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Microsoft Pulls Windows 10 November Update (1511) ISOs (zdnet.com)
AmiMoJo writes: When Microsoft released Windows 10 version 1511 earlier this month, the company also updated the installer files it delivers via a free, downloadable media creation tool (MCT). That upgrade option worked as advertised for more than a week. This weekend, however, the new files have been pulled and the media creation tool available for download from that page instead installs the July 2015 (build 10240) release. A Microsoft spokesperson confirmed they wish people install the older version and get the 1551 update via Windows Update. The more recent release is still available via an unpublished link (EXE download).
Dear M$,
the most frustrating part of installing a fresh windows system is the updates.
Stop making it even more frustrating.
Who is using Windows10?
The people who were "accidentally" forced to "upgrade" to Windows 10, for one. Thanks MS! Supporting my aging parents from 1200 miles away is fun!
I updated all my PCs to Windows 10, starting with the laptop that was running 8.1 anyway. Inevitably there will be software and hardware that just isn't supported on Windows 7, whether intentionally or by accident, and I see no reason to stay behind when the update was free. Windows 10 cleaned up some of the annoyances I had with using 8.1 on a laptop (the Metro screen and Charms bar for instance), and the remainder are hardly an issue.
And regarding the idea that everybody under 30 uses a phone or tablet, sure they use phones, but I don't see many tablets out there, and laptops are practically a requirement for a college education these days, so that whole group of (under 30) people uses a Mac or PC computer as well.
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So essentially they're still using everyone as beta testers, releasing shitty untested software, hiding what updates actually do, and taking away our choice if we want to install this shit or not.
Sorry, Microsoft ... we're not your damned beta testers.
This whole bullshit of "we're going to install Windows 10 on your machine whether you like it or not" has to go. At this point, you really can't trust that any given update from Microsoft isn't the one which is going to start installing Windows 10 and screw up you computer. And, as much as they seem to think otherwise, if it your computer.
Hey, Microsoft ... why don't you shove Windows 10 up your ass, instead of trying to shove it up ours?
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
A hair more use Windows 10 than OSX currently. About 4 times as many as use Linux. Over 5 times as many use Windows 7, and still more people use XP than any version of windows except 7.
Not necessarily ecstatic about the numbers, but the numbers say that Windows 10 is more relevant than OSX if you want to talk about by usage. This is an OS that's only been available for 4 months from the perspective of most people, and contrary to the way it was discussed in the media, the Windows 10 upgrade in Windows 7 actually is being pretty conservative about upgrading (I have a Windows 7 system that does not prompt, and in fact when I go to explicitly check after a Windows 10 update it still says 'please check back later to see if your platform is validated'. I had updated another system against that recommendation, but am keeping that one in that state just to see how long it would take or if MS would ever 'validate' that platform. So getting close to Windows 8.1 share this quickly is not too shabby by MS standards.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Pull back the ISO and get that in there.
ONLY because it's free. If people had to pay $79.99 for it the adoption rate would be 1/50th of what it is today
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Who is using Windows10?
The people who were "accidentally" forced to "upgrade" to Windows 10, for one. Thanks MS! Supporting my aging parents from 1200 miles away is fun!
You need modded up.
Can you imagine in your wildest dreams that 20 years after Microsoft introduced W95, that they are in the hand-cranked automobile/manual choke phase of computing?
There is just no way this kind of thing should still be going on. I'm on my third total OS upgrade on my iMac. All went seamlessly. My Wife's Linux Mint laptop is being administered by her, and has only required 1 reboot after a total OS update in the couple years since switching from W8.1.
That W10 machine I'm experimenting with? Almost pretty good. But the same old Windows update crapshoot as always. Now that most people have no choice in the update matter, your computer simply is going to be borked. Even the shills have to be getting tired of this.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Businesses still run Windows. Only two, of our dozens of business customers, have a Windows 10 PC. We strongly encourage all of our customer to put off until June 2016 to consider an upgrade from Windows 7. At that time we'll likely suggest that they stay on Windows 10 unless MS changes the terrible system they have in place for updating. We also ask them to uncheck the Windows update setting for installing Recommended updates. Recommended updates are no longer legitimate updates in the sense of historical WIndows updates that actually were intended to improve the OS you were running and not change it to one that is still unpolished. The new update mechanism is so inferior to the old service pack model that it's pitiful
That said, when my parents tried to update their aging laptop from Win7 to Win10, it locked the machine in an infinite reboot cycle, requiring me to make a 400 mile round-trip to fix it and (eventually) get it back to Win7.
I hear so many experiences like this from Windows users.
I used to deal with it myself when my sister-without telling me, bought my father a Vista Basic machine to replace the system I had set up in his house, and of course I got to maintain the POS. Much cgasoline used and many hours.
One thing I do know for certain is Windows users seldom take those long trips and wasted hours into account when they brag about how much money they save over those "expensive Macs".
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I'm not sure that's a haiku, but it is 4 poetic lines running straight to Godwin!
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Microsoft carefully engineered it that way by removing your "rational choices" until there was only one (unless you count switching to a decent OS, an option you seem to have missed.)
You could buy a computer with "a decent OS" for $1000 at apple.com, and people in your household would have to wait their turn to use it. Or you could buy two computers with Windows for $500 and a lot less waiting. Unless you're specifically developing apps for OS X or iOS, which is more rational?
A bit of advice for folks with aging parents who get "Win 10'd"...call the local repair shops in their area! We deal with aging customers all the time, many of us are more than happy to do house calls, and its a HELL of a lot easier for you to simply call the shop and say "Mom has got an issue, please fix it" than it is to spend who knows how many hours on the phone trying to walk somebody who doesn't know computers through a rollback. We can also set up an automated backup routine so if they click the wrong link or make a major mistake they won't lose everything, nothing will break your heart more than having to tell somebody those pics of a long dead relative they didn't have any copies of are gone forever because they didn't have backups.
So consider this a wakeup call, if your folks could have been "Win10'd" they could have gotten a LOT worse, call the local shops, compare rates, and have one set up a backup routine for them. Its a hell of a lot cheaper to just get a USB drive and have the local shop guy help them out than to find out they ended up getting ransomware or some other nasty.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Go here:
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ and download the GWX Control Panel. That will remove it as well as the downloaded install files. Not my code, but it worked for me.
Where did I say everybody under the age of 30 goes to college? When I said 'that whole group' I was referring to people who do go to college (who are 99% under 30 after all). You're hearing what you want to hear. GP made it sound as if nobody under 30 uses a computer. I was just pointing out that is not a valid assumption.
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OSX is a decent OS. Linux is a decent OS. Windows is a decent OS. People manage to use all of the above productively. Make you own choice but don't act as if others aren't allowed to make theirs.
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The GWX (get windows 10) Control Panel is a great tool. It lets you kill everything associated with the W10 upgrade. You can pick it up at several places including NeoWin.net.
http://www.neowin.net/news/gwx...
I noticed that Windows 7 Ultimate (basically Windows 7 Enterprise edition for consumers) is selling for $300 over at eBay now. Should tell you something.
A brain is a terrible thing to waste... Mind? That's debatable.
and I see no reason to stay behind when the update was free. Windows 10
I can see at least a few reasons for staying with Windows 7 vs. going to Windows 10. Can't you?
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
So it says nothing that Windows 10 is free, and people are paying $300 for the old version? And as I recall my copy of Windows 7 Ultimate was something like $239 when new.
A brain is a terrible thing to waste... Mind? That's debatable.
Before Microsoft pulled the upgrade, I tried to install it on four perfectly-functioning domain-connected computers. It failed every time, causing old issues (explorer.exe immediately crashing every time it starts) and new ones (start button ignores mouse clicks, Cortana fails, start panel blank). In each case, I was forced to do a clean re-install to get build 10586 to work. Since Microsoft is not explaining its reasons for pulling the upgrade, we are entitled to speculate. Here’s my guess: Restricting the upgrade to Windows Update is a way of delaying it without having to publically acknowledge pervasive problems with it. I suspect that they have temporarily stopped providing it via Windows Update as well and that they are madly trying to fix it before anyone notices the delay. Clue: the upgrade is not available via Windows Update on any of the 25 Windows 10 computers I administer, even though build 10240 was installed on them months ago.