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"Clock Boy" Ahmed Mohamed Seeking $15 Million In Damages
phrackthat writes: The family of Ahmed Mohamed, the boy who was arrested in Irving, Texas has threatened to sue the school and the city of Irving if they do not pay him $15 million as compensation for his arrest. To refresh the memories of everyone, Ahmed's clock was a clock he disassembled then put into a pencil case that looked like a miniature briefcase. He was briefly detained by the Irving city police to interview him and determine if he intended for his clock to be perceived as a fake bomb. He was released to his parents later on that day and they publicized the matter and claimed Ahmed was arrested because of "Islamophobia".
Ok, I liked Clock Boy but this is just dumb. And $15 million? I sure hope he plans on donating a lot of that to science
throw the baby out. The bathwater is cold
The school certainly overreacted, but...
1) the kid was not arrested, nor did he suffer any "damages" in light of the celebrity and overly-friendly treatment from the President, and
2) once the jury hears about his overly-activist father and the lawyer's insinuation that the whole thing was a set-up?
I'm not seeing this one going very far.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
How much more American can you get?
F-ing moneygrabbers, they got a lot of positive attention because of it, he had his 15 minutes of fame..
No way the school district is going to pay 15 mill to this family that has already emigrated to Qatar. It will probably cost a few thousands in lawyer fees. On the other hand, that clock boy is going to lose all sympathy from most people. It lends credence to the accusation that the boy's father, a presidential candidate in south sudan or chad or some such place is quite media savvy and has manipulated the media and gamed the system.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
I am sure that this is all his own idea and no lawyers were involved in the decision to sue for $15 million.
Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed and Robert Spencer once debated on the topic, “Does Islam Respect Human Rights?” The results were so bad for him that after the debate, The American Muslim pleaded with Muslims not to debate Spencer. In any case, this debate is one indication that Mohamed Elhassan has been trying for several years to make his bones as a warrior against “Islamophobia.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8BLtBFeyyo
The debate starts at 31:48, after an interview with Walid Phares. On a separate note, this Sudanese Islamic activist once claimed that that incident would “spread Islam” in America
That kid may have been innocent, but his father is an Islamic activist trying to intimidate anyone who has any concerns about Islamic activism.
This whole story since the day after the incident reads like a script from exactly what the tinfoil hat crowd said would happen. His father is laughing all the way to the bank and laughing at the foolishness of gullible Americans. They not only duped the SJW crowd, but even duped Obama, and they have already cashed in on their successful plan and sounds like they will continue to do so via a lawsuit. Even though there weren't any actual damages, it will be cheaper for the school district to settle, and then raise taxes so that they can afford to keep the school functioning for the other students in the district.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
The school certainly overreacted, but...
1) the kid was not arrested
Yes, he was. He was taken away from the school by the police in handcuffs. That's an arrest.
I think what you meant to say was, the kid was not charged. That's correct. He was arrested, but released without charges.
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Clock Boy: I was arrested for making something that was designed to look like a bomb. Even though this was made illegal so that the cops wouldn't have to spend all of their time chasing down false alarms, I still want $15 million.
Judge Me: This is pretty much the most frivolous lawsuit that has ever come across my desk. I'm fining you $15 million for filing such a frivolous lawsuit. If you fail to come up with the $15 million in the next 5 minutes, you will be spending all day, every day making little rocks out of big rocks until you do come up with the $15 million. Case dismissed. Have a nice day.
Perhaps this case will be dismissed or jury will decide not to award damages.
However this will be an example. There was a story recently where two arab speaking US citizens were not admitted to the plane, because somebody feared.
http://news.yahoo.com/two-men-kept-boarding-us-plane-speaking-arabic-023330187.html
These two fellow American,s US citizens would have been better off recording the encounter, missing the plane and then suing for bona fide discrimination and would have won big time.
This paranoia needs to stop and one or two cases with proper settlements would help.
Yes, suing a school just de-funds the school, but what is the option? How else can you force the school to come to terms with the fact that it's principal is a braying ass? You're not allowed to sue a school to force it to re-train or replace a bad teacher or administrator.
...since they'd removed the cuffs, and she asked them to re-cuff him to she could take the much-ballyhoo'd picture? Surely being re cuffed induced some of his "suffering"?
For those countering the suspicion that surrounded this kid's actions with "why would he possibly put himself through this? What did he have to gain?"...there's 15 million reasons for you.
-Styopa
I keep trying to play on the relentless oppression of my German people since the Roman empire and how this is a crime that hasn't been addressed and has been repeated over the centuries, from the 100 years war, the Napoleonic wars, the anti-German discrimination against German Americans during and after WW I, the internment of Germans during WW II.
My people are being picked on, and it's been going on FOR MILLENNIA and I deserve a check in the mail.
The kid and his dad are provocateurs who deliberately baited the school teachers. Dad's sounds like he's been wanting to leave for a long time, probably spent his time dreaming this s**t up. They get nothing and need their visas pulled as undesirable aliens.
This smells like bullshit to me.
The school district acted inappropriately. A written apology is warranted. But even I want to tell the kid's family to GTFO at that price tag.
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Want to bring it to the White House?
It's a good story and all, but is it true?
He was not making a alarm clock - as was widely reported.
Rather, he took an off-the-shelf alarm clock, and made it look like a bomb. He did this very deliberately.
Should the school have ignored, what could have been a bomb, because the kid was a Muslim?
What sort of litigation would there have been if it was a bomb, and the school did nothing?
Of course you do. But that's only because almost every person believes that THEIR opinion is a "reasonable" one.
I remember back in the day (I'm old) when a student would bring something distracting to school the teacher would confiscate it and the student collect it at the end of the day.
At worst, a student's parents would be called in.
But students were never arrested for bringing toys to school. That's just stupid.
... the kid was not arrested ...
Purely on a factual level, yes he was arrested, after being questioned for an hour and a half (how is that even possible?), and was taken to a detention centre, fingerprinted, photographed, and questioned further.
He was not charged. Possibly that's what you meant.
Bringing a hoax bomb to school is illegal. Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple Computer, was arrested and spent some hours with law enforcement when he brought a hoax bomb to his high school. A box that ticked, and then ticked faster when it was moved.
As for whether what this kid did was a hoax bomb, any Iraqi / Afghanistan vet can explain to you how the detonators of IEDs are sometimes made from the components of off-the-shelf consumer devices. So, its not unreasonable to see disassembled clock parts in a negative light.
Would it have happened to someone who isn't brown skinned I don't know, ...
Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple Computer knows. He was arrested as a high school student for having a hoax bomb. A bomb that "ticked" and then "ticked faster" when moved.
The police don't have to prove that anyone thought it was a bomb. They only have to show that there was probable cause to believe that Ahmed intended for the device to be perceived as a bomb. Given that his sister had been suspended for threatening to blow up the school and Ahmed had been suspended just two days prior at another school and the fact that the clock was not his design and clearly not intended to function as a clock (as the housing, which looked like a briefcase, would keep one from reading the clock face), they should have little to no problem to show probable cause (which under the law is not 51% probability, just a substantial possibility).
Who is responsible for my fear of snakes? Venomous snakes.
Who is responsible for my Islamophobia? Jihadists/Islamic "extremists"/Islamic terrorists.
If Muslims want to decry rampant Islamophobia, they should stop being the assholes of planet Earth.
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All started with arrest of a young man at school for a hand-made, digital clock brought to school. Ended up not being that hand-made, was just some reassembly of some parts. Not much interesting, actually.
It caught attention due to alledged racism or religion issues (still to be confirmed?). Even the White House and President of USA have spoken on behalf of this young, intelligent man.
Which apparently was not that intelligent, techically speaking.
And now he seeks damages of, what ? 15 million ?
I would agree if he'd seek for 5 to 10K. But even then, after all publicity he got around him, probably not so much.
There's a word for what he (his family) is seeking. The word is "extorsion".
He had it (a plausible reason). He lost it. Nohing more to see here, really.
What, PRECISELY does him being a Monk have to do with religion not being antithetical to science? Because science means questioning (and looking for the answers in evidence, IOW "that which is seen"), ...
Yeah, the scientific method, guess what ... in Europe various members of the clergy were partly responsible for its widespread adoption. A bishop in London comes to mind, don't recall the name. Sorry, most Christian denominations don't see science and religion as being in conflict, they study orthogonal topics. These religions specifically state that the discoveries of science, the observations of the workings of nature, are not in conflict with faith.
I defended this kid before, thinking that it sucks to get misunderstood and just because his dad is an obnoxious pot stirring lawyer doesn't mean the kid had anything to do with it but this is just stupid. I hope they get counter sued and lose hard.
The Daddy casts sleep on the Baby. The Baby resists!
That just stupid. They should of blown him up, then said that he suicided himself with his briefcase bomb.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
He didn't win first prize and didn't bump off a teenage kid who created an ebola detection kit. He hogged the spotlight, that's fair criticism but it's very different than what was claimed.
Islam isn't busy murdering people with robot planes in Central American, on the other side of the planet from where they live. Islam didn't bomb two hospitals in two months. Islam hasn't overthrown democracies around the planet.
So again....self awareness much?
Being arrested requires that charges be filed. Ahmed was not arrested and not charged with any crimes, he was detained. Your twenty minutes is plucked out of the air and meaningless. Twenty minutes for a vehicle stop? Okay. Twenty minutes for charges relating to weapons or drugs? No way is that twenty minutes. The legal limit varies, but 24 hours is generally the limit that you can be detained without having charges filed (at which point you are arrested).
Ahmed was hauled off and _DETAINED_ for a reason. YOU may not agree with the reasoning, but that does not mean there was no basis. How people keep modding this lie up when law dictionaries are pretty easy to find is astounding (https://www.law.cornell.edu/). Well, not really.. it suits a narrative.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
You... you... you've insulted me. I'm hurt. I hurt, and my soul hurts!
Here's $15,000,000.00
Oh, now I'm OK!
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Gotta love muslims*. Move to a certain country ostensibly for a better future, then try to change that country and society to be the same as the one left behind.
I know one shouldn't blame the victim, but in many cases the so-called victims of islama"phobia" weren't just innocently walking along minding their own business.... And I for one feel it is very applicable to also take a hard and critical look at the victim's actions that led to them wanting to be labeled victims.
* = I also know I shouldn't stereotype and should have probably written "some muslims". It's just so sad that the daeshbag minority is so visible and vocal, while the silent, conservative, hard-working, intelligent, empathic majority are quietly working along being productive members of the societies they find themselves in.
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