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15,000 Hoverboards Seized As Unsafe In United Kingdom (nationaltradingstandards.uk)

puddingebola writes: National Trading Standards and trading standards services in Scotland have released figures that 15,000 of 17,000 hoverboards have been seized at ports of entry in the UK because of safety concerns. The boards were seized "due to a range of concerns, such as safety issues with the plug, cabling, charger, battery or the cut-off switch within the board, which often fails." Are we pushing hoverboard technology too far too quickly, or are there just a group of criminal sociopaths manufacturing unsafe devices at Christmastime and pumping them into the market? Mashable has a story summary with links to video of a man in Alabama with his hoverboard on fire. The government of New York City isn't so hot on hoverboards, either.

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  1. Wait, what? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hoverboards? What year is this?

    1. Re:Wait, what? by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 5, Funny

      2015, obviously.

    2. Re:Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      2015, the year they went to in Back to the Future 2.

      However, being this is reality, it should come as no shock that "hoverboard" is a marketing gimmick for shitty electric skateboards. The Daily Show covered this well.

      Learning that not only are they shitty electric skateboards but they're also poorly made, dangerous shitty electric skateboards comes as no shock.

    3. Re:Wait, what? by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

      Learning that not only are they shitty electric skateboards but they're also poorly made, dangerous shitty electric skateboards comes as no shock.

      That depends on the failure mode...

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    4. Re:Wait, what? by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      The year of stupid people, really really REALLY stupid people call these hoverboards.

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    5. Re:Wait, what? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In a perverse sort of way, I suppose it counts as 'progress' that Li-ion batteries big enough to be dangerous are also cheap enough to find their way into dangerously shoddy crap that is just an electrical fire waiting to happen; but that doesn't change the fact that dangerously shoddy crap is just an electrical fire waiting to happen; and now it has moved into devices large enough to burn reasonably enthusiastically; which used to be the preserve of fairly expensive gear, with Ni-Cd batteries in the cheap seats.

    6. Re:Wait, what? by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      probably the same people who name everything "smart"

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  2. Not hoverboards by ickleberry · · Score: 5, Informative

    These are those silly two-wheeled "segway with no handle" contraptions that are all the fad this year. Bought in by the container load from the Pearl River Delta for half nothing and sold in shops for £499 a pop.

    1. Re:Not hoverboards by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They aren't being sold for 500 quid, they are being sold for half that direct to consumers on sites like Banggood, eBay and Deal Extreme.

      Consumers directly importing unsafe goods is a growing problem. Drones, hoverboards, chargers, batteries... While European shops have to abide by common safety standards, you can basically import anything you like and most of the time it won't be checked. The only reason hoverboards are is that they cost enough to be charged duty and VAT on.

      I wonder what will happen to all the consumers who bought these things. Most of these sellers make it clear that customs is your problem, and Trading Standards won't pay to return them. The best option is probably to claim on your credit card under section 75, unless you paid by PayPal in which case you are likely screwed.

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    2. Re:Not hoverboards by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Of course I hate the fact that there are cheaply made, bad component unsafe versions of these things and they should be pursued and dealt with....

      However, the blurb about NYC, trying to ban them because they "weren't licensable" just chaps my ass....

      More and more, govt seems to be there for NOTHING more than regulating everything, and charging you money for the "privilege".

      With this type of regulation and down neck breathing of govt to the public back in decades past...we'd certainly not have the nice things we do today, and buggy whips would still be the fashion everywhere!!

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    3. Re:Not hoverboards by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not that silly; some people will find them useful and they are a lot easier to ride than the Solowheel, without adding the bulk of a full Segway. With that said, it makes sense to ban them if they explode and cause fire when charging. Over here (NL) they have just been banned, not because of fire hazards, but because they constitute a "motorized transport" and thus do not fit in our century old definition of traffic. Never mind the fact that these things are safer than roller skates. Of course at some point they will be made legal, as soon as the state makes a law to extract their 30 pieces of silver from riders: mandatory lights, license plates, taxes, and insurance.

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    4. Re:Not hoverboards by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Right, the product name "Hovertrax" is in NO WAY misleading, is it?


      Hint: IT. DOESN'T. HOVER!!!

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    5. Re:Not hoverboards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More and more, govt seems to be there for NOTHING more than regulating everything, and charging you money for the "privilege".

      NYC, yes. Most the rest of the US, there's a strong desire to return to the Gilded Age. Except not really. Because people oddly don't like drinking shit and river fires.

      With this type of regulation and down neck breathing of govt to the public back in decades past...we'd certainly not have the nice things we do today, and buggy whips would still be the fashion everywhere!!

      You should really really read history. The fact is, the public generally demands of government that such things exist. There's a reason the first cars were little more than horseless carriages in design, no matter how stupid that was. It's also why there was such a push for speed limits for the longest time ("to not scare the horses").

      Meanwhile, it took over half a century before things like actual safety took center stage. Or fuel economy. Or really any consideration about anything more than the general aesthetics of the damned thing. Which boils down to the market (and regulation) being more in line with public opinion than anything to do with doing things "right", efficiently, or whatever.

      tl;dr - You really should read some more history, take some context on the actual who is regulating (NYC isn't most of America), and actually have some respect for the degree which things aren't regulated but the regulation we do have frequently came about precisely because of how much of a clusterfuck "the free market" runs if left to its own devices. Still, free to complain about NYC specifically in this example. It's just a bad basis for generalization.

    6. Re:Not hoverboards by Jahoda · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I am not surprised that clearly- unbiased source, "reason.com" calls this an example of runaway nanny-state regulation, the fact remains that millions use the sidewalks of NYC every single day, and those people have the right to safety.

      Digging a bit deeper into the question of their legality, we find this article from the NY Daile News

      It appears that these motorized electric scooters - which I've personally only recently become aware of, and until reading this article had no idea they were becoming so popular, essentially fall under a broad "motorized transport" classification.

      I guess that it is easy to paint a picture of "big government wants its pound of flesh" surrounding their registration. However, the interpretation I take is that any tom, dick, or harry can't just go driving a motor-propelled vehicle on the streets and sidewalks of NYC. In fact, the whole topic of this thread is that 15,000 of these things are siezed in the UK for being unsafe. Are the scooters being sold on the streets of NYC coming from a different chinese factory? Is there any less of a problem of bootleg, unsafe goods?

      I'm sorry, but I'f I'm walking down the streets of brooklyn or wherever, I don't want someone slamming into me on their unsafe, unregulated, apparently-on-flames motorized fad-scooter.

      But you're right, government only exists to regulate, regulate, regulate. It's all just rules and red tape, isn't it?

    7. Re:Not hoverboards by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      The problem is not that all of them catch fire, but the cheap ass Chinese knockoffs are catching fire because they don't conform to UK safety standards. (cue the angry libertarian who will point out that it's not the governments business to protect us if we want to burn our own homes down)

    8. Re:Not hoverboards by BancBoy · · Score: 2

      Prior art! Jefferson Airplane

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  3. Re:Why are they even called "hoverboards"?! by present_arms · · Score: 2

    Because they have lights and in the dark they appear to hover :)

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  4. Unsafe unbranded clones prone to combustion by RogueyWon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The BBC article on this subject makes clear that these are cheap, unbranded Chinese and East Asian knock-offs with a documented history demonstrating that they (and specifically their chargers) are a fire risk. That BBC piece really should have been TFA.

    There are some oddities around these "hoverboards", in the UK, though. Specifically, it's illegal to operate one on either a public road or a pavement, meaning that they are legal only for use on private land. Technically, I think, the same is true of Segways.

    1. Re:Unsafe unbranded clones prone to combustion by DrXym · · Score: 2

      These devices also look perfect anyone wishing to increase their chance of suffering severe front or back skull trauma.

    2. Re:Unsafe unbranded clones prone to combustion by JBMcB · · Score: 4, Informative

      They aren't really "Knock-Offs," there really isn't an official manufacturer of "Hoverboards."

      http://www.npr.org/sections/mo...

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  5. Re:cars are unsafe too by RogueyWon · · Score: 2

    If somebody tried to import a shipment of fake Ford cars, which didn't meet safety standards and were prone to catching fire while parked, you can bet that they would be seized and destroyed.

    It's legal to sell these "hoverboards" in the UK, provided they comply with the safety standards for electrical devices. It's not legal to operate one on a public road or pavement, but that wasn't the issue here.

  6. I wish they wouldnt call those things hoverboards by JustNiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they clearly DONT hover.

  7. Re:That's not a reason by RogueyWon · · Score: 2

    No, and plenty of "hoverboards" are legally imported into and sold in the UK without being impounded. Just as plenty of Segways are imported and sold, despite being subject to similar restrictions around use on public roads.

    The problem here is that for a story which has had a fair bit of coverage in the press today, the article selected as TFA is a really bad one and gives very little detail of the case. The hoverboards which were seized were cheap knock-offs, sold for substantially less than the "branded" devices. They don't meet UK electrical safety rules, so they are seized and destroyed. The same would go for any other electrical device that didn't meet those rules.

  8. Re:Hoverboards and universal health care by Malc · · Score: 4, Informative

    What about universal fire fighting service? Which is probably more relevant, since the BBC article references two fires in two weeks in London due to these devices.

    Three fires in London over ten days in October:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/busi...

  9. Annoyance will be outweighed by humor by coldsalmon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hoverboard users running into me on the sidewalk will be balanced by watching them accidentally run into small bumps and fall flat on their stupid faces.

  10. Re:Why are they even called "hoverboards"?! by TWX · · Score: 2

    One person's asshole in marketing is another person's genius in marketing. Given that these things have caught the public's attention and are being perceived as being cool when they function properly, arguably this leans toward the latter.

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  11. Obligatory dirty Hungarian phrasebook reference by GbrDead · · Score: 4, Funny

    My hoverboard is full of eels.

  12. Re:cars are unsafe too by RogueyWon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's legal to buy plenty of things which can be dangerous if used improperly, from cars to parachutes to kitchen knives.

    What we do have, however, are laws on issues such as electrical safety standards. These exist to provide the public with a degree of reassurance that devices which are not being used in a manner which is inherently unsafe - which are, for instance, just charging their batteries from the mains, will not do things like catching fire and burning down their homes.

    I regard that as a good thing. If you want to buy a hoverboard, then go out and buy one which has passed those basic electrical safety checks. Nobody's preventing you from doing that.

    This is about giving people a basic level of confidence that every last electrical device they buy isn't going to put them at significant risk of their house burning down. I'm in favour of that.

  13. NPR's Planet Money on Hoverboard Development by Koreantoast · · Score: 2

    There was actually a very timely Planet Money podcast on how the hoverboards were developed. Apparently the concept was created by a Chinese inventor who quickly lost control of the idea to the Shenzhen wild west where dozens of firms began creating variants of the hoverboard. Given the nature of how the product was introduced, through numerous companies with no clear originating firm, it's no surprise why you have so many quality control issues without a single manufacturer that has a "brand" on these hoverboards they're trying to maintain.

  14. Sorry kids by PPH · · Score: 2

    It's going to be Jarts again for Christmas.

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  15. Re:sympathy for the retailers/manufacturers? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, except these are knockoff devices, with unsafe electrics.

    Some idiot falling off his stupid not-a-Segway isn't what the concern here is. The concern is same idiot plugging it in to charge, and burning down his apartment complex because it's a cheap knockoff that was wired by an incompetent, and has batteries with known failed cells that rupture when bumped around too much... you know, kind of like when an idiot falls off his stupid not-a-Segway.

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  16. Re:Not knockoffs by raburton · · Score: 4, Informative

    UK is the only place I know of where appliances are sold without power cords.

    Really? I live in the UK and regularly buy appliances of various kinds and they have always come with a power cord, so this is news to me. I can just about remember a time when it was standard for devices to come without a plug and you were expected to wire your own on (presumably a hang over from the change in plug types and the fact that older ones were still in common usage for a while), but it's been a requirement for them to come with plugs for probably 20+ years.

  17. Re:Why are they even called "hoverboards"?! by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

    Lot of hot youtubers like them so fans of those hot youtubers will have seen them and like them.

    There are already cool videos of a 7 year old doing skatepark stunts on one.

    The fact you can do 7 to 8 mph on one and well made ones have a 15 mile range is pretty damn impressive.

    A sub 3 hour charging time too.

    I'm 6'5" and I'm 25 pounds over the weight limit (so probably greatly reduced range) or I'd own one yesterday.

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  18. Happy Fun Board by T.E.D. · · Score: 5, Funny
    You can kinda see their concern, if you read the disclaimer on its own marketing material:

    Yes, it's Happy Fun Board! The toy sensation that's sweeping the nation! Only 14.95 at participating stores! Get one today!

    Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly, and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Board.

    Caution: Happy Fun Board may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.

    Happy Fun Board contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.

    Do not use Happy Fun Board on concrete.

    Discontinue use of Happy Fun Board if any of the following occurs:

    • itching
    • vertigo
    • dizziness
    • tingling in extremities
    • loss of balance or coordination
    • slurred speech
    • temporary blindness
    • profuse sweating
    • or heart palpitations
    • If Happy Fun Board begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.

      Happy Fun Board may stick to certain types of skin.

      When not in use, Happy Fun Board should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Board, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company, Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability.

      Ingredients of Happy Fun Board include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.

      Happy Fun Board has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.

      Do not taunt Happy Fun Board.

      Happy Fun Board comes with a lifetime warranty.

      Happy Fun Board! Accept no substitutes!

  19. Re:cars are unsafe too by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    Seizing due to safety concerns alone is way too far down the slippery slope for me to be comfortable with - it effectively means the government can seize anything.

    They're not seizing them from consumers, doofus. They're seizing them at the port of entry. The same way they would seize a shipment of defective propane tanks.

    They're not saying you can't sell a hoverboard. They're saying you can't sell a hoverboard that will blow the fuck up.

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  20. Re:cars are unsafe too by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    Are you a retard? These are electrically unsafe. They are illegal devices that do not conform to the stringent electrical safety laws of the UK. China do not understand how the UK power system operates, many devices fall foul of the most elementary standards. The UK has requirements for AC plugs, from size, fuse (China even makes fake fuses), earth pin configuration based on supply requirements, cable current rating, et al. You wouldn't know this, but cunts like you think you know everything there is to know.

    If you read that with a thick Scottish accent, it's much more entertaining.

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  21. Re:cars are unsafe too by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    We should put DeBeer's out of business, that's for sure.

    Aye man. Den we only drink DeWhiskey.

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