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After Twenty Years of Flash, Adobe Kills the Name (thestack.com)
An anonymous reader writes: From January 2016, Adobe Flash will be renamed to 'Adobe Animate CC', killing one of the most unfortunate names in web security as the company pushes the product further and further to HTML5 output. Adobe's release about the update, which will form part of the annual Creative Cloud upgrade, states that a third of all material output from the program is now HTML5. The transitional HTML5 Adobe animation program Edge Animate will be replaced by the renamed Flash product.
A Rose by any other name still smells as sweet.
Adobe Flash by any other name still reeks of shit.
They can call it whatever they want but it will still be a piece of shit. Of course many website and software vendors are complicit in keeping this piece of shit software alive and kicking.
or not, as the case may be...in other words, they can change the name, but they can't change the stink of decay that surrounds Flash
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I think I remember that from one of my computer-security classes. Sanitize all your inputs, do length checks to avoid buffer overflows, and if those don't work, change your product's name.
The problem that everyone forgets though is that it's 2015 and browsers STILL haven't effectively sandboxed javascript.
Yeah, Flash has a lot of holes in it.
But if you want to look at the primary vector for malware today it's not Flash anymore. It's javascript.
And yes, if you block ads, you close that one gateway.
But of course, we all visit countless websites over the course of a year -- some in the web's bad neighborhoods. AdBlock ain't gonna help.
And yeah, there's NoScript... but that tends to limit the web's basic functionality.
Time to start hollering about better browser security IMHO.
It has now become absurd that Chrome/Netscape and IE still have glaring holes and allow XSS.
There was hardly ever a time when Flash nor Shockwave were actually really useful and if there ever was, that time is definitely LONG gone - kill the product instead and move aside for html5! You have enough other, actual cash cows, adobe.
"Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet." - Mark Twain
they are not killing the flash name; the new version of their *creation* package is renamed to Animate from Flash Professional since it outputs HTML5 in addition to SWF; this is not related to the client side SWF ecosystem
Can all the rabid Flash fanboys that's left finally let it go?
Still don't get this cow reference.
20 years is a long time in our world. Many readers here had just gotten their first jobs, and many weren't even born yet (or so behavior hints to me). Windows 95 had just come out, 9.5 times better than what we have today. Emacs vs VIM was all the rage, and a year later came out a fledgling desktop environment known as KDE. Java was something you drank, your printer probably made this awful, "SCRRRRRRRRRRR" sound as it punched your pages with ink ribbons, and your CIA/BND/M15/whatever were still cool guys in suits (nowadays they're just guys in suits).
Adobe's held this name for a really long time, and it's a huge shame they're going to dump the name on its deathbed. We all know what "Animate CC" still is, and it's not a C compiler. Least they could have done would have been to let Flash die with dignity...
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
They're renaming the authoring tool, which is currently known as Flash Professional CC. It appears that the Flash Player will remain just that.
This makes perfect sense, as Flash Professional CC is increasingly being used to generate media that targets HTML5, not Flash, as output. Renaming Flash Professional CC to Animate CC eliminates the whole need to do the song and dance of "we're talking about Flash the authoring environment, not Flash the plugin" to non-technical audiences.
Obliteracy: Words with explosions
I think it's some weird ass herd mentality reference. Not sure though, he could just be a troll.
For a brief moment I was worried they might have killed Flash. Then I noticed they only retired the name 'cause it was already pretty much synonymous of "malware installer".
For a moment I was worried about my job security. Please, Adobe, don't scare us IT security guys like that!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
...is the source of most vulnerabilities. Just because the cabal that have taken over the W3C want to dumb down the PC platform so they can turn it into an advertising platform (Google) or get people buying iDevices instead (Apple) doesn't mean that there aren't good reasons for something better than Javascript+HTML+CSS.
I got so excited as I was reading the title; then I got to the last word and was really disappointed.
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What I'm reading from this is that Edge Animate, Adobe's HTML 5 tool, will be renamed Adobe Animate CC, and will gain some (probably funky) backwards compatibility to Flash.
But it's not as sexy when you put it that way.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
VMware vSphere Web Client need to go HTML5 and dump the flash as well.
I don't care what they name it, within reason. It's a product / tool / whatever. Does it work? Good.
In particular, will they PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE update the Reader application under Linux to support some kind of contemporary animation that's supported on other platforms as well? I don't care if it's Flash, HTML5, AVI, MOV ... I just don't care. It doesn't matter. What matters is that I can display animations within a PDF, and be certain that they will play for others on Windows or iOS as well. Right now, as a Linux user, I don't have that ability, really.
Put my fist through my alarm clock with its ding-dong death inside my ear. - The Blackjacks.
Well whether it's a reference to herd mentality or not, he's definitely *at least* a troll.
I really liked the fresh and modern take it had on HTML5 canvas timeline based animation. It was built from the ground up and very lean. I hope Adobe incorporates all of Edge Animate's features into their new Animate/Flash CC app.
One Cow Two Cow
Red Cow Moo Cow.
The Cow Says Moo.
My Cow Is Blue.
Anglo-Irish in origin, it is one of several rhymed heroic couplets about farm animals. All but forgotten now, except for the Fisher-Price "See 'N Say" toy introduced in 1965 where "The Cow Says Moo". The "My Cow Is Blue" refers to the Belgian Blue breed introduced to Ireland just before the Great Hunger; while the population starved, all Belgian Blue beef went for Export to England. To "Have A Blue Cow" went from being an indication of Wealth to being a description of someone Wealthy having a snit fit.
Modern Belgian Blues are quite different from those of two centuries back; they have been so bred for size that most births are now done by Caesarean section.
It's a pity that the idiot forcing this "Meme" hasn't a clue as to what it actually means.
And don't tell him about the Chicken one- "A Gug, A Gug..."
Pronounced "Ack!!!".
I said, No Text!
News Flash! Flash is old news!
To be renamed Professor Zoom!
If your shirt is long enough, who needs pants anyway?
In practice, what's better than JavaScript+HTML+CSS, other than duplicating the effort 14 times by writing native apps for 14 different platforms?
In general, Adobe's product version naming has been very odd and confusing. Numeric version numbers are not "sexy" enough I guess, so they give their versions names seemingly stolen from sports shoes or Honda's Department of Hipster Marketing.
Damn whippersnappers, get off my LXWN!
Table-ized A.I.
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish
Maybe they'll use the name change as an opportunity to generate some further goodwill and kill off the browser plugin.
Flash does have uses outside the browser, and the new name reflects that. It's a completely dippy name for a browser plugin, though.
Adobe has ever been accused of forward thinking, but we can always hope.
Screen Door was already copyrighted.
Flash is pretty much dead, or at the very least on it's to a forced suicide. When I stopped working with flash for web applications, and transitioned to HTML5; it was the single most intelligent programming transition decision I had ever made. Now is a time for web developers to transition out Flash all together, and focus on developing for HTML5 facsimiles.
if that crapbucket shows up, I will disable it, too.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
same old 1960s thing, only now you use your own SVGA terminal to the cloud. white-coated sysadmins still own everything. read the fine print.
might as well mail card decks back and forth.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
I used to work for Macromedia - from 1995 - 1998. I was there when they bought Flash (It was called "FutureSplash") and yes, it was originally supposed to simply do vector based animation, because bandwidth back in the mid 90s sucked balls. Fairly quickly it became painfully obvious that Macromedia's flagship product, Director was doomed. Director did pixel based animations and a lot of other things thanks to its programming language, Lingo. A HUGE portion of the development cost for Director went into Lingo. Now with Director made (mostly) redundant by Flash they had to figure out what to do with the people. So, what better way to fuck it up than to shoehorn some crazy language into it and give it superpowers like Director? Enter ActionScript.
There was no reason to think about security - it was a tool to make stupid games and animations on the interweb thingie. And, like Director it became increasingly bloated and complex and pointless. Flash was dead long before the security gremlins appeared. Then Adobe bought the whole mess, hook, line, and sinker. Suckers. Between the headache that was Flash and the eye watering bilge that was ColdFusion, Macromedia got even with Adobe by serving them a hot buttered plate full of digital poo. The only thing, IMHO, that was worth a right flying fuck from Macromedia that Adobe got was FreeHand, and, Adobe, in it's infinite wisdom, killed FreeHand, even though it was a demonstrably better product.
Macromedia was poorly run by a bunch of wolverines. They got bought by the Borg. And now there's basically nothing left of value except Photoshop, After Effects, Premiere, and inDesign. And I'm not that certain about Premiere....
RS
Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
Xe, Altria, AirTran, MCI ....
How many years does PDF have to be a primary attack vector before we strip Adobe of the business license?
is not a container for any video codec... it's not 'output to' anything. To date, all you can output on adobe products without 3rd party plugins is h.264, 75 patents owned by microsoft alone, among others like apple in the group MPEG-LA.
I didn't read a single line mentioning webm, vp8/9 or vorbis and opus. You know, the actual open source ones. HTML5 is fast becoming another marketing buzzword equally irritating as cloud.