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After Demanding $3 Million Ransom, Hacker Dumps Massive Customer Financial Data (dailydot.com)

Patrick O'Neill writes: Just over week after a hacker breached a United Arab Emirates Bank, demanding a $3 million ransom to stop tweeting customers' information, he appears to have dumped tens of thousands of customer files online. The actual data appears to be real. And it's vast. One database analyzed by the Daily Dot includes the sensitive information of around 40,000 customers, including their full names, credit card numbers, and birthdays. One account contained 4,7174,962.38 dirham, or $12,844,589.77. Those accounts' total earnings add up to $110,736,002. One bank executive confirmed the hack to Farooqui, adding that, "This is blackmail."

124 comments

  1. Um, yeah ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "This is blackmail."

    Yes, that's exactly what it is.

    What do you think holding something for ransom is?

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    1. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just wondering how they came up with the "4,7174,962.38" figure...

    2. Re: Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In case they need to make an insanity plea. I know, really? Asking four million dollars, come on!

      The 28 cents makes perfect sense though.

    3. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The balance line? That was a specific balance in one of the accounts, not the ransom requested.

    4. Re:Um, yeah ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      I'm just wondering how they came up with the "4,7174,962.38" figure...

      Ummm ... straight off the account information which was leaked?

      If it was dollars instead of dirham, would you be asking the same question?

      I assume the "0.38" is the equivalent of "cents".

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    5. Re:Um, yeah ... by hawguy · · Score: 0

      "This is blackmail."

      Yes, that's exactly what it is.

      What do you think holding something for ransom is?

      Well no, at its core, it's just inadequate security practices by the bank.

    6. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I wouldn't trust these data. There's something fishy about the commata.

    7. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just wondering how they came up with the "4,7174,962.38" figure...

      Ummm ... straight off the account information which was leaked?

      If it was dollars instead of dirham, would you be asking the same question?

      I assume the "0.38" is the equivalent of "cents".

      I think OP was making a joke of "4,7174,962.38" being a typo for "4,7,17;4,96:2.38".

    8. Re:Um, yeah ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They shouldn't pay it anyway. All they have is this guy's word that he won't release any (more) data. Maybe they pay him and he sells the data on to someone else, who then demands their $3m ransom too. No matter what happens they will have to treat it as if the information is public now.

      As well as losses due to theft, it will be interesting to see if there are any financial penalties from their regulator or if anyone manages to sue them. For one the people being screwed can afford good lawyers.

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    9. Re: Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's possible the joke was about the comma placement.

    10. Re:Um, yeah ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      They shouldn't pay it anyway. All they have is this guy's word that he won't release any (more) data

      Isn't this kind of an intrinsic thing with blackmail and extortion?

      Yes, the guy shaking you down for money may not be honest and give you what he promised once you pay the money. Nobody ever said blackmail was done by honest, law abiding citizens.

      I mean, I don't disagree with you. But I'm pretty sure in any such situation you have no real way of knowing the bad guys will play fair.

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    11. Re: Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know... Blackmail is usually by bankers

    12. Re:Um, yeah ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It reminds me of old blackmail movies where they demand the negatives, as if you can't fairly easily make copies of negatives or just keep some prints.

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    13. Re:Um, yeah ... by TWX · · Score: 2

      At least duplicating negatives required equipment that most people neither had ready personal access to nor had training on, so if the blackmail content of the negatives was very sensitive then paying a photolab to duplicate the negatives properly could lead to exposing the blackmailer to extra risk.

      Modern digital content doesn't usually require any special equipment or training, and even your average neophyte could do it.

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    14. Re:Um, yeah ... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      My favorite is the floppy disk or thumb drive version. So easy to copy that there's no reason there wouldn't be duplicates everywhere.

    15. Re:Um, yeah ... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1, Funny

      > After Demanding $3 Million Ransom, Hacker Dumps Massive

      Peter Griffen: "Ooooh?"

      > Customer Financial Data

      Peter Griffen: "Awwww..."

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    16. Re:Um, yeah ... by ranton · · Score: 1

      They shouldn't pay it anyway. All they have is this guy's word that he won't release any (more) data. Maybe they pay him and he sells the data on to someone else, who then demands their $3m ransom too.

      That is why the ransom seekers should be asking for monthly installments. This way both sides have a vested interest in keeping the status quo.

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    17. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Original comment 'This is blackmail'

      General consensus 'DUH'

      Restating 'Yes, that's exactly what it is.'

      Should be an even greater statement 'DUH DUH DUH, can we move on now???'. How this is insightful is beyond me.

    18. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of the related one where someone is copying files while under the gun for time and you see the % indicator climb. Once it hits 100%, they rip out the thumb drive or disk. Even when the progress bar is done, doesn't mean it is on the disk. Nowadays, you have to eject or "safely remove" that sucker to make sure it is synced properly. However, even back then, you had to wait for the light on the disk drive to turn off. I've seen multiple movies where they popped open the drive, even as the disk access light on the drive is on.

    19. Re:Um, yeah ... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Blackmail is such an ugly word. We prefer "fish paste".

    20. Re:Um, yeah ... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      But making up a couple of dozen of prints to keep before you hand over the negatives would be easy. Granted, you couldn't make more after the negatives were out of your hands without a great deal of trouble, but you'd have those prints.

    21. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other comments from executives include:

      "This is a bank."

      "I am thirsty."

      "The coffee is tasty."

      "I can't feel my legs."

      One other executive was seen in the corner of a room rocking gently and mumbling strange incoherent words.

    22. Re:Um, yeah ... by Wycliffe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "This is blackmail."

      Yes, that's exactly what it is.

      What do you think holding something for ransom is?

      Holding "something" for ransom isn't blackmail if that something is tangible. Even holding "information" for ransom isn't blackmail. If I have the password and won't give it to you until you give me $1M that's still not blackmail. Blackmail is when you threaten to release information for a ransom. The biggest problem with blackmail (as opposed to holding a password or something tangible for ransom) is that once the other party has that information, giving them the money really doesn't resolve the situation as they can still release it at any time in the future and/or demand more money to maintain status quo. Promises to delete the data, give you the only copy, etc... are hard to enforce or verify.

    23. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I love Lamp!"

    24. Re: Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Actually, it's called blackmail. Entrapment is what cops do to thieves.

    25. Re:Um, yeah ... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      In particular, the common usage of the word "blackmail" refers to threatening to release information about the person or something that the person has done because the information is meaningful in of itself and potentially harmful to their reputation. While you certainly don't want everyone to know your credit card number, since they could use it to harm you financially, the fact that your credit card number is 1234-5678-1234-5678 doesn't really mean anything.

    26. Re:Um, yeah ... by ravenscar · · Score: 2

      Even in the days of negatives it was relatively easy to doctor photos. If a photo were to make it into the public one could say "That photo isn't real. It has been doctored." The party releasing the photo could say "No it hasn't. Here are the negatives." As any tampering with the negatives would be plainly evident. If the party couldn't produce the negatives the photo would be suspect - especially in a court of law. Where the law ins concerned, courts have always treated photographic evidence with much more skepticism than the general public. Being unable to produce negatives to back up evidence was a good way to have such evidence called into question.

    27. Re:Um, yeah ... by TWX · · Score: 1

      You're still probably dependent on the photo lab to make the prints though. I've developed negatives and developed prints from negatives, it's a smelly, messy task that is beyond most people. One would have to be on the level of Charles Augustus Milverton to pursue hobbies or crafts specifically for their ability to be used for blackmail, and would have to blackmail in such quantity as to make a living from it in order to justify all of the security and other headaches associated with such a limited lifestyle.

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    28. Re:Um, yeah ... by Lumpy · · Score: 0

      These same people think making guns illegal will remove them from criminals hands.

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    29. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They shouldn't pay it anyway. All they have is this guy's word that he won't release any (more) data. Maybe they pay him and he sells the data on to someone else, who then demands their $3m ransom too. No matter what happens they will have to treat it as if the information is public now.

      Right, they have to treat the information as public now, but SHOULDN'T they have an obligation to at least try to prevent further information release?
      And the way to try is... pay the hacker.
      There's no guarantee, no, that further information wouldn't be released, but they can hardly claim they tried to prevent release if they don't pay...

    30. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As any tampering with the negatives would be plainly evident. If the party couldn't produce the negatives the photo would be suspect - especially in a court of law.

      Well, how about photographing a doctored print? Then you have negatives that have not been altered of an image that has.

    31. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is blackmail.

      Blackmail?

      THIS
            IS
                  SPARRTAAAA

    32. Re:Um, yeah ... by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

      with USB that's merely a caching thing and 99% of the time you are fine to rip it out (once the actual transfer is done). Floppies, oh boy, you can literally tear the thing apart yanking it out early. If the lights are still flashing on your usb drive, it's not done!

    33. Re:Um, yeah ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Sure, but negatives are not hard to duplicate.

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    34. Re:Um, yeah ... by ultranova · · Score: 1

      I've developed negatives and developed prints from negatives, it's a smelly, messy task that is beyond most people.

      You know, I went to children's photography club as a kid, and I can't recall any of us having any trouble developing our photos. It's just a projector followed by two chemical bathes with rinsing with water between. Anyone who can use tweezers shouldn't have any problems.

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    35. Re:Um, yeah ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Limiting the availability of guns means that criminals have to go different routes. Ban assault weapons, the bad guys go with pistols, which use far less lethal rounds and are far less accurate. Ban 30 round clips, that means the bad guys are reloading more often and putting fewer rounds into people.

      It does work. NYC is a good example of a safe city, where possession means 1-2 years at Rikers. The days of looking at the business end of a Saturday Night Special being a common mishap are long gone. Maybe other cities should follow suit.

    36. Re:Um, yeah ... by ravenscar · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. Not easy for "average person," but certainly not hard for someone motivated.

    37. Re:Um, yeah ... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      There is a slight difference between blackmail and extortion. Technically threatening to expose actual account holders who have been say, taking bribes or cheating on taxes, unless they paid would be blackmail but threatening the Bank is more extortion. Of course for criminal investigators it all now is legal evidence, who knows what shenanigans have no been exposed.

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    38. Re:Um, yeah ... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Black and white is well within the reach of even a casual hobbyist, although it's "anyone who can use tweezers and has access to a darkroom." Color tends to be rather more complicated; developing Kodachrome was strictly a job for professionals.

    39. Re:Um, yeah ... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "This is blackmail."

      Yes, that's exactly what it is.

      What do you think holding something for ransom is?

      Extortion, blackmail implies the bank did something that they don't want others to know about.

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    40. Re:Um, yeah ... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      I've developed negatives [a] task that is beyond most people.

      I was doing it at age 12 in mum's laundry, with good results, bought the equipment and supplies with pocket money.

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    41. Re:Um, yeah ... by Troed · · Score: 1

      Disclaimer: I just (like in a few days ago) wrote code to directly address the Floppy Disc Controller and Direct Memory Address subsystems on a computer architecture from 1985 to read/write raw data to disk.

      After having made the transfer you should take care to deselect the active drive. However, you should not deselect the drive until the motor has stopped spinning. This is best done by doing a busy wait checking the MOTOR ON flag before deselection.

      The "disk access light" is on as long as the drive is selected. It's perfectly safe to eject the disk once it has stopped writing, before the motor has spun down and the code (in this example me) has deselected the drive (turned off the light).

      FWIW.

  2. It WAS Blackmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    One bank executive confirmed the hack to Farooqui, adding that, "This is blackmail."

    Dude, it was blackmail. This is a shitstorm.

    1. Re: It WAS Blackmail by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Presented by the "how to be racist with politically correct terms" department.

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    2. Re:It WAS Blackmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here I was expecting a "This is Sparta" reference

    3. Re: It WAS Blackmail by truck_soccer · · Score: 0

      Passive-aggressive racists are my favorite.

    4. Re: It WAS Blackmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. This is Patrick.

  3. If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this would probably stop happening.

    1. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only a bankster is stupid enough not to spend a ratio of 3:111 to protect their business.

    2. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in this case the bankers screwed us by not paying.

    3. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Us? So you live in the UAE?

    4. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Those Republicans are getting what they deserve.

      Republicans in the UAE?

    5. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, just like 9 year old kids would stop getting shot in Chicago if they just stopped spilling their milk.

      Fuck you, victim blaming nigger.

    6. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. It is the NRA's fault for flooding the streets with guns because they hate children. Once you understand their hatred if children their motivations, that seem illogical at first, suddenly make sense.

    7. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by truck_soccer · · Score: 1

      This reverse trolling that you've been attempting is really starting to fail harder than usual. Maybe get some new material?

    8. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be quiet Hillary - this was in the UAE, which has neither the Republican or Democrat parties. Political parties are banned there.

    9. Re: If the banksters stop screwing everyone... by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      Only a bankster is stupid enough not to spend a ratio of 3:111 to protect their business.

      only an idiot thinks that ratio is correct. Once you start paying blackmail there will be an endless queue of people willing to blackmail you.

  4. Terrorist Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real question is how much terrorist funding is going to show up in the data dumps and how is the US government going to justify not going after people who fund the terrorist because they are our "friends"?

    1. Re:Terrorist Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real question is how much terrorist funding is going to show up in the data dumps and how is the US government going to justify not going after people who fund the terrorist because they are our "friends"?

      None!

      There IS no terrorism, it's "climate change", get with the program man! *

      * Or you will be sent to the hope and deranged concentration camps.

    2. Re:Terrorist Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The shooting in Paris was caused by climate change as proven by Obama saying that. He has more information than us, and he believes that climate change is what caused that.

    3. Re: Terrorist Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And why people are fleeing Syria, as the President punted out. Of course the Reoublucans will never admit that because that means admitting that they're responsible for nearly all terrorism.

    4. Re:Terrorist Funding by i_ate_god · · Score: 1, Insightful

      to be fair, this whole mess could actually be partly responsible on climate change.

      Syria has been experiencing a severe drought, which has lead to unemployment in the agricultural industry. The mass unemployment was one of catalysts of the civil war.

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    5. Re: Terrorist Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on, just because we bomb one side, put guns in the hands of the other side, then switch sides every 10-20 years, does NOT mean we're responsible for nearly all terrorism.

      Right? Right?!?!?

    6. Re: Terrorist Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just free market (mil ind complex) my man.

  5. Oh good! by TFlan91 · · Score: 0

    Just in time for a holiday shopping spree, paid for by ISIS!

  6. Where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is the data dump? I would like to look at it and figure out how many politicians are hiding money overseas.

  7. Blackmail by Grishnakh · · Score: 0

    One bank executive confirmed the hack to Farooqui, adding that, "This is blackmail."

    No shit, Sherlock!

    This bank executive's a real genius; I never would have guessed that this is blackmail. /s

    1. Re:Blackmail by truck_soccer · · Score: 1

      The operative phrase here is "bank executive". You literally don't have to know ANYTHING to be an executive. That is what your staff is for.

  8. You're not in American any more, Dorothy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. Those Republicans are getting what they deserve.

    How very American, to project American political divisions onto countries ten thousand kilometers away,

  9. Word missing in summary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just over week after a hacker breached...

    Doesn't anybody proofread the summary before it's posted? It should say "Just over a week after a hacker breached...".

  10. The problem with paying blackmail by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Only a bankster is stupid enough not to spend a ratio of 3:111 to protect their business.

    The problem with paying blackmail is that it doesn't ever stop.

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    1. Re:The problem with paying blackmail by TWX · · Score: 3, Informative

      It does if one takes the opportunity to pay the blackmailer as a means to expose them, to then murder them in a way that leaves evidence of a very prolonged and excruciating death.

      I suspect that one of the reasons that people don't engage in this kind of behavior more often is that it's very, very difficult to collect ransom without subjecting one's self to grievous risk. Wealthy people also have the means to afford to get retribution against someone else if they choose to do so.

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    2. Re:The problem with paying blackmail by ranton · · Score: 1

      The problem with paying blackmail is that it doesn't ever stop.

      That is where negotiations come in. Agree to pay in installments so both sides have a reason to keep up the status quo.

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    3. Re:The problem with paying blackmail by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Only a bankster is stupid enough not to spend a ratio of 3:111 to protect their business.

      The problem with paying blackmail is that it doesn't ever stop.

      It does and it works if it delays the blackmailer long enough for that payer's investigators to discover who did it and send in a hit squad.

  11. Income inequality by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Informative
    Complete aside, but...

    One database analyzed by the Daily Dot includes the sensitive information of around 40,000 customers, including their full names, credit card numbers, and birthdays. One account contained 4,7174,962.38 dirham, or $12,844,589.77. Those accounts' total earnings add up to $110,736,002.

    $110.7 million over 40,000 accounts is an average of $2,767.5 per account. That one guy with $12 million has over 4600 times the average.

    1. Re:Income inequality by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well... The "1% owns everything" is not the usual bullshit or conspiracy theory, is very real.

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    2. Re:Income inequality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $110.7 million over 40,000 accounts is an average of $2,767.5 per account. That one guy with $12 million has over 4600 times the average.

      So, one prince and weekly allowance accounts for his 39,999 wives?

    3. Re:Income inequality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am looking forward to regulators digging through this data dump and finding some corruption. That one guy with $12M probably isn't the only interesting account in the mix.

    4. Re:Income inequality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the UAE bank we are talking about. I'll give you a hint: oil.

    5. Re:Income inequality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll guess the median account contains less than that.

    6. Re:Income inequality by Ragnarok89 · · Score: 1

      I think you might be incorrect... You are comparing one account's BALANCE to the average EARNINGS (interest paid) of the others. There is no mention of the cumulative balance of the other 40,000 accounts. I also admit that the author may have thought the terms were interchangeable - but they are not.

    7. Re:Income inequality by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      I have a huge amount of cash savings but only a couple grand in a deposit account. Really, only a business or a dummy would have a large deposit.

    8. Re:Income inequality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably just a slush fund. His other $500M+ is currently tied up in non-liquid assets.

    9. Re:Income inequality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a huge amount of cash savings but only a couple grand in a deposit account. Really, only a business or a dummy would have a large deposit.

      You mean CASH cash?? Like the house is burned down or looted and you've lost everything cash? That's insane.

  12. Re:Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Teehee, you said 'SJW'

    You know that instantly renders your opinions as a joke, yeah?

  13. Never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will companies actually care about peoples private information? Never. Never ever ever. How long will it be before we admit this to ourselves?

    1. Re:Never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forever. Forever ever ever.

  14. He? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quite a sexist assumption there. Since women are underrepresented in STEM and programming jobs and need special schools and special treatment, shouldn't they get the same in hacking? /sarcasm

    1. Re:He? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wouldn't that be illegal in t eh UAE?

  15. Re:Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, it's a good marker for filtering out worthless/offtopic comments.

  16. Doing it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Breaches like this shouldn't fucking happen in the first place. With this many breaches, it's clear to me that companies need to change the way private information is handled. Because they are doing it wrong.

    1. Re:Doing it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure most knowledgeable people have been saying this for 2+ decades.

      Welcome to the ship.

  17. data mining on kaggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure this can say somethings very interesting and meaningful - perhaps it should be staged to kaggle for analysis.

  18. blackmail by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 2

    One bank executive confirmed the hack to Farooqui, adding that, "This is blackmail."

    Yes, it is. But it is also something else, something much more important: lousy security, utter disregard for their customers, and negligence on the part of the United Arab Emirates Bank.

    When a bank loses customer data on this scale, the bank is the crook and the victim is the customer. Trying to portray the bank as the victim (of blackmail) adds insult to injury.

  19. http://bckalev.ee/invest/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    The data is still there. http://bckalev.ee/invest/
    Nice bandwidth too.

  20. Re:Twitter by Falos · · Score: 1

    Did you really just plug your ears and hum? I did wonder if that's how they handle things.

  21. FIX YOUR F'ING CODE ALREADY!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm stick of the low coding standards and inadequate code reviews/security audits at every stage of the development process.

    As an example I don't want an 802.11ac adapter. I want a stable, open (not that fake 'open source' crap we get that is dependant on non-free pieces either), bug-free, and well developed 802.11n adapter. The same applies to pretty much everything. The problem is we keep jumping ships without ever having really written a stable, bug-free, secure bit of code for really anything.

    1. Re:FIX YOUR F'ING CODE ALREADY!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm stick of the low coding standards and inadequate code reviews/security audits

      Have you tried looking at a different branch of the code?

  22. The answer to everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the bank executive had been carrying a gun, this wouldn't have happened!

  23. ISIS-chan to the rescue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just over week after the hacker dumped a United Arab Emirates Bank's customers information on the net, his severed head appears to have been dumped in a garbage bin.

    Is it wise to attack a bank in a country where petty thieves lose the hand to justice and major criminals are beheaded in public? One must be 101% positively sure he will never be caught, else...

  24. That sensitive information shouldn't be sensitive by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 2

    Does knowing birthdays, names, addresses, SSN's prove that a person *is* the person with that name, birthday and SSN?

    Not anymore! All that information has been stolen so many times.

    So any lender, or banker, who gives out money (loan or otherwise) to a person based solely on birthday, name, address and SSN has NOT done due diligence, and the bank should have FULL liability for any theft that occurs, NOT the poor unfortunate that rightfully owns the identity.

    We badly need to reform this system that uses such weak proofs of identity as "knowing' something. And we badly need to start blaming lenders/bankers for fraud that occurs because they are too stupid to realize that the data I mentioned isn't proof of identity.

    --PM

  25. How to make information worthless by hackertourist · · Score: 1

    I was thinking about ways the bank could have mitigated the effects of the attack. Would it be worth releasing piles and piles of false identities? Generate so much noise that anyone who'd want to use the data would have no way to separate the wheat from the chaff.

    1. Re:How to make information worthless by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      How about current customers are given alternate methods to connect. Anyone using the released information from an IP address not previously used is forwarded to that infamous goat-site, and their IP address recorded. If that IP address can later be linked to an identity (i.e. e-mail) that person is auto-subscribed to an array of camel-porn mailing lists (unless they're already on them, in which case they're unsubscribed). Not perfect, but it might have some effect.

  26. They only wanted 3 million? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only 3 million? When such a data dump likely to be way more damaging? Wow

  27. Re:Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Including the immediately preceding comment suggesting the term is valueless. Which is valueless. Most of these activists are rebels without a clue.

  28. You can't pay the ransom by ZorinLynx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They have the information. They can release it any time.

    You might pay the ransom, then they'll demand more money a year down the line.

    It sucks that the customer data got released, but paying a ransom isn't the right way to deal with this. Improve security, make it harder to breach the systems. Paying ransoms just encourages more ransoms in the future.

    If the criminals know they'll never get their ransom paid, they'll stop. (and move onto other criminal endeavors I'm sure... but that's criminals for ya)

    1. Re:You can't pay the ransom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might pay the ransom, then they'll demand more money a year down the line.

      What we need is some kind of escrow service for blackmailers. The escrow service could verify (through trivial implementation details) that they had the only copy of the data, and then could be trusted to destroy their copy when the blackmail is paid. Plus, they get a little commission. Everyone wins!

    2. Re:You can't pay the ransom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and the NSA could host this service!

  29. backmail indeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but lousy system security and operational incompetence preceded it.

  30. Re:That sensitive information shouldn't be sensiti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So any lender, or banker, who gives out money (loan or otherwise) to a person based solely on birthday, name, address and SSN has NOT done due diligence
    Those bankers are operating outside banking regulations. As anyone working in a financial sector in most western/BIS regulated companies will tell you there is a specified criteria required by law to identify a customer. We are regularly audited on this by internal and external auditors and regulators. The entire bank once a year, each department more intensely every 5 years. I cannot speak for non-western banks but I suspect they undergo similar regimes of inspection, especially if they want to connect to western European and North American banking systems.

  31. Tracking money by phorm · · Score: 1

    I'd especially expect that a bank might be well-versed in ways to track money, and have friends that would cooperate in making it difficult so as to reduce such blackmail overall. And given the bank in question, I'd also expect that things would go rather badly for the culprit once tracked down.

  32. Not blackmail by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

    It's called "speculative invoicing".

    --
    When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
  33. 40K customers and $3 million by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

    Wonder if it will cost them more than $3 million to deal with the fallout from the breach of 40K customers. Perhaps it would have been cheaper to pay the ransom.