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Theremin's Bug Let Soviets Spy On USA For More Than 7 Years (hackaday.com)

szczys writes: Theremin, yes the same Theremin who built the instrument that made the Star Trek theme song famous, had a hand in espionage as well. Albeit not a willing one. Turns out his life is actually quite tragic. In addition to that story, Adam Fabio takes a trip through the details of "The Thing", a bug installed in the US Embassy by the Soviet Union during the cold war. It used no batteries, instead depending on a carrier frequency transmitted by the "listener", causing the resonant cavity to transmit back the audio from the room at a higher frequency. Pretty nifty, and so was the hiding place: a hand-carved wooden seal of the United States. Beware Greeks Bearing Gifts, right?

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  1. Star Trek not so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Apart from a few episodes where an electronic organ or synthesizer was used, the theremin-like sound on the original Star Trek theme was actually provided by renowned studio soprano Loulie Jean Norman until her voice was removed in later seasons.

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    A Doctor Who reference would have been nice.

    1. Re:Star Trek not so much by szczys · · Score: 1

      I never got into Who. Is it too late? And if not, where in that mammoth string of series' would one start?

    2. Re:Star Trek not so much by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why, anywhere you choose ... it's a show about a time traveler, you don't need to see it in order. ;-)

      Though, you'll probably find starting with the modern reboot with Christopher Eccleston is probably most available. Since it was a reboot it had to establish some of the things for a fresh audience.

      But for some of us, Tom Baker is the nostalgic Doctor because it's the one we saw first and who we think of as the most iconic Doctor. But I think that largely depends on just how long you've been watching it.

      It's never too late to binge watch a TV show if you're interested in it.

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    3. Re:Star Trek not so much by Vokkyt · · Score: 2

      Depends on what you're looking for. The original run was, well, classic brit sci-fi. The 2009 reboot with Eccleston is a bit more palatable to modern tastes while retaining a lot of the cheesiness that makes Who worthwhile.

      Personally, I'd start with the reboot - you can follow along without needing the history of the preceding seasons. I started with the 2009 reboot and it was enjoyable enough. Plus it's on most streaming services.

    4. Re:Star Trek not so much by blazer1024 · · Score: 1

      Well, you can't really start at the beginning, because much of it is missing... but I'd recommend starting at the beginning of the 2005 series. I was a fan as far back as the early 80's, but my wife started watching the new series and she liked it right away... so I'd say watch the new series, and you can watch the old one as you like to fill in some of the back story.

      There are occasional references to the original series in the new one, but they aren't really required viewing.

    5. Re:Star Trek not so much by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      The 2009 reboot...

      2005. Timey-wimey...

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    6. Re:Star Trek not so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 2009 reboot with Eccleston...

      Ah, you're suffering from a time-travel malady. The new series was started four years earlier than you think

    7. Re:Star Trek not so much by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      It's never too late to binge watch a TV show if you're interested in it.

      Sadly, it is too late to binge-watch every episode of classic Doctor Who.

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    8. Re:Star Trek not so much by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      I'd agree with this the really classic stuff is very dated looking. Start with Eccelston (1 season only), then Tennant (my personal favorite), and if you're still into it, follow along with Matt Smith. I am not liking Capaldi or the new writing though, it just tries too hard to be deep and avant garde anymore.

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    9. Re:Star Trek not so much by gameboyhippo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Start at the new Doctor Who in Season 5 episode 1. Watch until "Day of the Doctor". Then go back to Season 1 episode 1. Finish off the rest of new Who. Then go back and watch the classic Who (at least what exists).

      Why Season 5 Episode 1? Because there are some huge spoilers in earlier seasons. (It's a time travel show). It also makes a certain episode in Season 4 a lot more tragic.

      As for classic who, my advice for watching it is to view it like a play rather than like a modern show.

    10. Re:Star Trek not so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally enjoy the old, dated stories more. I got tired of the newer seasons midway through Tennant's run and have yet to see a single Matt Smith or Capaldi episode. One of the things I like more about the old ones is that typically the story was contained within 4 episodes, season long arcs were a rarity and you can jump in anywhere without needing to know about things that happen a dozen episodes previously.

    11. Re:Star Trek not so much by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

      Now they've got story arcs spanning different Doctors, pretty much (like the 'impossible girl' Clara Oswald arc)

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    12. Re:Star Trek not so much by erikkemperman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am not liking Capaldi or the new writing though, it just tries too hard to be deep and avant garde anymore.

      Have to disagree about Capaldi. Tennant got the right balance of dark and light, but I thought Smith was just all fluff, so I like that Capaldi's Doctor is rougher, grizzly even. But then I was a huge fan of The Thick of It.

      The writing, yeah I miss Russell T. Davies. Moffat is clearly a talented writer (I love what he did with Sherlock) but the best episodes of the Who reboot, for me, are basically all Russell. And Torchwood doesn't look like coming back either, I'd probably rate seasons 3 and 4 over all of Who.

      Shame Neil Gaiman didn't do more.

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    13. Re:Star Trek not so much by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Dr. Who
      1. British not American
      2. They used the original sound track with tape dubbing. A double bass pluck and a sine wave which was than spliced and plaid back at different speeds.

      By the time of the 5th doctor they switched to an electronic synthesizer. Then to a full orchestra.

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    14. Re:Star Trek not so much by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      There are many schools of thought on this seemingly simple question.

      1. Start from the beginning: Doctor 1 This will show his growth and change of character over time... However these episodes weren't made for binge watching, You watch an episode and watch the next on a day later, otherwise you get board to tears.

      2. Start with Doctor 4: He was the doctor for the longest time and really defined what is the Doctor

      3. Start with Doctor 3: That is where it switched to color as well Doctor 3 was more action oriented than the previous two. Also with more earthly contacts to get more concrete view on what is going on

      4. Start with Doctor 9: This is the season reboot a new story plot, with updated effects and acting sensibilities.

      I actually went with 4 myself, this was so I can get involved in the universe without feeling like I missed too much. Then I went back to 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 then 1 and 2

      8th doctor was in a made for tv movie, so watch it when you get the chance, but it is outside of the rest.

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    15. Re:Star Trek not so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could start in 1963. I actually did this about two years ago to fill in the considerable gaps left by my PBS watching of the show as a youth.

      A few points of warning:
        - if you're not and have never been into older British television, do yourself a favor and take a pass.
        - shows of that age move really really slow compared to now, so if modern designed-for-attention-starved-idiot television is your thing, again this won't be for you
        - the BBC did an "archive purge" in 1973. They literally threw out a bunch of irreplaceable masters of a whole bunch of their TV programs, because somebody thought it would be a good way to save some money if they freed up storage space. A side effect of this is that a few older Doctor Who episodes were lost, which leaves a some rather large gaps. There are various fan created "reconstructions" of most of these episodes, but they can be hard to watch.

      Still, it's definitely worth a go if you're not bothered by the above.

      I'm not sure how available the shows are. Personally, I torrented everything. I believe pretty much every season has been released on DVD (and in HD in the case of the modern version) as well.

    16. Re:Star Trek not so much by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1
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    17. Re:Star Trek not so much by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "Why, anywhere you choose ... it's a show about a time traveler, you don't need to see it in order. ;-)"

      Which would certainly be true if there were actual Timelords and they could actually be bothered to write a TV series for the likes of us, but in reality the series was created by people who are restrained by the annoying limitations of humans, such that the writers couldn't possibly remove the time element because it is imposed pre-ex-post-facto. ;-) IOTW, When they wrote the first series, they couldn't possible incorporate events from the later episodes, and there is a guarantee that there will be many more backwards references, time-wise than forward ones, as the latter are limited to those that were designed into the plot ahead of time.

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    18. Re:Star Trek not so much by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Sadly, it is too late to binge-watch every episode of classic Doctor Who.

      You seem to have mistaken "sadly" for a synonym of gloriously .

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    19. Re:Star Trek not so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > 1. British not American
      > 2. ... spliced and plaid back ...

      So, Scottish, not British?

    20. Re:Star Trek not so much by Cassini2 · · Score: 1

      The first few episodes of Doctor Who were so bad they almost got the series cancelled. Don't start a new Doctor Who fan watching anything before the first Dalek series on Skaro. That series was what made Doctor Who the second biggest British TV franchise ever.

      For a modern audience, I would recommend starting at the reboot with the new series and Russell T Davies and Christopher Ecceleston. That was the point at which Doctor Who became interesting again for a new generation.

    21. Re:Star Trek not so much by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      such that the writers couldn't possibly remove the time element because it is imposed pre-ex-post-facto. ;-)

      Wow ... you live in a state with legalized marijuana, don't you?

      Yes, no actual timelords ... we got it, thanks. ;-)

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    22. Re:Star Trek not so much by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Marijuana doesn't know if it is legal.

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    23. Re:Star Trek not so much by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Marijuana doesn't know if it is legal.

      Woah...deep man, deep.

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    24. Re:Star Trek not so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually out of 154 series nineteen have not been released by the BBC in some form. Technically some of the released stories have missing episodes, which have been replaced on the released DVDs by animated versions. Audio of all classic Doctor Who exists and audio of some of the missing shows have been released (particularly the very coveted Marco Polo adventure of the First Doctor.) Most of the nineteen unreleased series have multiple episodes missing.
      I have all of the material BBC has released with the exception of the reboot series 8, which is Capaldi's first season. I agree with the above poster. It is the weakest of the reboot series. Capaldi is a great Doctor who is being severely uncut by generally poor supervision of the show. Not just the writing, but many times the overarching plotting of the series. Many people have criticized Jenna Coleman's Clara Oswald. I have found the chemistry between Capaldi and Colemen very good, and lay the blame for any problems with Coleman's character to the constraints of Moffat's vision of the series.
      In many ways it reflects the problems that developed in the original series when Sylvester McCoy was the Doctor. Original producer Verity Lambert criticized the show production staff at that time for basically talking down to the audience, "Nobody's really believing what they're doing here. They just think it's all rather funny and they're rather smart and clever."
      Moffat has used his platform to ridicule religion, belief in the afterlife and humanity in general and the military in particular. The Kate Stewart character, who garnered a lot of emotional Karma via her supposed relationship with the very popular character from the classic series Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart, has been particularly ill used and ill treated. Moffat obviously has a very low opinion of the military and security services in general.
      Now all of those beliefs are valid for an individual to hold. I on the other hand don't tune into an escapist time travel sci-fi adventure show to be preached at by a secular humanists.

    25. Re:Star Trek not so much by doccus · · Score: 1

      There's 'another* doctor instead of Tom Baker? In fact, the humorless approach so favored as of late really does the whole show quite a disservice. And Tom knew it

    26. Re:Star Trek not so much by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      prove it

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    27. Re:Star Trek not so much by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      I like Capaldi a lot but the stories are not quite right for him and frankly Moffat's writing and production capabilities have long ago run their course. That and an apparent push to further pander to an international audience has diluted Dr. Who - in my opinion. Not sure what the remedy is, but better writing would be a great start. Capaldi's talent was wasted on these past two seasons. I have seen every episode there is to see (I think) so I think my opinion counts for something. I quickly tired of Sherlock and have to disagree on that point. I see Moffat as the primary problem.

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    28. Re:Star Trek not so much by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      It's not just that they threw away tapes. They also routinely recorded over tapes due to constant budget problems. A real shame.

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    29. Re:Star Trek not so much by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      Full orchestra? Are you sure about that?

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    30. Re:Star Trek not so much by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      Composed by Ron Grainer and arranged, performed and recorded by Delia Derbyshire at the BBC radiophonic workshop. Grainer reportedly didn't recognize it as his own composition as at the time the typical arrangement would have been for a standard orchestra.

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    31. Re:Star Trek not so much by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Why?

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    32. Re:Star Trek not so much by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      Because science!

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  2. oblig. FTFY by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Beware Geeks Bearing Gifts

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    1. Re: oblig. FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could we have a car analogy, please?

    2. Re:oblig. FTFY by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      It was the local boy-scouts who "presented" it to them.

      But in general they should have X-rayed it before mounting it. I suppose that may be difficult to pull off in the Soviet Union. An alternative is to photograph it, send the photos to expert carvers, and make and mount a duplicate.

      Maybe "accidentally" drop the original so that if you are caught throwing it away, you have an alibi: "we accidentally dropped it, and made a duplicate because we didn't want to offend the boy-scouts."

  3. Theremin by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Informative

    This, my friends, is the geekiest thing you will see today. Trekkie plays Star Trek theme on Theremin.

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    1. Re:Theremin by mccrew · · Score: 1

      Wish I had some up-mod points for you today.

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    2. Re:Theremin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More interesting is using csound to do the star trek singing.

      http://csound.openright.org/

  4. Star Trek theme not a theremin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Wikipedia : "Apart from a few episodes where an electronic organ or synthesizer was used, the theremin-like sound on the original Star Trek theme was actually provided by renowned studio soprano Loulie Jean Norman until her voice was removed in later seasons.[44] Soprano Elin Carlson sang part of the theme when CBS-Paramount TV remastered the program's title sequence in 2006.[45]"

    1. Re:Star Trek theme not a theremin by KGIII · · Score: 1

      More importantly, the use of the bug is hardly news. Hell, I remember when it *was* news.

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    2. Re:Star Trek theme not a theremin by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It currently hangs in the National Cryptologic Museum with a placard talking about its history after all..

      https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryp...

      Unless this is a different bugged wooden seal...

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    3. Re:Star Trek theme not a theremin by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Nope, that'd be the one. Well, except I thought it was a bit later than that. That says it was found in 1952. It turns out, it wasn't even news when I heard about it as a child. :/ (Probably 10-15 years later, mid to late 1960s.)

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  5. Dark Matters by Anrego · · Score: 2

    There was a show called Dark Matters that did a segment on this. The show itself had shitty production values, sometimes went a bit heavy with sensationalism, and the facts were a bit dubious... but some of the segments were decent, and the Theremin one was one of them.

    1. Re:Dark Matters by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

      I remember that show, it had the doctor from Fringe (cringe) but it was a fun throw away show, dubious is one way to put it. But that's exactly what sprang to mind when i read the summary, they did an episode on that bug, pretty neat considering.

  6. What's with all the Hackaday lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, it seems like almost every post on Hackaday gets submitted here.
    I shouldn't complain though, at least that Hasleton drivel has stopped appearing on /.

    1. Re:What's with all the Hackaday lately? by szczys · · Score: 1

      We publish about 10 posts a day on Hackaday so it's certainly not every post. But I've long been a Slashdot reader, so when we have a great piece of content that I think fits here I try to submit it.

    2. Re:What's with all the Hackaday lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christ, don't say his name three times.

  7. Kipnapped by Stalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He was kidnapped out of NYC by Stalin's operatives to help in the war effort (WWII). Unbelievable.

    1. Re:Kipnapped by Stalin by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least he wasn't forced to make monster movies about the evils of unchecked Capitalism.

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    2. Re:Kipnapped by Stalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was there a westerner who was? Wow, do tell.

      Theremin was kidnapped by Stalin, but he eventually got back to the USA in the 60's as an old man I think. It is a tragic story, but one of many from Stalin's reign of terror.

    3. Re:Kipnapped by Stalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is not correct.

      He had racked up formidable debts and unpaid taxes. In late 1938 he fled the U.S. by ship back to the U.S.S.R. When he landed, he was sent to a Siberian labor camp. Walter and Lucie Rosen were Theremin's last patrons in the U.S. putting him up in one of their row of townhouses on 54th street for a few years while teaching Lucie theremin technique. The last theremin instrument built by Theremin before this flight is Lucie's "September Theremin" that is at Caramoor, the Rosen's former upstate NY estate.
            http://www.caramoor.org/about/history/#theramin

    4. Re:Kipnapped by Stalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They really should fix the typo in the URL.

    5. Re:Kipnapped by Stalin by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      He was kidnapped out of NYC by Stalin's operatives to help in the war effort (WWII). Unbelievable.

      Who, Bennet Haselton?

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    6. Re:Kipnapped by Stalin by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      Probably to cause despair amongst the developer class

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  8. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saw this in a museum. Was pretty interesting, though the beak was broken on the seal.

    1. Re:Interesting by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      Hey! What's this? Seals don't have beaks. Are you thinking of squid perhaps?

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  9. Re:Star Trek Theremin by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    Yeah. I thought the only reason it was "made famous" was because Sheldon played it on The Big Bang Theory....

  10. News for nerds? Really? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    It's like the old joke of the Soviet hell...

    Seriously, what we get is either not news or not for nerds. This may be for nerds, but news? That story is like half a century old, that's even old by /. standards!

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    1. Re:News for nerds? Really? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      That story is like half a century old, that's even old by /. standards!

      So will we not get the dupe for another half a century?

  11. Re:Star Trek Theremin by operagost · · Score: 1

    Indeed. I don't recall hearing a Theremin in either version of the theme.

    However, a Theremin IS used in the Beach Boys song "Good Vibrations". That is probably the most famous use. Way before "Big Bang Theory".

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  12. Re:Star Trek Theremin by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Theremins were geek-popular long before the Internet existed - let alone recent, forgettable television series...

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  13. Get Hulu by CQDX · · Score: 2

    They have 400+ episodes of the early Doctors before Eccleston. If you didn't grow up on low budget British television it might be hard to watch at first but if you stick with it you get an appreciation for the different personalities of the Doctors.

  14. Re: Star Trek Theremin by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 1

    Yea, Cello was only "made famous" because Leonard played it on the Big Bang Theory too...

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  15. The "bug" had really bad reception by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    as the audio had this piercing whine that rose and fell in pitch all the time (weeeeeeoooooooeeeeeeeooooooooo!).

  16. Engineer should have written the article by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I cringed at the sentence "Receive tuning (if it can be called such) was achieved by the precisely cut antenna." which is actually how EVERY radio is tuned; the antenna is a component of the resonant circuit which forms the receiver.

    I've read about the bugged seal for years, when I was a kid it was used as an example how how nasty Soviets could never be trusted. It's an interesting story - but honestly, the story of the US embassy built in Moscow in the early 1980s is much more interesting. I knew two people involved with the analysis of the building and it's a fascinating case of hubris. The US felt that they could detect any passive resonant cavity devices using the same techniques they used for "The Thing" and, more importantly, for active radios, they could detect them by a non-linear junction detector (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinear_junction_detector) which finds the P-N junctions of diodes and transistors.

    The Soviets, knowing this, simply dumped a bunch of diodes in the concrete used for the building meaning that everywhere in the building, the diodes would be found and could not be distinguished from any other electronic devices in the building making the search for bugging devices impossible.

    My friends spent several months chipping at the concrete walls of the embassy and never found any listening devices, just diodes which were labouriously separated from the concrete. It's interesting to see articles of the day (http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/15/world/the-bugged-embassy-case-what-went-wrong.html?pagewanted=all & http://articles.latimes.com/19...) claiming that listening devices were found in the building but what I was told was that there were a few pieces of rebar which were not properly installed and about $500 worth of diodes mixed into the concrete. The claims of listening devices are most likely exaggerated to lessen the embarrassment that the Soviets had pulled over such a big coup over on the US for what amounts to petty cash.

    1. Re:Engineer should have written the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This makes no sense; why wouldn't the U.S. simply insist on constructing its own embassy using its own imported workers?

    2. Re:Engineer should have written the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they tried and the russians said "no."

    3. Re:Engineer should have written the article by mikael · · Score: 1

      Everyone is doing this is everyone else; USA bugs aircraft bought by Chinese:

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

      http://www.airforcemag.com/Mag...

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    4. Re:Engineer should have written the article by plover · · Score: 2

      George Bush (the elder) had the embassy building's top floors removed and rebuilt by American workers using Minnesota-sourced stone. Transmitters located in a nearby church, dubbed 'Our Lady of Telemetry', keep the embassy bathed in radio signals. Doesn't matter if there are or were actual listening devices or just a bunch of PN junctions, they were primarily thumbing their noses at the Americans.

      It also doesn't help any that the top floors are also filled with NSA transmitters and receivers. The spying and attempted spying remains a two-way street.

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    5. Re:Engineer should have written the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and building materials.. seriously think anyone is going to import sand to make sure its not been contaminated with electronic decoys?

    6. Re:Engineer should have written the article by Asmodae · · Score: 1

      I cringed at the sentence "Receive tuning (if it can be called such) was achieved by the precisely cut antenna." which is actually how EVERY radio is tuned; the antenna is a component of the resonant circuit which forms the receiver.

      Uhm, sorta but not really. The antenna is certainly a component of the system but it doesn't tune anything. Antennas frequently have a bandwidth much higher than necessary so a radio can receive/transmit multiple frequencies (sometimes at the same time). Radios (even simple ones) have post antenna tuning circuitry to tune-in the frequency of interest. Otherwise your car antenna (or TV antenna) couldn't receive multiple stations. Or your cell phone and/or RC transmitter couldn't frequency hop. Frequency hopping radios are a thing, and only have one antenna to do it with.

    7. Re: Engineer should have written the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I cringed at the sentence "Receive tuning (if it can be called such) was achieved by the precisely cut antenna." which is actually how EVERY radio is tuned; the antenna is a component of the resonant circuit which forms the receiver."

      Except for the antennas tuned by switching them to different inductors?

  17. no "In Soviet Russia" comments? by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    sorry I have no imagination so I can't create one.

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    1. Re:no "In Soviet Russia" comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In soviet Russia, the bug seals you? The seal bugs you? The Theremin bugs you?

    2. Re:no "In Soviet Russia" comments? by k3vlar · · Score: 3, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, Theremin plays you!

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    3. Re:no "In Soviet Russia" comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I only had mod points. Well done, sir.

    4. Re:no "In Soviet Russia" comments? by fabioalcor · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, the musician listen to you!

    5. Re:no "In Soviet Russia" comments? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, seals seal you.

    6. Re:no "In Soviet Russia" comments? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      You mean, "well played, sir"

  18. stupid subject no one reads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not a Theramin on the Star Trek theme. It's a woman singing and a trumpet.

  19. Star Trek theme? by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

    Though you can play Star Trek on a theremin, the original Trek theme was a fairly traditional orchestral score.

    1. Re:Star Trek theme? by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

      Maybe editor is thinking of Day the Earth Stood Still which has theremin...

    2. Re:Star Trek theme? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Despite Sheldon's citation (Big Bang Theory), in season two and three, the melody line that sounds kinda like a theremin is a woman's voice.
      The mighty Wikipedia has the straight scoop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theme_from_Star_Trek .

  20. Why didn't they use a Faraday's cage? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    If they had enclosed the whole room inside a Faraday's cage, the carrier beam from outside would not have penetrated the room to illuminate the "thing". Its echo, even fainter would not have escaped out either. And it is not all the difficult to create a cage. Wall paper with thin wires pasted on the walls, ceiling and under the carpet would cover it. If there are windows, the curtains, sheers and/or drapery could have woven into the fabric these wires.

    Or did they? Is it possible they had been trolling the Soviets for 7 years to discuss phony "top secret" things in such rooms that are not covered with Faraday's cage wall paper?

    Or have I been reading too many Irwin Wallace, Len Deighton, Frederick Forsyth, Jack Higgins and am giving too much credit to the bureaucrats working on Government pay-scale GS-11 counting days till retirement?

    Or am I so showing my age with this list of authors which makes the slashdot reading whippersnappers go "Irwin who? What Forsyth?"

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    1. Re:Why didn't they use a Faraday's cage? by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      Or have I been reading too many Irwin Wallace, Len Deighton, Frederick Forsyth, Jack Higgins and am giving too much credit to the bureaucrats working on Government pay-scale GS-11 counting days till retirement?

      Or am I so showing my age with this list of authors which makes the slashdot reading whippersnappers go "Irwin who? What Forsyth?"

      Yes and yes.

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    2. Re:Why didn't they use a Faraday's cage? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re "Is it possible they had been trolling the Soviets for 7 years to discuss phony "top secret" things in such rooms that are not covered with Faraday's cage wall paper?"
      The US has such confidence in its bug sweeps that it felt physical room security and an understanding of existing advanced electronics was enough, ie the room was comfy, fancy, tested, warm, papers at hand, secure and the room found to be "safe". Why walk all the way down to the vault for every talk?
      The other aspect was US telephone discipline expected the room to be a bit more safe, so staff would talk a bit more face to face in the room. Prestige vs the depths of the vault :)
      Most govs find out they are leaking info when their best spies start feeding junk, get found or replaced or promoted to less interesting positions or cannot warn about something they should have been able to share.

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    3. Re:Why didn't they use a Faraday's cage? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      That was my point. It is relatively easy to put a Faraday's cage on a comfortable, airy, sunny room. Wire woven wall papers, draperies and carpets would the trick. Why wouldn't or didn't they do it?

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    4. Re:Why didn't they use a Faraday's cage? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      It was the room with the Great Seal of the United States, on display for anyone with a good reason to be invited in to see, public relations pretty, a nation on show.
      Fine wire mesh over the door, walls, under the floor might work but its not as secure or useful as a real, designed isolated vault.
      Most nations tried to build their secure vaults up off the floor, isolated from everything. A room within a room.
      It was an everyday office that projected an image of the wealth, skill and power USA into another nation, but conversations leaked.
      The reason why: the US thought it was smarter than every other nation, the room had to be functional, normal looking. Russia was smart and only activated the device eg when the room was in use eg a telegram was been dictated. By luck or during the active bug sweeping the new devices got found or the US/UK was told and had a good cover story... about staff hearing conversations on test equipment.

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    5. Re: Why didn't they use a Faraday's cage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reading what's that? You must be old!

  21. Re:Star Trek Theremin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It was not a true theremin used on the Beach Boy's song, but an Electro-Theremin, which is in fact a different device, even if the sound is similar. The Electro-Theremin uses knobs, slide potential controls, etc. It is not played "in space" like the Theremin is.

  22. Minor correction by laing · · Score: 2
    Good article. However, there is one minor error: "A replica of the great seal is on display at the NSA National Cryptologic Museum."

    The replica is at the International Spy Museum in Washington D.C. and the original is at the NSA Cryptological Museum.

    I have seen them both and the replica is a very poor copy of the original wood carving.

  23. Re:Star Trek Theremin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Indeed. I don't recall hearing a Theremin in either version of the theme.

    However, a Theremin IS used in the Beach Boys song "Good Vibrations". That is probably the most famous use. Way before "Big Bang Theory".

    No Theremin in the Star Trek theme. Used in "Forbidden Planet", I believe.

    Oddly enough, it was used in the "Midsomer Murders" theme for the early seasons. Not exactly the place you'd expect to hear an instrument whose primary applications have been in sci-fi and spooky mysteries.

  24. Such a waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the various intelligence agencies focused their talents on the betterment of humanity instead of trying to figure out the best way to spy on and kill each other, we could have all of the world's problems solved by now.

  25. Re: Star Trek Theremin by KenHansen · · Score: 1

    Bob Moog started his electronic instrument business offering Theremin kits to hobbyists, IIRC.

  26. Re:Star Trek Theremin by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    Indeed. I don't recall hearing a Theremin in either version of the theme.

    However, a Theremin IS used in the Beach Boys song "Good Vibrations". That is probably the most famous use. Way before "Big Bang Theory".

    I'd have said the most famous use was in "The Day The Earth Stood Still" fom the 1950s.

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  27. Re:Star Trek Theremin by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

    "I'd have said the most famous use was in "The Day The Earth Stood Still" fom the 1950s."

    The sound of a theremin pretty much _defines_ 1950s B-grade scifi.

    And I'd regard Forbidden Planet as more famous. :)

  28. Incidental contacts by Keith+Henson · · Score: 1

    I met Theremin about a year before he died. It was at Stanford, at an electronic music celebration for him. Just about all of the big names in electronic music were there. I went because my wife is a big fan of radical music.

    Many years before that, my father had Theremin's spy gadget in his office in the Pentagon when he was chief of the scientific section of G2. It was dead simple, a resonate cavity with a diaphragm to pick up sound and modulate the outgoing signal.

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