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India Wins Contract To Launch Private Weather Satellites

Posted by samzenpus on from the to-the-stars dept.

schwit1 writes: The first two satellites in the first private weather satellite constellation will be launched on India's PSLV rocket. This project is a win-win for aerospace. Not only will this weather constellation help shift ownership of weather satellites from government to private ownership, the company's decision to use India's PSLV rocket increases the competition in the launch industry. From the article: "With 12 satellites on orbit, PlanetiQ will collect approximately 34,000 'occultations' per day, evenly distributed around the globe with high-density sampling over both land and water. Each occultation is a vertical profile of atmospheric data with very high vertical resolution, comprised of measurements less than every 200 meters from the Earth's surface up into the ionosphere. The data is similar to that collected by weather balloons, but more accurate, more frequent and on a global scale. 'The world today lacks sufficient data to feed into weather models, especially the detailed vertical data that is critical to storm prediction. That's why we see inaccurate or ambiguous forecasts for storms like Hurricane Joaquin, which can put numerous lives at risk and cost businesses millions of dollars due to inadequate preparation or risk management measures,' McCormick said. 'Capturing the detailed vertical structure of the atmosphere from pole to pole, especially over the currently under-sampled oceans, is the missing link to improving forecasts of high-impact weather.'"

34 comments

  1. Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    " help shift ownership of weather satellites from government to private ownership"

    How is that a good thing that needs "help"?

    1. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For one thing, we can fix the data before it is made public to stop the accusations by the client change deniers that the data has is being modified.

    2. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So ... we shift the ownership from a system where the millions of voters can act as oversight to others with ... none?

    3. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Exactly; just what we need private ownership of planetary weather data. Data held hostage by DRM and other stupid schemes. Want some basic data like "is it raining now" - maybe that is free. Want some more sophisticated data? Pay out the wazzoo for it. Who are these dilholes that think private ownership of data and satellites is a good thing? Can we ensure that they are "confused" about where to vote next election?

    4. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by eth1 · · Score: 2

      " help shift ownership of weather satellites from government to private ownership"

      How is that a good thing that needs "help"?

      Yeah... for all the things the US govt. sucks at, I don't think most people realize just how much they use and depend on the ubiquitous, free data generated by NOAA and NWS.

      But, since accurate weather data is essential to any kind of military operation, don't expect the government to stop any time soon, whatever the private sector does.

    5. Re: Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The raw data needs to be censored. Too many wrong conclusions can be made from it.

    6. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

      This is India, where a gold plated version of a cheap product is made available to people who don't want to be seen using anything their maid can afford.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    7. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The government is a corporation in which each citizen owns one share and the charter prevents sale of shares. All other corporations are just less democratic versions of this.

    8. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      But, since accurate weather data is essential to any kind of military operation, don't expect the government to stop any time soon, whatever the private sector does.

      Yep! We're not going to get less data because of this, we're going to get more. People are complaining that data that wasn't even being collected before will be in private hands. The mind reels.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    9. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, I guess a moderator doesn't believe the post. Exclusivity is big business.

    10. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just insane enough to be from the actual Roman_Noodles.

      In case you're the actual psychiatric edge case known as roman_mir, can you name any time in history that private ownership of everything resulted in anything desirable for everyone?

    11. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Well, to be fair, I don't think we've ever had such a situation where the "everything" was owned by a private entity. I somehow don't think that will ever happen. This isn't a statement of anything more than it says. It just hasn't ever happened, ever, as far as I know.

      Well, I guess you could postulate that there's a $deity who owns everything, including thoughts? I'd also postulate that nothing, ever, has resulted in "anything desirable for everyone." Not even the end of slavery was desirable for everyone, to find an extreme example. Hell, not even eradicating polio was desirable for everyone or so I presume. I'm sure some nitwit was rather displeased with it - they probably sold leg braces.

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    12. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that frequently what happens (at least in the UK) is that the government decides it would be a "cost-saving" (aka back-handing) exercise to contract out to the private company which is now doing it, and which suddenly becomes too big to fail.

    13. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Except that frequently what happens (at least in the UK) is that the government decides it would be a "cost-saving" (aka back-handing) exercise to contract out to the private company which is now doing it, and which suddenly becomes too big to fail.

      If something is militarily necessary, the USA is always willing to spend more money on it. Reliable weather data is critical for military activity. The same is true of global positioning. The USA isn't going to switch away from its home grown GPS just because there's two competitors now.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    14. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, to be fair, I don't think we've ever had such a situation where the "everything" was owned by a private entity.

      Slavery?

    15. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that's not everything. For example, I can't remember the moon being legitimately owned. Or, if you want, there are much closer things that have probably never fully been in the hands of either government or a private business. An iceberg comes to mind, I think those are free for the taking. My thoughts, I kind of hope those are mine. That sort of thing.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    16. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rick Santorum thought that this was a great idea. And I'm sure that the fact that his district was home to Accuweather was only a co-incidence.

      He also had the idea that weather services should be something that were only "turned on" when a hurricane was coming or something like that.

    17. Re:Um, suck that cock more, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well all the big brands who use the pyramid marketing to make their brand look expensive and rare are very successful in the west.. So this mindset is actually very western..

  2. Surge Pricing by fhage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will we have to pay 100 times standard rates for the data in the few days before the hurricane hits?

    1. Re:Surge Pricing by zenlessyank · · Score: 2

      Pretty sure we have a back door installed. That's how we roll, dawg.

    2. Re:Surge Pricing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, yes. You see, when there is normal weather, the CPU cycles used for computational prediction are normal, however, once a hurricane path needs to be calculated, suddenly you use more data and deeper model calculations to get a better prediction (of the widening cone where it is going to pass through). And this prediction is useful. So, probably.

  3. Convienent by wbr1 · · Score: 1
    How nice it will be when entrenched interests can hide weather and climate data from the government and individual researchers. Oh, you want data on x for the last 5 years for an AGW study, pay extra and get doctored data.

    No sir, I don't like it,

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    Silence is a state of mime.
    1. Re:Convienent by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      How nice it will be when entrenched interests can hide weather and climate data from the government and individual researchers.

      Putting the tools in private hands makes them neither more nor less likely to be used in this way.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:Convienent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the private industry can, and will, be bought.

    3. Re:Convienent by Maclir · · Score: 2

      Putting the tools in private hands makes them neither more nor less likely to be used in this way.

      And what planet is it that you are living on?

    4. Re:Convienent by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Actually, the private industry can, and will, be bought.

      Actually, the government can, and will, be bought. 20 goto 10.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    5. Re:Convienent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the private industry can, and will, be bought.

      Actually, the government can, and will, be bought. 20 goto 10.

      Go fuck yourself.

    6. Re:Convienent by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Go fuck yourself.

      Thanks for conceding the argument, coward. I already knew I won that round, but you really drove the point home. It's a good feeling first thing in the morning.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  4. If the software will be written by Indians... by Viol8 · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... I won't rate its chances for long term success as very high. If my experiences with their coding abilities are anything to go by it'll just about get into orbit then immediately flip 180 degs and try and photograph the weather on the moon, start relaying Z-TV to Mars and then 2 weeks later will completely fail for unknown reasons and will need a complete rewrite. Or in this case relaunch.

  5. Riiiiight by baker_tony · · Score: 1

    "India Wins Contract To Launch Private Weather Satellites"
    What could possibly go wrong.

    1. Re:Riiiiight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well the Indian PSLV has had 29 consecutive successful launches and costs way cheaper than launches by any other country..
      So I would bet that nothing would go wrong...

  6. occultation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF is with your stupid words

  7. Perhaps they will outsource it by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    ... I won't rate its chances for long term success as very high. If my experiences with their coding abilities are anything to go by it'll just about get into orbit then immediately flip 180 degs and try and photograph the weather on the moon,

    Perhaps they will outsource it to NASA... which will make a unit conversion error and turn it into a ballistic projectile and actually crash it into the moon.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"