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How Black Friday and Cyber Monday Are Losing Their Meaning (time.com)

HughPickens.com writes: Brad Tuttle reports at Money Magazine that while the terms "Black Friday" and "Cyber Monday" are more ubiquitous than ever, the importance of the can't-miss shopping days is undeniably fading. Retailers seem to want it both ways: They want shoppers to spend money long before these key shopping events, and yet they also want shoppers to turn out in full force to make purchases over the epic Black Friday weekend. When they use the "Cheap Stuff!" card day after day and week after week, the deals on any single day stop seeming special. Add to that the trend of manufacturers creating stripped-down versions of their electronics to sell on Black Friday, and consumers have less reason than ever to flood retail stores.

The true story behind Black Friday is not as sunny as retailers might have you believe. Back in the 1950s, police in the city of Philadelphia used the term to describe the chaos that ensued on the day after Thanksgiving, when hordes of suburban shoppers and tourists flooded into the city in advance of the big Army-Navy football game held on that Saturday every year. Shoplifters would also take advantage of the bedlam in stores to make off with merchandise, adding to the law enforcement headache. Sometime in the late 1980s, however, retailers found a way to reinvent Black Friday and turn it into something that reflected positively, rather than negatively, on them and their customers. The result was the "red to black" concept of the holiday mentioned earlier, and the notion that the day after Thanksgiving marked the occasion when America's stores finally turned a profit.

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  1. Good riddance by hackertourist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the sooner those preposterous feeding frenzies are history, the better.

    1. Re:Good riddance by kheldan · · Score: 2
      I second the motion. The Holiday Season lost any real 'social meaning' a long, long time ago.

      You can't show you really care about someone unless you spend money on them!

      That's the message they keep selling us. In my opinion you're smarter if you stopped buying into that decades ago.

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    2. Re:Good riddance by hackertourist · · Score: 2

      Says the guy publishing his opinion on a public forum.

  2. Speaking for myself... by mark-t · · Score: 4, Informative

    .... and possibly for others who were in the area at the time who lost friends or family to the event, this is what I shall forever associate with "Black Friday": link.

  3. Works for me by jbmartin6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "manufacturers creating stripped-down versions of their electronics" Good, as long as the spyware and useless crap is stripped out.

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    1. Re:Works for me by jbmartin6 · · Score: 2

      Ha ha from TFA: "Most notably, Best Buy's model lacks smart TV features"

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    2. Re:Works for me by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Am I the only person who wants my smart features outside my TV?

      Far from; my TV is essentially a monitor ... it takes HDMI input from my amp, and otherwise has NO part in anything other than passively displaying what is sent to it.

      It doesn't change channels, it doesn't change the volume (in fact it doesn't even make sound). It sure as hell doesn't connect to the internet or do anything 'smart'.

      I see no value at all in any of these 'smart' features. I have other devices better suited to the job, and which I trust more.

      Just because marketing thinks I want a 'smart TV' doesn't mean I give a shit.

      It's just one more annoying place where they can try to put ads, collect my information, and try to take a cut by 'monetizing' my TV experience. Yeah, thanks but no thanks.

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    3. Re:Works for me by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      Personally, I used to have the same opinion. But then I bought a Smart TV. There was no TV with the specifications I was looking for that also wasn't a smart TV. So I bought one. After using it for a while, I decided that I didn't need a Roku, or a computer hooked directly to my TV. The TV had Netflix, Youtube, and DLNA built in. So I can watch Netfix, Youtube, and even stream videos from PLEX without having a device hooked in to my TV. It also has Miracast so I can stream stuff directly from my tablet or laptop. My TV does everything I need the TV to do without requiring an extra box. Sure, someday I'll stop getting updates, and maybe I'll eventually need to add a box for supporting new features and services. But until that time I'll continue to use the features built into my TV, because they actually do work as advertised, and I only have to worry about a single remote to access all the features.

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    4. Re:Works for me by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Informative

      And in the meantime it is sending bog-knows-what to who-knows-what. I think I'll pass....

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  4. What 'meaning'? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These aren't days with any real significance other than the usual "quick, come buy shit".

    It's not like these dates have any significance, and they're pretty much entirely fabricated by and for retail industries for their own benefit.

    I've been hearing ads talking about "Black Friday Week Savings" ... whatever. It's just marketing hype and bullshit.

    Yo Dawg, we hear you like sales, so we have a pre-sale so you can buy stuff while you're waiting for the sale where you can buy stuff before the next sale, for which we'll have a pre-sale and hype it even more.

    Sorry, but just because corporations want a two month long shopping frenzy doesn't mean we need to care.

    Stop buying shit you don't need because some asshole in marketing is telling you need to run out today and buy it. How did these clowns get everyone acting like trained fucking monkeys?

    I'm so glad we've given up on the whole Christmas gift thing ... pretty much from before Halloween until middle of January it's one big, over-hyped retail cycle which has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING except corporate profits and pointless consumerism.

    Losing their meaning -- what a pathetic statement.

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    1. Re:What 'meaning'? by sjames · · Score: 2

      I just wish they would at least confine it to Friday. By letting it seep into thursday, they're causing quite a few dismal Thanksgiving dinners for the family of people who have to work.

  5. BLACK Friday? That's just racist! by mmell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can't we just say that all Fridays matter?

  6. It's important to keep Christ in Christmas. by mmell · · Score: 2

    Letting him get out all over the rest of the year just ruins everything.

    1. Re:It's important to keep Christ in Christmas. by Scarletdown · · Score: 2

      And if people want to put Christ in Christmas, they would be celebrating during late Summer or sometime in the Fall instead.

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    2. Re:It's important to keep Christ in Christmas. by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      But if you do that, you won't be able to co-opt the Roman holiday of Saturnalia.

      Personally, I think we should bring back Saturnalia.

    3. Re:It's important to keep Christ in Christmas. by Scarletdown · · Score: 2

      Could it be that the above is the true reason, or at least one of the more valid reasons, for the season?

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    4. Re:It's important to keep Christ in Christmas. by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Well, given the the holiday is a winter solstice holiday, which people have celebrated probably since the dawn of agriculture, and it was originally a week long and involved temporarily suspending normal social rules, I'd say that was absolutely the primary reason for the holiday, as well as honoring the great Saturn.

  7. Black Friday emblematic of wider econimic issues by JoeyRox · · Score: 2

    There is an analog between how the Christmas holiday season keeps getting pushed earlier into the year vs the current disfunction of the economy as a whole. Both are attempting to compensate for poor performance by pulling forward whatever demand there is. For retail this means earlier and deeper sales. For the economy it means greater (and longer duration) fiscal and economic stimulus.

  8. Re:The violence haven't gone away... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    And ruin a brand new crockpot? Are you nuts?!

  9. DOOR BUSTER SALES! by KatchooNJ · · Score: 2

    Boy, I so hate that term. It conotates everything that is wrong with this whole Black Friday thing.

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  10. Re:For Catholics by quantizationnoise · · Score: 3, Informative

    You're confusing it with "Good Friday".