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Pursuit of Slenderness May Mean No More Headphone Jack In iPhone 7 (pcmag.com)

An intriguing rumor reported by PC Mag (and initially reported in this Japanese blog) holds that Apple may drop the standard headphone jack from the next revision of the iPhone, in favor of Bluetooth and Lightning connectors. From PC Mag's article: The big question is just how such a move might affect all the other headphones one can buy, as well as the other devices Apple makes. While we can envision some manufacturers making iPhone-exclusive variants of their headphones, we doubt that Apple's potential decision to chop out the headphone jack is going to suddenly make for a market full of Lightning-only headphones and earbuds. There are, after all, plenty of non-iPhone devices that still use the 3.5mm connection. And, of course, you could just pair any ol' pair of Bluetooth headphones or earbuds with the iPhone 7.

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  1. converter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As with virtually any apple device, there will be a $75 piece manufactured for 85 cents that will be a lightning to headphone jack connection.

    As with the other lightning connectors, if you plug it into your mac it will crash when it wakes on sleep.

    1. Re:converter by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      there will be a $75 piece manufactured for 85 cents that will be a lightning to headphone jack connection.

      The only reason Apple keeps doing this is because people keep purchasing their stuff, whatever the price (well, maybe not you I reckon).

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    2. Re:converter by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can buy a wired headset that plugs into just about any device that's been manufactured in the last 40 years for about 1/20 the price of a wireless one. SO it seems to me your message is actually more like, "You should spend heaps more money to accomplish the same task, because... um... because I said so, dammit!"

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    3. Re:converter by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Floppy disks were superseded by other removable storage with clear, tangible advantages over it, as in, "You can pack 50,000 times as much data on something that has no moving parts, requires no power supply, uses a bog-standard connector and thus does not require a cable, is about 50,000 times as rugged, and you can stick in your pocket."

      BTW, I have been using various Bluetooth devices for years (speakers and keyboards), and this discussion isn't about going wireless in any case. It's about Apple ditching a standard wired connector in favour of a proprietary wired one.

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  2. Real bad news by cfalcon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really excellent headphones use the standard jacks, and will not be converting over. Grado, Audiotechnica, and many others simply do not have a funny little iphone connector, and likely never will. While I'm sure there will be some dumb converter you can buy, who wants to keep that crap in their pocket, or attached to their headphones (which you will have to track carefully when plugged into a normal outlet).

    It's true that mostly I listen on little crappy remote earbuds, but that's absolutely not the case that this is ALL I want to listen to.

    Moving to this will remove my ability to use real headphones on Apple phones. That's totally shit.

    1. Re:Real bad news by sd4f · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think this is the main thing, the inertia on quality headphones using 3.5mm plugs just makes this a silly decision. Additionally, there's just a point where getting a phone thinner is just being silly. Give me better battery life over a thinner device. Problem is the industry appears to be dead set against progressing beyond a 1 day battery.

    2. Re:Real bad news by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Plenty of Android phones have multiple days of battery life. My rather cheap but rather good OnePlus One can go for three or four days on a charge, for example. It's more than thin enough.

      I'd rather have a slightly thicker (+1mm) phone with:

      - Micro SIM*
      - Micro SD card
      - Headphone jack
      - Strap loop
      - Qi wireless charging
      - >3000mAh battery
      - USB C connector
      - Supports all bands (or at least Europe and Japan)
      - Factory rooted / unlocked with TWRP installed

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  3. Stop making super thin phones you idiots! by laserhead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We need more battery life!

  4. What else is there left to do on smartphones? by areusche · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I miss the good 'ol days of 2004-5 when smartphone innovation was huge. Nowadays what's left to innovate? There isn't much room left for Apple to do anything nifty besides up the memory and processor speed. Smartphones are so boring these days. The last phone I was excited for was the Droid 4 and iPhone 4 and the marginal software updates for each applicable platform. What is a mobile hardware geek to do?

    I'd love it if some phone manufacturer made a device that was truly secure and could detect when it was being connected to a StingRay device used by law enforcement. Now that's an exciting innovation!

    Brb, checking out the Blackberry Priv.

  5. Reminds me of catwalk models by jez9999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The original goal of the fashion industry and catwalk models was simply to promote slim women - women who were a healthy weight. This was fair enough, and a decent goal - the happy medium. But the fashion industry didn't stop there. They became psychotic about thinness until the point where they now fetishize anorexic women who are very far from attractive and need to see a fucking doctor.

    This seems to be what is happening with smartphones. The first iPhone was somewhat slim and just about right. The boasts about how slim it was were *in relation to* other thicker models at the time; not just about slimness *per se*. It was still a happy medium between slender attractiveness/lack of bulkiness, and utility. But the smartphone industry, led by Apple, is going the way of the fashion industry. It is now led by UX designers with a psychotic obsession with thinness because "that's attractive". Well if some iPhone user comes up to me with a credit card-width phone I'm going to say that my LG G3 is better. Not just because I have a proper headphone jack, replacable SIM card, SD card slot, and replacable battery. But also because the thing actually feels substantial when I hold it. I don't WANT it to be thinner. I don't WANT it to be the anorexic of smartphones.

    All I can say is I hope some smartphone manufacturers break rank and start advertising that they are NOT trying to make their phones thinner than 1cm. If Apple want to do that, it's their funeral. I want a decent thickness phone with a good number of features and a decent battery life.

  6. Re:Bullshit by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They will probably offer an adapter cable. They seem to love adapters these days, because the device can be smaller and they get to sell you an accessory.

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  7. Pursuit of Slenderness? Pursuit for Cash by hsa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, right. This has nothing to do with selling overpriced accessories.

  8. Dear Apple by grahamtriggs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the 3.5mm jack is restricting you from making the device thinner, then use the "unnecessary" space for high battery capacity.

    Hell, just make the device a tiny bit thicker and increase the battery life anyway.

    Just because Jony Ive is a twat that craves how things look over how they function, a substantial part of your user base (and potential user base), actually give a shit about having a device that can be used consistently without dying in under 24 hours, and might even last more than a day without charging.

    To an extent we will trade battery life for increased functionality, but an even thinner device isn't more functional. We want more battery life.

  9. Re:3.5mm? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meh. Keep the 3.5mm connector, shrink the rest of the phone down,and fill the remaining space with extra battery. Seriously, how much thinner do phones need to be? I'd prefer some extra battery life, thanks.

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  10. Re:3.5mm? by turbidostato · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "After all, why can't they just redesign the audio socket so it's a couple of millimeters thinner?"

    They probably can but then, what would you call an object 1.5mm width and ending on a point? That's a connector no more but a needle. And a needle has two problems: it's fragile and it can hurt. Not such a wise decision for a connector.

  11. Re:They will go one step further by LordKronos · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hate to say it, but they already have a "Made for iPhone" program where there are special chips the iDevices are looking for, and if they don't find it they will complain the accessory may not work properly:

    http://www.iphonehacks.com/201...

    Last I heard it never went past fear mongering but was still annoying. I can't remember if there was a way to disable it or not but I'm sure if so it was on by default.

    That's nothing new. It's been around for a long time. I had a 2nd gen ipod touch. Apple wanted like $50 for their composite A/V cable (with the red/white/yellow connectors) so you could play video back on an old analog TV. Instead I went onto ebay and bought one for $3.50 that worked perfectly. Or at least it did work perfectly, until IOS 4.0 (I think that was the version, but maybe it was 3.0) was released. Then whenever the cable was connected, it would pop up that error message. You could still use the audio out on the cable, but the video portion was useless (I don't remember if it completely stopped working or was just useless because it showed the error message on your TV). The only way to get video out was to buy a new ridiculously priced official cable that had their DRM chip inside.