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FAA To Drone Owners: Get Ready To Register To Fly (networkworld.com)

coondoggie writes: While an actual rule could be months away, drones weighing about 9 ounces or more will apparently need to be registered with the Federal Aviation Administration going forward. The registration requirement and other details came form the government’s UAS Task Force which was created by the FAA last month and featured all manner of associates from Google, the Academy of Model Aeronautics and Air Line Pilots Association to Walmart, GoPro and Amazon. “By some estimates, as many as 400,000 new unmanned aircraft will be sold during the holiday season. Pilots with little or no aviation experience will be at the controls of many of these aircraft. Many of these new aviators may not even be aware that their activities in our airspace could be dangerous to other aircraft -- or that they are, in fact, pilots once they start flying their unmanned aircraft,” said FAA Administrator Michael Huerta in announcing the task force’s results.

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  1. Re:What purpose does registration serve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) It will allow them to send you information about your legal obligations and operating restrictions as a drone pilot;
    2) It will allow them to identify the owner of a drone if that drone crashes into something and causes damage;

    Can somebody please explain to me how "registering your drone" is some kind of unbelievable infringement on your human rights? You have to get licensed to own a gun, drive a car, and you have to register to vote. Why is it such a strange idea that you might, when operating something that could hurt or kill other people, and which almost certainly operates in public spaces, you take affirmative steps to understand the regulations relative to your new hobby?

    I bet that almost every one of you cunts whining about registration is also a rabid fan of the idea of draconian gun control measures.

  2. Re:What purpose does registration serve? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Back in antiquity, I had to "register" to get a "bikes on trains" permit to carry my bike on the metro. It was a nominal $5 fee (covered the cost of the photograph) and a royal pain to go to the downtown office to get the permit, but the whole point was to educate the permitee about the dos and don'ts of carrying your bike on the metro. Then, whenever somebody it being a bonehead with their bike on the metro, the officials can say either: a) "You need to have a permit to do that, go get it." saving themselves all effort at education on-the-spot, or b) "I see you have a permit, but you obviously didn't pay attention to the training." and possibly revoke the permit on-the-spot, forcing the ex-permitee to jump more hoops to get it reinstated.

    Hunting and fishing licenses are a similar game, though their fees are higher, and annual. The presumption is that you will learn what you're supposed to know as a licensee - though, in practice, they're mostly just an annual fee.

    Registering drones, like registering handguns, will give some traceability to the bits of electronic junk that get lost in hard to get to locations inside state/national parks, and on other people's private land. It might make some operators a little more careful and a little more aware of the impacts their toy can have. I don't think it's much about keeping them out of the flightpath of commercial airliners, I think it is about making the owners more accountable for less serious bone-headdedness.

  3. Re:I hope... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Next up - registering your kite. After all, it fits their definition of a remotely controlled aircraft ...

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  4. Re:What purpose does registration serve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Show me where in the Constitution, or in the Air Commerce Act, the FAA was given authority over all airspace in the U.S.

    Of course, you're aware that those are not the only laws governing the operation, authority, and structure of the FAA, right? In fact, the law in question that gives the FAA the authority to regulate drones is the "FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012," specifically, Title III, Subtitle B, "Unmanned Aircraft Systems," in which Congress specifically directs the FAA as follows:

    Not later than 270 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Transportation, in consultation with representatives of the aviation industry, Federal agencies that employ unmanned aircraft systems technology in the national airspace system, and the unmanned aircraft systems industry, shall develop a comprehensive plan to safely accelerate the integration of civil unmanned aircraft systems into the national airspace system.

    They go on to specify in quite a bit of detail exactly what must be covered in such a plan. So, let's pick your question back up:

    Are you asserting that Congress doesn't have any authority to make this law, and delegate enforcement of it to the FAA? If so, then perhaps you could share for us your legal rationale, rather than spouting off generalized inanities that demonstrate your lack of knowledge about aviation. If not, then perhaps you can take your claims that the FAA has "no lawful authority" over you, and shove them up your ass.

  5. (empty) weight has worked for aircraf for a long t by raymorris · · Score: 3, Informative

    Weight is an extremely important and controlling parameter for aircraft. It has worked well as an important parameter for classification. For example, the smaller two classes of manned aircraft are called Ultralight and Light Sport Aircraft.

    "Maximum" speed, range, and altitude are less useful because they are highly variable under different conditions and impossible to test for a true maximum. Maximum design ratings are used, but weight it the major criterion, the criterion that the classes are named after.

    The FAA also regulates lighter-than-air craft such as hot air balloons and blimps. It turns out that by using the EMPTY weight of the craft, you totally avoid the issue of filling it with helium balloons- and the trick of having the gas tank only 1/4 full when it's weighed. They are all measured empty, and it's the empty weight the classifications are based on.

  6. Re:I hope... by jpapon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This happens with every technology when the barrier to entry is significantly lowered. I'm sure early automobile enthusiasts felt the same way about the Model-T ruining their happy-go-lucky days of driving without licenses.

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  7. quads brought noobs. by raymorris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I first joined AMA 30 years ago. I've flown fixed wing, helicopters, and rockets. I've also climbed into something slightly larger and flown it. My next purchase will probably be a quad. I don't think that owning a quad will make me become stupid. The craft is not the problem.

    The AMA used to work with manufacturers and retailers to have a very strong presence- every $12 kit included AMA information in the package. The AMA managed to reach a high enough percentage of purchasers that most were well-behaved.

    Quads brought a ton of new people into the hobby and the existing community hasn't reached them effectively. Part of that is probably because models (other than rockets) used to be harder to fly, so newbies NEEDED an experienced pilot to train them. Clueless newbies who wouldn't learn from others quickly destroyed their new toys.

    On the other hand, rockets could be flown without training, yet AMA dis a good job of getting the message of responsibility out to rocketers. How can this (large) new generation of flyers be reached and educated? Blaming it on the number of props won't do the trick, of course.

    1. Re:quads brought noobs. by TWX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Quads brought a ton of new people into the hobby and the existing community hasn't reached them effectively. Part of that is probably because models (other than rockets) used to be harder to fly, so newbies NEEDED an experienced pilot to train them. Clueless newbies who wouldn't learn from others quickly destroyed their new toys.

      I've got a secret for you- your hobby is experiencing its own Eternal September, and you never will reach those clueless newbies unless regulation forces them to actually apprentice with someone experienced. You could even look upon it as two separate hobbies- the older hobby for scale-model aircraft or scale-model-type aircraft that requires a significant degree of skill to participate in without constantly spending large sums of money to replace destroyed equipment, and another hobby for the inexperienced that only want a casual hobby, or want to use the equipment as a means for some greater hobby that can benefit from it.

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  8. Re:Exactly what part do you register? by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yourself. The person is registered in a new federal database. The registration number "must be affixed to the aircraft" and "marking must be readily accessible and maintained in a condition that is readable and legible upon close visual inspection".
    Its all about the person and connecting them to any and all drones in use. A demand for photo ID does the rest.

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  9. Because the question is stupid! by Gription · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The constitution VERY SPECIFICALLY doesn't address specific regulations. Those are generated by LAWS. The constitution does give a very firm guide for how we are to come up with laws. Things like electing officials to create and maintain laws and having people in official capacities to enact those laws.
    Staying awake during junior high and high school social studies classes would have avoided this incredible lack of knowledge. (If there wasn't the benefit of a proper education then there is a valid excuse for such ignorance.)

    It is just as inane to say "Show me where in the constitution it says that police can enforce speed limits!" People really don't need to loudly proclaim their ignorance and supporting their ignorance makes a statement too...