to the GOP. One of their leaders? Al Gore Sr.
Yep, revisionist history buff here.
The Koran has its 5 pillars and never really comes away from conversion by force unto death if necessary.
The five pillars being profession of faith, prayer, charity, fasting during Ramadan, and pilgrimage. Meanwhile from the bible (also a Muslim holy book, I should note):
Deuteronomy 17:
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
If you want some new testament:
Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
No,the Supreme Court ruled it's not unconstitutional, so it's not... like it or not thats how it works.
That's why its so dangerous to allow people like Bush or Trump or Carson in the Presidency, they get to appoint Supreme Court justices which may serve for decades after they are gone. They can do a lot more damage the just the 8 years they might get in office.
> And the "wackadoodles" have been doing this for literally millenia.
You are suffering from confirmation bias. It isn't the religion part that makes people do horrible things - Khmer Rouge, Stalin and Mao are all examples of secularist committing mind-numbing atrocities.
Furthermore there are an overwhelming number of counter-examples, of religionists doing immense amounts of good in the world.
The problem is the "wackadoodle" part and they will always be attracted to power structures religious or otherwise. To focus on religion is to miss the point that the problem is human nature and as long as we are human that's what we have to keep focus on.