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Greenwald: Why the CIA Is Smearing Edward Snowden After Paris Attacks (latimes.com)

JoeyRox points out that Glenn Greenwald has some harsh words for the CIA in an op-ed piece for the LA Times. From the article: "Decent people see tragedy and barbarism when viewing a terrorism attack. American politicians and intelligence officials see something else: opportunity. Bodies were still lying in the streets of Paris when CIA operatives began exploiting the resulting fear and anger to advance long-standing political agendas. They and their congressional allies instantly attempted to heap blame for the atrocity not on Islamic State but on several preexisting adversaries: Internet encryption, Silicon Valley's privacy policies and Edward Snowden."

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  1. Good old fashioned crisis management... by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."

    Rahm Emanuel

    Aren't politics grand? Gotta further an agenda while the corpses are still warm. (You lose impact any other way, you see.) /s

    1. Re:Good old fashioned crisis management... by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Seems to me it's closer to paraphrasing. On top of that, the elaborated sentence can also imply that if you know that a crisis exists and you postpone it for whatever reason(time/public backlash/money/others don't believe it's urgent/etc), you can then use that opportunity to implement things that you wouldn't be able to do so before. That also includes implementing things that the general public would find highly objectionable, but would allow in a crisis moment. Or to ram though legislation that would have failed previously.

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    2. Re:Good old fashioned crisis management... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know... the Paris attacks showed that the CIA as an organization was not doing its job. Their response? Get everyone talking about encryption and Snowden instead of the CIA and their failed intel. And they still get the budget increase for next year.

      Sounds to me like SOMEONE at the CIA's got brains.

  2. Snowden unquestionably hurt the intel community. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    It has nothing do with encryption so you call all drop the comments about "But the Paris attackers didn't use encryption!" Totally irrelevant.

    There is a book on the subject that details how Snowden negatively impacted US intelligence. You can believe he's a hero if you want, but it doesn't mean that his actions had no effect: The Snowden Operation: Inside the West's Greatest Intelligence Disaster

  3. GG is owned by Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    GG signed a movie deal with Sony, partner with the NSA, after the "leaks" were out.

    By the way, where are the leaks? Cryptome has been keeping track, and on any scale, he hasn't "leaked" more than 1% of what snowden gave him.

    1. Re:GG is owned by Sony by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      By the way, where are the leaks? Cryptome has been keeping track, and on any scale, he hasn't "leaked" more than 1% of what snowden gave him.

      And that's probably why Glenn Greenwald hasn't suffered a "fatal accident". Because he, along with Snowden, Poitras and others, have probably created a "dead man's switch" that releases everything if any of them die in suspicious circumstances.

      That's what I'd do, anyway.

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    2. Re:GG is owned by Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Snowed himself has called that idea a "suicide switch". It would be idiotic. It means that anyone who wants those documents merely has to kill him, and boom, instant access to the whole deal.

      He'd be a moron to do that, given how many non-US actors would quite literally kill to have that material.

  4. Read the article comments by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The comments on the article make for depressing reading. People seem to have swallowed the horror stories about encryption hook, line and sinker.

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  5. Re:Hero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    "These people are going to hell." And where do you get the right to dictate your concept of morality to others? Snowden should have stuck with releasing information pertaining to the security services domestic activities. Once he released information on the security services foreign activities he fucked himself. Snowden got played by Greenwald from the beginning. They were in communication while the data was being stolen up until the time he could meet up with Snowden to take ownership of the information. A person that has built his career around attacking the US for every wrong, real or imagined. I don't really trust the government but why should I trust anything Greenwald has to say? And there is one thing nobody talks about and that is how do we know some of the data being released is really from the NSA and not made up by those with an axe to grind? Is it enough to say those releasing the data are attacking the government so they must be upstanding people who would never put a cause ahead of the facts? And why didn't Snowden wait until after he was re-located in some South American paradise before going public? He was not being pursued by the government until after he went public.

  6. Re:Because the CIA is evil. by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There was never any strong evidence for WMDs regardless of what rumors may have been out there

    You're actively pretending that Saddam didn't USE his chemical weapons to kill thousands of people. And you're completely mischaracterizing the UN inspection team's early observations of large caches of VX that could NOT be later accounted for (remember the huge, completely phony "documentation" dump provided by Saddam's people to the UN, followed by active blocking of UN inspectors whenever they asked for unplanned inspections of the very places they thought they might find such things?). Yes, I remember Hans Blix, but you're choosing not to remember how things actually played out on the ground as his inspectors were turned away time and time again.

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